Jex

Demonstrably false but then you never listen or lean Dg since it's been pointed out to you mulitple times in the past. So it's easier to track a person in 1pp is it? It's easier to see over walls in 1pp is it? it's easier to plan you're route in 1pp is it? Combat is easier in 1pp is it? It's funny because all these things become harder for me once I don't have a camera floating above my head. Your shitty hearsay evidence wasn't worth writing down since you only need to think about it to work it out.

You can't see the difference between the two? I think you're being disingenuous - only an idiot could fail to notice the difference between the two and I'm amazed you even said it - I'm sure it's not what you meant. So you play on night servers where you can't be seen anyway and hardly have anybody on them. Most people play on more populated servers where they can be spotted and of course they give a shit if they're going to lose the game because they got killed unfairly.

LOL whaaaa??? You said... There, it wouldn't make much difference meaning there is a difference. Did you read what YOU wrote? ;) No the guy exposing just a bit of his body is still exposing himself AND he has to get to that position. Let's look at your example for a minute in detail. Your guy is moving behind cover to get a shot on a guy he saw. He moves to a position and brings his gun up to aim and BLAM! Get's shot in the head by a dude he didn't see. In 3rd person, he could have stayed in his camp spot waiting for the right moment to run out and shoot his victim right? In 1st person he is forced to move to keep eyes on his target but because he has no 3rd person view, he can't make sure he is safe. He can't cam around from above, he looks through his eyes. This makes it MUCH more dangerous for him because now he is exposing himself 100 times more because of his restricted view and now he has tension, he suddenly finds it much harder to stalk his prey - he doesn't just get to sit behind a wall and run out whislt the other guys back is turned or wait for him to loot gear. 1pp brings you down the ground level where you have to look around and be careful about your movements. You check roof tops and you move in ways that limit exposure from possible threat areas. You know if you can see them, they can see you and you also know to get a really good view of something you need to expose yourself - you can't lay prone and cam around you physically have to put yourself into danger. 3pp is easy - you don't feel any rush when ur so safely hidden. You're in no danger you just move your camera - you're not even moving your avatar, just a view point. You get what I'm saying but maybe you didn't really think about it enough to appreciate the difference between the two game modes. In closing watch this vid, the first 3 mins should be enough (the rest is boring, it's just him moving around but you won't believe your eyes when you see the shit that goes down here

If you think you have an argument go for it and I'll smash it to pieces. Let's see what you have.....

I like walking around the map so I'm hardly ever on the coast but will make stops at all the militry loot places just for the excitement of getting into trouble. Then I have a nice break from the adrenaline as I make my way to the next point on the map (usually with a mate or two) and enjoy the scenery along the way.

Oh so you admit it makes a difference then don't you - and that difference is HUGE. You can try and brush it off all you like but using third person view whilst laying on a roof is HUGELY different from you having to phyiscally look over it (and skyline yourself which is a huge giveaway anyway).

Nope and this has already been proven by dsylexci on youtube. It hardly affects your FOV at all.

Time to dispel this nonsense again. I'm on top of a roof and you're walking down the road. I'll let you work out which one has the advantage over both modes.

The reason why 3rd person gets everyone so passionate is because of the nature of the game of dayz. You spend a considerable amount of time looking for gear, especially if you're playing the game properly (as in not server hopping to gear up quick). To then get shot in the back by someone you never had a chance to see is bad enough but in dayz it's worse because of the investment you put into it. Why should some prick get your gear because they used easy mode to kill you? That's what the problem is.

It doesn't increase your FOV at all. If you want a wider FOV then adjust your FOV slider that's what it's there for.

given the fact that this is already out there, requires less coding and calculating to implement I have no problems with how it functions right now. The point of contention is seeing other players and zeds - I don't really care if people can see terrain so much and if I ran up the street, or I've been to a place enough times, I'll know what it looks like anyway. Right now I can think of how Cherno looks and where the road layouts are and I'm not even playing the game.

I've yet to have a single issue with zeds and can now take them out in a few hits (before it was taking me 10). I don't understand how people are dying to them - I barely even get hit by them and the other day I fisted 3 to death at the same time!

I could strip my rifle and put it back together again blindfolded so I call BS on this :) Modern guns eject the cases themselves, what are you talking about?

LOL I was curious and what's with the name calling!!!!!! Somebody needs his botty spanked ;)

It would have to take ammo from your vest or pockets only and only loose rounds too. It doesn't really matter which pile it comes from either. The disadvantage is you only have one round - what more do you need?

OP are you French? ;)

I'm arguing fact, not opinion. You can take a bullet out of your pocket in real life and chamber a round so it can be done in game and there's NO argument to be made that it can't be done. At what point would it be "fast" and like the OP said, why not then make it so you have to grab magazines from your inventory as well?

I'm all up for some much better location buildings. the current dayz buildings are pretty shitty - we need a few "fuck me this is awesome" buildings strewn across the map.

There's no decent argument against the OP's idea and it makes sense.

Bullshit it's a tourist map. So they make tourist maps and sell them in the area where everything is written in Cryllic but they write on the map in English. Tell me brainiac, how do you read town names then?

3. Laugh ur ass off? ;)

When they finalise the spawns they need to be all over the map but they need to be in logical locations. The premise when you first start playing the game is that you wake up in a zombie apocalypse. The event has already happened as everyone is a zombie so your "character" must know about it (unless your a survivor from a shipwreck/plane crash and you just happened to wash up on the only place on earth where a ZO is happening). So now that we've established the ZO is in full swing, how did we get to where we are today? Maybe I've been a survivor for sometime and last night I went to sleep in one of the following locations,... A small camp site in the woods (tent and fire) An Apartment in a city A log cabin in the woods In an abandoned Bus In a ditch, deer stand, ship, coast (washed ashore), boat, hospital, etc There's plenty of places people would take shelter but whatever the spawn.... Make the in game Map use CRYLLIC!!

Maybe I should have read the thread before posting.... :blush:

Like I and many others have said before, there should have been a new engine from the start but everyone else cried "They can't use a new engine!" I hate to say it because BIS is a company I like a lot but guys, you really dropped the ball on Dayz. After it went viral on youtube surely that must have registered something? So how long is it going to take to rip everything out and put it all back together again?

I don't see an issue with Zeds. I had 3 on me the other day and I had a fireaxe. I found out the fireaxe is pretty useless now and had to make 10 hits on each zed to kill them but it wasn't exactly hard. Now I've worked out how to get head shots they're going down much easier.