Wayze

You mean the illusion of choice. But, however, choice made war, choice made murder, choice made 911, choice made also all the bad things in the world. There are rules in the world, which take us some choices we could make.

The whole life is a big nothing. But we still enjoy it, don't we?

Not it is not. The animations in DayZ and Arma 2 just suck.

Bullsh*t. We all played first person at the beginning and everyone was able to survive.

If you were not able to pick up stuff decently and to use a sniper (which is the case in third person only) then the game would be totally screwd, which means probably noone would play it. You forgot one thing, third person is not able to live without first person in dayz, but first person is able to survive on its own.

Hey, one of the best ideas since DayZ itself was invented like 2 hours ago, so stop this stupidness and move on!

1st person is more difficult. It is not broken and it is not weird. If you are skilled you can survive forever, which is not the average time. The point is totally irrelevant, if the statistics tell us that it is how it is we know it is because of the third person view. Why is this not the point? Because there is no tactic in third person shooters, it is the most simply gameplay which a shooter can be: Observe and wait. The reasons why you survive longer are like I said irrelevent, the fact that you actually do survive longer is enough. This data says really much about the issue. Actually it tells us there is a issue. Yes, playstyle can be very easily categorised into 1st or 3rd person. Yes they are very meaningful and they change the core gameplay of the game. It does say that third person player do have a way more easier job in surviving, which means reaching end game sooner, which means the game gets boring sooner. It is one preference under many, like 50.000 AS50s per m² is also a preference. As you can see the majority of the players actually prefer these 50.000 AS50s per m². Does that mean the standalone should have 50.000 AS50s per m²? You made it small, way to small.

I don't think you get how statistics work and what they are actually for. For example: What is the typical life expectancy? First person: 10 minutes Third person: 20 hours Yes I exaggerated that, but you get the point don't you? Ok, if you don't: What is the Zombie kill rate? First person: 10 per hour Third person: 1 per hour What is the typical life expectancy? First person: 30 minutes Third person: 2 hours What is the murder rate? First person: 2 per hour Third person: 10 per hour If there were results like that, it would mean that the third person view would change a core element of the game. And if Dean would see this statistics, you could bet for what he would decide.

No post in the last view weeks has deserved beans like that one did! This is the best and most constructive idea I have ever heard in this forum. Guys, it is our duty that Dean Rocket Hall gets to read that! I mean it, it is our duty if we want the game to be good! So, how are we going to do this? We could spam the shit out of reddit, at some point he would read it. We also could spam the forum and fill it with this massage, I don't give a f*ck if I get banned. If we do all we can do Dean will read that and I am pretty sure he would like that idea.

Exactly! On the one hand Dean is doing everything to let the game be immersive and on the other hand he does the most contraproductive thing to reach his goal, which is third person view. You simply never feel as if it was you in the situation.

Oh I know the moment as if it was yesterday. The first few weeks I played DayZ, I didn't even know about the third person mode (and I actually think there were not many server with it). I was so scared by the zombies, I never expirienced something like that. Then some day I was on a server with side chat enabled and someone asked "how to activate third person view?". The answere was "enter" and from that day all the zombies just were some annoying freaks. I played on third person from that day and I realised that many people always asked "how to activate third person view?". It was like 2 months and I think that was the time where players saw DayZ on youtube. They saw probably someone who played with third person, why else should they ask for it? So one day, later on, someone told me about frankieonpc and I watched his video. It was the time when hackers attacked dayz and public servers were unplayable. Before the time with the hackers everything was good, no AS50s everywhere, good first person servers etc. And the hackers actually accomplished what they wanted, they destroyed the DayZ mod, because right now there is no survival game, just a simple deathmatch. And everyone else who says different just lies, even DayZero the new back to the "roots" mod is ridicilous. It is simply impossible to die by starvation. And this is supposed to be a survival game? I want to be hungry that I kill people just for a can of beans. I want the game to be a survival game again, not some third person arcade shooter shit. The only survival aspect in the game is that you lose everything when dying.

No you are not.

Yes, you are completly right. That's why I want that the admins to not have the power to decide over the view.

There will be no teammates :D Nope.

I really don't know why you wrote this much, everything you just wrote does not apply for the standalone. I repeat myself here, but the standalones core elements are totally different from those of the mod. It will be a completly different game. However, I really want the standalone to atleast give us the chance to play first person. If there will be servers with first person with many people on them I would really like to play them. However, the first few days I will 100% play on a third person server, just to see the animations and give feedback for the developer. But later on I want to play on FPV server, which will probably not avaible because the admins can decide what the want.

What is going to happen is that we lose haft the player base over the core gameplay. Like I said so often now, DayZ Mod is right now just an action game. People turned it into a casual game, that is why there are so many players. But there is no way that SA will turn into something like that because it will have the core elements like rare loot and complex medical system. It won't be easy to get into the endgame and play it like a deathmatch. You will have to find a weapon first, which is very rare, and need ammo, which is very rare too. So no deathmatch anymore and I really think many, many players probably like 50% will stop playing the standalone because they had wrong expectations. It will be nothing like the mod.

He is a journalist, he is supposed to know what a near-death-expirience is. Don't defend the journalist, he just doing his job ;)

There is, because you either play on third person servers mainly or on first person servers. This has nothing to do with what you care about, it is just the fact where you play. If you don't care about it is probably B, because there is no single first person server which is good at the moment.

Half blind? Do you know how hard it is to find a camoflaged tent in a forest with a helicopter? It is impossible, no f*cking way you do that. Not even 1% chance, there is just no way you could do that in real life. So don't give me that "making you half blind" bullsh*t because that is totally senseless. Helicopters are just way to overpowered and in third person they are even more OP.

Yes, I am not saying it was not dangerous, but like I said a near death experience is the moment where you are clinically dead, not where you are in danger of death. Yes, Rocket is a hard guy, but if he was alone he would have not survived the near death experience, because like I said you are clinically dead, not just almost dead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience I admire Dean for what he did. He is a tough guy that's for sure, but some journalist obviously exaggerated there to get some more clicks. And I know how that is.

Sure they cost, but you know what is always the main cost? PR. The advertisment is always the highest part and as DayZ does not need advertisment and also does not need an new engine because there is one, the cost are highly reduced.

I did not read the full article, but isn't "near death expirience" a bit exaggerated? Sure, he was hungry, but as "near geath expirience" I understand actually being dead but then being reanimated. Like seeing the white tunnel and stuff. But other from that the article seems good, reminds me on the time when DayZ was a survival game... I will read it tomorrow because it is 3am right now.

Yes free, because everyone had arma 2 before and if they didn't they just bought it for the vanilla game. What the hell? The game costs 25€ (or did), it is everything else than free. Wait a second, you actually believe that DayZ Standalone costs millions to produce? Sorry, don't be ridicilous.

Just deliver ecidence goddamit. Everyone can throw with words. "I said I know, so I am the king of the world you ignorant f*ck" What the hell is wrong with you? Show us some f*cking screenshots and we believe you, otherwise your arguments are worth bullsh*t.

The problem here is obviously that rocket thinks that most people actually want third person to be in the game because they play on third person servers. But actually I really don't believe that, there are so many other reasons why we all play on third person server, but that does not mean that we like it. But I really think that Dean thinks the majority actually likes it and that is why it is in their. But this logic is just totally stupid. Like we all can see most of the people play on servers with 50.000 AS50s per m², but does that mean that actually all of those people like to play on these servers or maybe the mod was not survival enough so it turned into a deathmatch. Anyway, I really think this should not be something for an admin to decide, because obviously they will be the same people who also made the DayZ Mod servers. And I really don't know how Dean wants to pay these servers, because sooner or later the admins have no input because the AS50 donation packs just miss, so they will shut down the servers. Anyway, my point is that admins should not have any right to decide over the gameplay of the game. I want first person servers to be seperated from the third person servers. But if you give the admins the choice in the end there will be just like 2 first person servers.