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Enjoy your loot while you can, it won't be there when you get back :P

+1 Also Col-Wick, not sure what you're talking about handgun magazines being rare. My friend and I are practically tripping over them all over the place (mostly high chance weapon spawns in major cities or the air field but they're certainly not as rare as you're making them out to be) when we run about. Though I don't fully agree with magazines being rare, as WH123 says. Doesn't make sense to have magazine fed weapons lying around with no magazines to feed them, especially when producing magazines is almost as cheap as producing the handful of ammunition that they feed (if not less, thanks for the labour China :D) Yeah leaving ammunition in a magazine is detrimental to its performance but more or less not how metal works. There -is- a failure to feed after the spring is worn out but it's only after a certain amount of the magazine. A spring is still a spring, which is typically metal. Metal only bends to a certain position when you bend it -further- than the position you want it and then it comes back (hence the spring property) just a touch. So... a fully depressed spring in a magazine after awhile would probably lose its ability to fully feed a weapon its full capacity to maybe a third or half of the magazine's original capacity. Just guessing, I would say if you wore out a 30 round mag over a week, you'd only be fed about 10-15 rounds, maybe more maybe less. I am however just guessing based on my experience with metal work and whatnot, what the actual number or effect of leaving ammunition in a magazine for too long (or what that window is for that matter) is beyond me because I've no military/recreational shooting experience.

All seriousness though, as far as I'm aware tents and their loot do not persist beyond restarts.

As much as I'd love to continue this -thrilling- debate, I expressed an opinion to the contrary and your first word's were a Lawyer's defamation argument. That being said, I leave you with the following my friend. No hard feelings <3

^ Also I misspoke, I won't stop playing the game entirely. Just for a little while.

Well alright. The politica quagmire that is the middle east, Mogadishu, several African nations and tribes currently massacring one another even though us priviledged white people like to pretend it isn't happening aaaaaaaaand North Korea. I would like to point out that I brought up three points that refute what you said, whereas you provided an example of a well known natural disaster that every celebrity and their dog was jumping on to get free publicity when in fact the rest of the thinking/feeling West had been offering aid work in all sorts of Nations that include ones where white people get shot for being white people all over the world. Also since you decided to be such a condescending ass and attack me as a person, rather than discuss the points I brought up I provide you the following because it is as meaningful as your "argument".

Loot rollbacks. I'm not particularly attached to my gear, I shed that part of me awhile ago after playing the game for the longest time but it is kinda sad to see all that hard earned progress go to waste. I'll probably stop playing in the new year because of the planned loot rollbacks, mostly because christmas gave me a Teddy Bear which I named Mr. Snuggles. He even has a note inside him that says "This is my teddy, Mr. Snuggles. He likes warm hugs and keeps monsters away at night, take good care of him for me."

Fair point, just evaluating the question based on my past experiences. *Shrug*

Well from a realistic perspective... 45ACP I think should be a civilian cartridge since it's not really widespread in NATO anymore, since NATO has standardized all of its ammunition. 9mm should be both Civilian and Military because it's the standard pistol cartridge within NATO but also pretty handy for home defense... 7.62x39mm is kind of a military cartridge because it's the standard ammunition for most assault rifles in the former USSR. That being said... I knew a guy from Serbia who served in the Serbian Army and according to him, the state doesn't want civilians owning weapons outside of like... basically shotguns (sporting grades like birdshot or buckshot) or hunting rifles. Assault weaponry, handguns and whatnot is very much regulated to military personnel only because the state doesn't want it's civilian population going in to revolt and mounting their own coup de tat. Serbia is probably pretty far from Chernarus but I'm sure most of those lines of thought translate over pretty easily. That being said, the SKS by it's own description isn't a widely used weapon for military, mostly a collector's weapon and used for ceremonial purposes. So finding the actual guns, not that hard. Finding ammunition for it? Understandably more difficult.

I'd like to point out to those arguing the whole "Social contract and cooperation in an apocalypse would not have us all as homocidal monsters" a few points I've picked up during my classic education... A) Human beings are inherently violent, we evolved to be so ( I'll poke religion in a second, right now it's science's turn ) because we needed to fend off hungry predators and territorial herbavores. Yeah those harmless leaf eating mammals that the drippy hippies fight so hard to save the rights of? You know, the ones with horns/claws/body mass far outstripping our own that we killed for food? Those things like to kill us right back. We human beings over the course of our evolution have been inherently violent because we killed other creatures out of necessity and in doing so, killed those of us who weren't violent as well because if we -could- kill them and take their stuff, we totally would. B ) Social contract - if modern sociology is to be believed - was formed by most basic religions that eventually got distilled in to one basic concept: Work together, live in harmony. ie: Don't murder your neighbor because it hurts the collective. I would theorize that having an omniscient, all powerful deity that would punish us in the life beyond for our transgressions (not a concept born in Judaism or Christianity, actually pretty widespread) made controlling and keeping the masses from killing one another fairly easy. Which brings a final point... C) Our society, our modern day contemporary society is the longest lasting largely atheistic society to survive on its own in history. Empires rise and fall but what has stood the test of time over and over again is keeping people together under one common belief structure and one common moral code. Whether it be "Do unto others" or "Don't covet they neighbor's Ox", having a similar belief structure has kept human beings together of a like mind functioning on a societal level. In fact, every conflict in history can be traced back to some level of disagreement in belief structure (which isn't a statement about the pros or cons of religion, just an observation of fact) and often lack of resources as well. When two groups of differing belief structures encounter a scarcity of resources, they -will- clash. Take those in to account when considering that in contemporary society everyone is largely allowed to have whatever belief structure they so choose, without one unifying concept to hold them all together; throw them in to a scenario where the confines of our omnipresent judicial system is no longer enforcing the social contract so belief structures with no unified core are conflicting alongside a scarcity of resources and our innate instinct when someone has something we want is to take it from them and might equals right... What I'm getting at is, people don't realize how thin and fragile the threads holding our society together actually are and DayZ is a wonderful example of how a mixture of (theoretically) finite resources with no constraints or boundaries to what one can do - with a dash of natural tension and distrust of strangers - could and probably would actually play out. So... suck it Cracked. :P

So here's a silly idea, I know we puke when we eat/drink too much because our stomachs can only take so much. Here's something that I've noticed though, I can sprint like a marathon champ when I have the "stuffed" status (meaning my stomach is full). I feel that this isn't very accurate, if we're following through with the puking mechanic, I think we should vomit when we have the "stuffed" status and sprint shortly afterwards. Any takers? Existing idea already?

See I really disagree about jogging. Having eaten to that "tubby custard" feeling in the past, I rarely wanted to get up from my seat let alone -walk- anywhere. Keep in mind... Eating until you are "stuffed" isn't like eating until you feel full. ... Though on second thought, I guess the range of movement you should be allowed would depend on the colour of the condition. The first "stuffed" in yellow would just be a 'yeah I'm full, feels good' where the orange would be 'whoa I don't wanna run anywhere, better slow down' and anyone who is silly enough to eat until they are red before they puke should be 'no I'm only going to walk or be polishing my shoes with my stomach contents'. Seems a bit more reasonable to vary the punishment of reckless behaviour based on how reckless/silly it is rather than across the board "YOU SHALL FOREVER WALK SLOW NO MATTER WHAT".

So I'm sure this is already a thing in the bug report area but I feel like I need to express my frustration with it and also give other people an opportunity to rant about this bug and if it has screwed them over, share their story. Or alternatively, if anyone knows how to fix it (aside from dying because my friend and I are going to try that, I'm hoping to get a solution that doesn't involve running back from the coast to retrieve my stuff) your insight would be greatly appreciated Long story short, my friend and I spent the better part of an entire game session trying to fix this bug without any results. We tried... -Warming up (changing clothes, wearing thicker clothes, heatpacks, running for an extended period of time, sitting next to a fire for 10+ minutes) -Curing sickness (anti-biotic pills, injection vials which don't actually work, vitamin bottles) -Fixing a broken/fractured limb (Two morphine injectors and at least four splints) -Logging out and then back in -Switching servers -Several combinations of the above So far, we've yet to get anything to work. The problem itself isn't that big, my aim is still straight enough that I can shoot from iron sights at a certain range but it compounds enormously when I'm looking through a scope/pair of binoculars. So if you have a similar experience, anecdote or solution, please do reply! If not, reply just to keep this up near the top of the board. If you don't have a solution, someone else might! <3

I dunno, it makes for good conversation I suppose? Yeah I know about the bug tracker, I didn't see a solution posted when I did though >.>

Given the ambiguous nature of the servers, sometimes dropping a backpack is really rolling the dice on whether or not you'll lose all your items. The problem with this of course, for me at least, is when I'm trying to maintain a low profile (prone/crouching) I have a bit of a hard time keeping that low profile. A bit of an anecdote, I was at the NWAF and I had a Mountaineer's Backpack (green), was atop the firehouse tower and two other people were in the air traffic tower across the runway from me. I was trying to hide by staying prone but they could very clearly see me because of the huge profile my backpack was giving me over the edge of the tower, even more so from the forested side behind the wall because there is no ledge lip there. I decided, in case they wanted to pursue this, to drop my backpack beside me after moving some ammunition in to my pockets and moving non-essentials to the backpack. Of course, it all turned out to be for little because they scarpered and I had the airfield to myself afterwards... Anyways, we're just now implementing tents so the idea that I have is make dropping a backpack similar to dropping a tent barring a few exceptions. 1) can only "drop" one backpack per player, so people can't just hoard backpacks in the forest (as they are considerably harder to see). 2) You can only have one backpack, pick up another or "deploy" another and your backpack becomes standard loot that could be despawned by the server's loot table or lost on a restart. It would make trying to reduce your profile more "authentic" (which is what Rocket was going for when he first announced DayZ standalone, as opposed to "realistic") and if done right, could be an integral part of decision making in the game. Take the backpack, risk it getting ruined by gunfire/zeds or leave it behind and risk someone else finding it and looting your precious valuables while you're off looking for another can of beans? Any takers? Idea exist already? Edit: I would like to say before the "WELL ACTUALLY" peanut gallery comes up reminding me to just not take huge backpacks, I have since this incident decided to roll with the lower profile/smaller backpacks like the Taloon and Hunting backpacks instead of the Mountaineer ones.

I've never actually had this happen to me but it does concern me if there's potential. Just my thoughts on the matter to make backpacks more diverse beyond just something you carry your beans in.

I think you would still puke from jogging because that's how our bodies are designed, to empty stomach contents when under duress. Filling the stomach and then straining oneself with large amounts of exercise I think would result in vomiting. It doesn't take for the "stuffed" condition to go away, depending on how much you stuffed yourself. So in reality, you'd only be restricted for a short time.

See this right here? This is why I shoot anyone who has any sort of equipment beyond a pair of jeans and a T-shirt. Then again, if someone in jeans and T-shirts bee lines towards me, I assume he wants to fisticuffs me and shoot him anyways.

You refuel the truck with a jerry can from inside the cab.

My friend and I pop in to the airfield from time to time. We play between the two servers currently (No we don't server hop, when one goes down we just switch to the other because we don't feel like waiting for the server to restart) and we find all sorts of stuff at the airfield when we do go there. Granted, we have yet to find any sort of weapon beyond SKSs to beat the band but honestly neither of us are perturbed by it. We joke about how ineffective the military must be with so few modern guns lying around and ammunition everywhere (we gather 5.56 ammo and dump it at a location that shall remain nameless to spite server hoppers) but we're content with what we find when we do go there. When I go to an airfield, I'm after a few things. Ammunition, clothing with better storage/lower profile in woodland settings (vests/jackets/backpacks etc) and boots. Every time we've made an airfield run, there have been boots out the wazoo so whenever we're still using civilian shoes, airfields are a good place to go. When he's running low on ammo, we pop in to a military spawn and he's topped off for awhile. All in all, we're happy with my Mosin Nagant and his SKS. They're both medium-to-long range weapons and we have our pistols that it's not very difficult to find ammunition for. That personal information aside, OP is pretty pathetic. Wanna find military hardware? Kinda too bad bro, as far as I'm aware the devs have been working on making military grade weaponry harder to acquire. Better learn how to use the common spawning civilian grade weaponry because the days of airfield deathmatch are gradually coming to a close. Also I'm gonna laugh so hard when you come back to this thread/board whining about how you got killed by someone camping the air field while server hopping because you deserve it.

... That's so wrong it hurts. The effective range of an assault rifle is 300m generally speaking, so you're not using the weapon to it's full capability within 30-100m The shotgun on the other hand is effective up to 50m. So crunching numbers, with a shotgun (using your wildly inaccurate measurements of combat in a city btw) you only have to close 50m to get within your effective killing range. With an AKM you'd have to distance yourself from your target 270-200m to get the full potential of your weapon. Which isn't to say that an AKM (or any assault rifle for that matter) is less effective at close quarters, the weapon will still function at 30-100m but a weapon actually suited for the job is a shotgun. Use the right tool for the job and you're more likely to have success. Also again, AKM ammunition you either have to be very lucky to find or go to high risk places to aquire (ie: military spawns/airfields) whereas buckshot is quite actually -everywhere-.

... You know I'm pretty sure hackers are pretty much a thing of the past. What with the battle-eye client and immeasurable efforts from the dev community to beat cheaters, I think their sights are now set on beating the exploiters.

And while you're presiding over what spray-and-pray weapon you should take, I'm at the top of a tall building centering the sights of my Mosin Nagant on your center of mass. Then I pull the trigger, watch you flop over like a sack of potatos and cover my friend as he picks through your stuff. Muahahahaahahahahah! Just kidding, I avoid PvP deathmatch zones like Cherno like the plague :P Edit: A suggestion pertaining to the actual thread, I'd take the MP133 over an AKM. Yeah it's effective range is only 50m but 7.62x39 is so difficult to come across, whereas buckshot cases and piles are so frequent you'd think the ammunition is breeding like bunnies when you're not looking. You know what the effective range of an empty assault rifle is? Zero meters.

Oh yeah no, the point I was making wasn't that we -would- be able to go without puking. The idea I was getting at was "military trained personnel were puking their guts out after eating lots and being forced to run several miles, us civilian survivors shouldn't even be able to make a fraction of that without tossing our stomach contents all over our shoes".