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Or you could get an AKM and do it at full auto!

Nope the community has proven they want the easiest copout way every time look at Epoch with its multiple stores on the map (real survival game there) and completely blows away every other mod including regular DayZ for players and servers. Force the 4th wall mod on people and within a week or two nobody will even remember the before times other than the few who are using the corner camp exploit because it is the only way they can get kills. If you gave the community what they wanted we would all spawn in with scoped high powered guns, a deployable helicopter, and there would be no zombies or PvP in the game. Early alpha development is exactly the time you should be changing around gameplay mechanics to improve the game

If they got that guy and the people who did the zombies in Arma 3 BP / hopefully the team they got for AI is good then this game will be GG WP see you later every other game ever made.

See we can all agree that oldboy doesn't know what he's talking about at least! if you're playing against people on the same "difficulty level" as you than you're skill will not change one way or the other based on what perspective you're server is set to. You gain skill be getting beat by people who are better than you and learning from your mistakes.

Epoch is to vanilla mod what 3rd person is to hardcore servers.

^you mods are literally the best in the history of the internet :beans: :beans: :beans: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So have we confirmed that this is someone Alt +F4 or internet dying pretty much?

^All of this^ The only difference I find between 1st and 3rd is you get scared by zombies and people coming around corners in 1st person. It's pretty much the same game as when I play 3rd I always go into sights to shoot people anyway unless I come around a corner and are touching them. But that said if you spend all your time corner camping on 3rd person servers you probably aren't going to be as good as someone who doesn't.

Lol yeah somenew guy made a thread with the road sign for Черная Поляна and asked where they were and I was like "ughhh that isn't a real town wtf...?"

Because they probably know that most people in this game nowadays don't want the "exploit" fixed in any way even one that doesn't touch 3pp in any way other than unfairly seeing around corners and completely negates any of the fake arguments the crutch kiddies try to make ... which is sad.

Which again I'm not doing ... I don't think I've made any post comparing 3pp with 1pp. I've already discussed 3pp and the flaws of 3pp as well as a perfect fix for those flaws of 3pp by using something that was already in Arma 2. You just chose to ignore it. You're also the one doing all the assumption I simply pointed out that you are acting exactly like the people I previously described and are continuing to do so by completely ignoring or acting like someone's points aren't valid because they aren't yours. People like this (not directing this at you unless you see it as describing yourself) are why people like me just make posts like I did originally [Man you scrubs sure are desperately trying to hold onto that crutch that makes you feel like you aren't terrible at the game because you can kill fresh spawns by magically seeing around corners huh?] and told Dagwood he would probably eventually end up doing the same. Because there is no point trying to discuss anything with people who ignore anything that didn't come out of their own mouth while putting words in other people's to make themselves seem right.

Sweet so it should be soon! 24 hour servers suck so bad for people with jobs that line up with their countrie's servers day time hours and the 4-6 hour day servers are perfect.

And now you're just completely going off on something else and ignoring what was said and assuming I only play 1pp which, even though isn't true, somehow makes any point I was trying to make invalid. Like someone who doesn't care about anything but keeping their corner camping crutch ... You are living up to exactly what I was talking about earlier. If you're going to claim you're not one of the people who play 3pp to use the exploit then don't live up the the stereotype ... or continue I couldn't really care less about someone acting as you are.

Every single other 3rd person shooter isn't built from a military sandbox simulator they are mad cartoony and have things like wall running and having to shoot people 10 times before they die to make it so you can compete with the corner campers. This game does not. I didn't say anything about all 3rd person gamers I was refering to the people in this thread acting like removing corner camping would be the end of the world. I guess if you took it as being directed at you that says something about yourself.

And there is a perfect way around that exploit from Arma 2 that keeps 3rd person intact other than that exploit. But these people don't care about that because they don't care about "being on a level playing field" they care about being able to use the crutch of corner camping.

This is exactly the problem with you people. You aren't corner camping to get on a level field with everyone you are corner camping because you want an unfair game breaking advantage over people who don't feel like sitting at a corner for hours straight until they see someone and the perfectly perfect idea of not being able to see in 3rd person what you wouldn't in 1st by some sort of FoW is absurd to you. And yeah you can see through walls sometimes in 1st person if you move your camera around right. Not around the wall but through it. Same in Arma 3.

And with that I think it's time to bust out the good ol' I love the people who act like every single shooter ever made wasn't 1st person only for the first 30 years shooters existed yet people seemed to manage and that 1st or 3rd person / hardcore or casual weren't even words to describe a game ... you were just playing a shooter. People who act like it's impossible to play a shooter in 1st person view are HIGHlarious.

Everyone is born bi-sexual. Society brainwashes it out of people these days.

Except that would only apply if the guy on the roof was using 3rd person to see over the roof without exposing himself and then landed his first shot. If he can't magically see around the lip of the roof he needs to expose himself and gives the person on the ground A CHANCE TO SEE HIM and stay out of his LoS or if he misses the first shot the guy on the ground will duck in to a building (which will probably have a gun if it's balota) now knowing roughly where the roof camper is and again HAS A CHANCE to shoot him from a random window or again stay out of his LoS and escape. However unlikely the red parts are there is still a chance which makes it as fair as DayZ can be. If someone is magically peeking over a corner with 0% exposure then pops up and shoots someone instantly the person had absolutely no chance and that is what is game breaking.

So the way to play right is to never go near any building or tree or any other object larger than a human on the off chance someone is corner camping behind it? Sounds fun.

So by that logic you want them to add nothing else to this game ever? This is an early alpha development build things aren't ever going to go 100% perfect. And it worked perfectly when it was used in Arma 2 no reason it shouldn't here as well.

Yes but as shown by the picture in the other thread it's not the same. The person doing the corner camping can see around the corner and see the person coming. The person who is coming can't see the person around the corner though. This is the opposite of having the same ability.

Add the feature from one of the mods where you can't actually see what is around a corner (in terms of players / items) until your character can actually physically see around it. Anyone who disagrees with this making 3rd person perfect is only doing so because they know they are bad at the game and the only way they can continue to KoS is by corner camping.

Oh sweet thanks for teaching me how to kill people in DayZ. What does anything you said have to do with my response to someone who says they are going camp laying prone in a hallway? And you knowing someone will probably come into your building eventually is not you knowing the exact second that someone is coming around a corner because you can somehow magically see around it even though you're in first person.

People who are camping don't magically get faster reaction times or have their game running slightly in the future from other people. You're talking as if people who are camping on a first person server can still magically see around corners and know people are coming in a desperate attempt to make yourself seem right.

How do you figure that's true at all? You would have no clue someone was coming and they would have no clue you are there. I personally would have a fairly decent chance of killing you in that situation as I'm in the 99th percentile for reaction time and always anticipate that there is an enemy everywhere at every time. See this is how you make an appropriate rebuttal to a thread that is of a different opinion than your own. Not by going "HURDUR everyone who plays hardcore is bad and needs safety blankets cuz they can't handle corner camping"