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11:05 PM Eastern 9/23/2012

In this video, there are three separate VoIP conversations happening at once:

1. The primary conversation between Killer101 and myself

2. the irrelevant background conversation between Chris and Acrasial (who are in a separate TeamSpeak server)

3. the relevant in-game VoIP between Killer101 and the hacker, Gpeck (we can only hear Killer's side of this conversation, per TeamSpeak)

Our helicopter had been stolen. We were pretty sure it was an honest steal and we knew for certain that it was stolen by John. We were in the process of hunting John when Killer101 spotted the chopper in Elektro. Killer then reports that somebody else is there, and starts asking him questions. I tell Killer to just kill him. Killer reports shooting the player in the head multiple times without success. Killer then makes the judgement that the player is hacking, but is unable to identify the player because our server has no nameplates. I'm the server admin, so I decide to kick every unfamiliar player serially until the one in front of Killer disappears. I try to start this process, but then, for some reason, the player wants to teleport me to the site. Killer tells the player my name, and then I'm teleported to the scene. I resume the process of serially kicking players, and the first try is lucky. Gpeck is kicked and the identified hacker contemporaneously disappears.

Afterward, another player appears and attacks us, but I have no reasonable suspicion that he was hacking. I kicked him and shut down the server to be safe. I found Gpeck's GUID in the server log and added him to my ban list.

Gpeck's GUID: df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36

EDIT: I have no reasonable suspicion now that the second player was hacking, but at the end of the video I was working with really sketchy details. I didn't shut down the server to protect the vehicles, I shut it down to stop the hackers from returning before I could ban them.

-Joker

Edited by Private_Joker

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Afterward, another player appears and attacks us, but I have no reasonable suspicion that he was hacking. I kicked him and shut down the server to be safe.

You can't do that to keep "your" chopper safe.

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24.09.2012 11:58:45: Gpeck (IP.138:4104) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 26:4 [6200,2615,11]

24.09.2012 12:06:38: Gpeck (IP.138:4104) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 19:212 [9847,2310,45]

Lets see, the horizontal plane alone.... He went from square 62 to square 98 in 8 minutes? He had already been banned on my server.

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You can't do that to keep "your" chopper safe.

There was a hacker in my server. I shut it down so I could look at the server logs and make the appropriate bans. Thanks for having zero sympathy for my effort trying to clean up this game. Also thanks for instead accusing me of admin abuse.

24.09.2012 11:58:45: Gpeck (IP.138:4104) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 26:4 [6200,2615,11]

24.09.2012 12:06:38: Gpeck (IP.138:4104) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 19:212 [9847,2310,45]

Lets see, the horizontal plane alone.... He went from square 62 to square 98 in 8 minutes? He had already been banned on my server.

@Excelsior: where did you get those data?

-Joker

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24.09.2012 11:58:45: Gpeck (IP.138:4104) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 26:4 [6200,2615,11]

24.09.2012 12:06:38: Gpeck (IP.138:4104) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 19:212 [9847,2310,45]

Lets see, the horizontal plane alone.... He went from square 62 to square 98 in 8 minutes? He had already been banned on my server.

Approximately 3 kilometers in 8 minutes isn't unthinkable with a vehicle, I'm pretty sure I can even use a bicycle to get from Cherno to Electro in less than 10 minutes.

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There was a hacker in my server. I shut it down so I could look at the server logs and make the appropriate bans. Thanks for having zero sympathy for my effort trying to clean up this game. Also thanks for instead accusing me of admin abuse.

You said you already found and kicked the hacker, yet you proceed to kick another innocent player and shut down the server to protect your assets. It's very much possible to retrieve the hacker's GUID from the logs and add it to the ban list without bringing the server down. Also, with the modern versions of the BE bypasses they hardly show up in the logs anyway. A simple server restart to reset possibly teleported vehicles to their last saved locations would have been sufficient.

I'm sorry you feel utterly victimized by having a hacker on your server, that surely never happened to me or any other server admin around. You do however seem to bend the rules to your will so you can protect, repair and retrieve your chopper. I like how you mentioned "accusing me of admin abuse" even though I never brought that up in the first place, but that must just be your nagging conscious.

Report the guy to the CBL and be done with it.

Edited by Frop

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What the hell, man. You clearly insinuated that I was abusing, don't even argue about that. Also, I reiterate that I did not know the second player was innocent until I went back and watched the video and reviewed the logs. Yet more I reiterate, because you don't damned pay attention to the facts, that I stopped the server because it takes more than 30 seconds to review logs and ban a player. I didn't want the confirmed hacker [hackers, at the time I believed] returning to my server with a vengeance so he could continue hacking me or anyone else.

You're right, admin abuse is a big concern, just as big as hacking. The fact is, I did get a server just exactly because I wanted directly to have the ability to deal with hackers precisely in the way that I did. Without that, I have to work through some probably irresponsible server host to most likely get nothing done. Now, I've got a hacker banned and you're assuming I must be a cheater because I wanted to have the power to protect myself, my friends, and my regular players from hackers. Clearly nobody should ever be given any power at all, since the only thing that can result from that is abuse, and never handling of responsibilities.

You're damned right I feel victimized by hackers, don't even try to tell me how I should or shouldn't feel. And I don't appreciate you insinuating that I feel special and privileged for being a victim. I don't, but I do feel like I should be standing up beside other server admins and working together to stop this big problem instead of pointing the finger in every other direction.

-Joker

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Approximately 3 kilometers in 8 minutes isn't unthinkable with a vehicle, I'm pretty sure I can even use a bicycle to get from Cherno to Electro in less than 10 minutes.

Stop arguing that he's not a hacker. Listen to the video. He's standing right in front of Killer101, saying "Do you have a bloodbag or should I spawn one?"

I understand "innocent until proven guilty", but try applying that to everybody involved instead of pre-judging the people with the power.

-Joker

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looks like both killer101 and Gpek were hacking... both got shot up with clips of ammo and neither one dies. way to go showing your boy hacking joker... Oh wait, you didnt show that part in the video... where are those missing minutes? (please spare me the feigned outrage at this comment, you know as well as I do what I am talking about)

Edited by BelMarduk

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looks like both killer101 and Gpek were hacking... both got shot up with clips of ammo and neither one dies. way to go showing your boy hacking joker... Oh wait, you didnt show that part in the video... where are those missing minutes? (please spare me the feigned outrage at this comment, you know as well as I do what I am talking about)

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ಠ_ಠ ...

I don't intend to feed the troll beyond above image.

_Joker

Edited by Private_Joker

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looks like both killer101 and Gpek were hacking... both got shot up with clips of ammo and neither one dies. way to go showing your boy hacking joker... Oh wait, you didnt show that part in the video... where are those missing minutes? (please spare me the feigned outrage at this comment, you know as well as I do what I am talking about)

lol.

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From http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/55657-start-here-a-beginners-guide-to-dayz-servers-and-administration/ :

Obviously, if you've read the forum, a lot of Server Administrators take issue with these rules. This is because the process is lengthy and because everyone this day and age likes to see immediate response, its obviously a problem. Now, with that said, it's understandable that Admins and players alike want something done immediately when a hacker kills everyone on a server.

There are, however, ways of combating hackers without breaking the rules

  • Shut the server down IMMEDIATELY - This will most likely end up in a Hive rollback and any users who died will most likely get their gear back. THIS IS NOT FOOLPROOF. IT DOES NOT WORK ALL THE TIME.

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I am the John that you were 'hunting'. As I put on the map in reply to your "I John, I dont know where you are but..." I put a who's hunting me, and finally a 'Ill be at anti sniper hill'... which I was making my way to... the helli was parked just off town, I was no more than 40 meters away (as I heard the convo between killer and G) I also watched G put a whole mag into killers head. killer says 'you're hacking' and G says you're hacking too... it was just about here when you kicked me. You abuse admin powers (when I took the helli you were not on the server, so you has to be abusing your admin powers looking back to see that it was indeed me that took it) Like I said to you in another form of communication. You want to play like that make your server private. If its a public server then play by the public server rules. Oh, and your camp, yes the ADMIN of this servers camp (139:039 apx) has numerous AS50 TWS's! along with other hacked in guns, duping in tents. The brown url had some pretty good fire power in it too. I used the satchel charges in it to blow it and the heli up. Really, again, no rightious indignation wanted or accepted. and you call me a troll.

Yes Joker, you know now that I know what I'm talking about even if I cant 'prove' it to the general masses... The masses at least can go look at your tents though.

EDIT: I was the first guy you kicked. NOT Gpeck, Looking at that video again, I bet the guy that shot at you was a hacker with player shield on but no god mode, killer was between you and he. Killer was killed by player shield but you weren't? you got the shot on him. Maybe that's why you felt the urge to say that the second attack you don't think was a hacker... covers up your resident hacker (killer101) hacks.

Second EDIT: To sum up, you are an abusive admin that indiscriminately kicks players, uses server resets to keep 'your' vehicles safe in your care for your use, and has a resident hacker that because he 'works' for you, you're ok with.

I AM NOT DEFENDING Gpeck IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM here. I am calling the server admin out for his high crimes and misdemeanors.

Edited by BelMarduk

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It take about 3-3.5mins per kilometer walking. He went exactly from 062 126 to 098 129 in 7 minutes 52 seconds. AND showed up on my setpos.log so walking was not a concern for me. How else would you explain he showed up on that log please?

Approximately 3 kilometers in 8 minutes isn't unthinkable with a vehicle, I'm pretty sure I can even use a bicycle to get from Cherno to Electro in less than 10 minutes.

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I was no more than 40 meters away (as I heard the convo between killer and G) I also watched G put a whole mag into killers head. killer says 'you're hacking' and G says you're hacking too...

So how can you tell where he was aiming? just curious, but obviously he hit the whole mag in my head xD plus i had 876 blood after that happened, not sure why you are even complaining, join another server and get over it, if you dont like how he does stuff and deal with hackers like everyone else.

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John, I knew that it was you because when you stole the copter the only other people in the server were friends who I communicate with directly (this is something any player can, and does, do, and doesn't take admin powers). You're ignoring the fact that I didn't immediately ban you when I found out the chopper was gone. Instead, I was in the process of running a manhunt (i.e. playing the game fairly) when Killer101 discovered a hacker in possession of the chopper. It's pretty clear logic that I should start looking at the last person known to have the chopper when I'm looking for the hacker. I was wrong, obviously, and I'm sorry that you got kicked, but it was pretty incidental.

We don't hack. We play intelligently and we're proud of the time we spend and the prizes we earn. We were exactly as well-equipped on the other servers we played on, but we kept getting ruined by hackers so we decided to buy our own server so that we could play fairly and have some small ability to protect ourselves. It's not difficult to keep up with good weapons and ammo if you do frequent airfield runs, which is a common quest when you control vehicles.

If you want to ask me specific questions then fine, but I'm not going to keep wasting energy defending myself and my friends against broad accusations if you're not willing to believe anything I say.

-Joker

Edited by Private_Joker

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He was already on my list too:

From setpos

21.09.2012 11:29:40: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 80:40 [7052,4450,199]

21.09.2012 11:29:41: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 80:40 [7052,4450,199]

21.09.2012 11:35:04: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 128:4 [7048,4452,201]

21.09.2012 11:35:04: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 128:4 [7048,4452,201]

21.09.2012 11:36:34: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 81:247 [7048,4449,200]

21.09.2012 11:36:34: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - 81:247 [7048,4449,200]

From createvehicle:

Line 13416: 21.09.2012 11:48:36: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - #0 "BAF_ied_v1" 93:333 93:135 [1772,2222,6] [0,0,0]

Line 13417: 21.09.2012 11:48:36: Gpeck (69.245.74.138:2304) df0217dc42857fe8e494137b4f396d36 - #26 "BAF_ied_v1" 93:333 93:135 [1772,2222,6] [0,0,0]

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