Thermals

[ZomboWTF 527]

Yeah love my L85 :) the thermal as50 are hacked right? Its BS to have thermal on the weapon with the longest range. The L85 only has a 300m range, so it is limited.

having a thermal and a as50 is just as good, you just keep being scoped and switch the as50 from your backpack into your inventory once you aquired a target

thermal is just so ridiculous, finding good weapons okay but finding a functional thermal scope mounted on a high tech functional weapon in an apocalypse situation... yeah, not very likely

edit: ypu can easily kill people with the L85 at 600 meters

Edited September 24, 2012 by Zombo

[scoffield77@gmail.com 192]

Yeah love my L85 :) the thermal as50 are hacked right? Its BS to have thermal on the weapon with the longest range. The L85 only has a 300m range, so it is limited.

L85 can kill up to 3,000m maximum range.

Effective range being 600m

[bazbake 456]

GHILLIE GOOD!

THERMAL BAD!

Hah, yeah, you guys are hilarious.

EDIT: No, but seriously, they both suck. I just find the whining about scissors appropriately beating paper to be amusing.

Edited September 24, 2012 by BazBake

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

Honestly I would like to have more AR vs. AR battles, It'd be much more exciting to fight if you and your group are engaged in a street battle with another group just firing M16 rounds at eachother.

What DayZ is now: Run along the streets of Elektro. Get sniped entering the firehouse....

[IncognitoNico 71]

First of all the only thermal weapon in game is the L85 the other are IR sight or the NVGS that is basically a IRNV sight in the head, and ye, they are completely unrealistic, it would be impossible to find a weapon with IR or thermal sights since that would be the first thing the military would take to defend themselves and the country against zombies and some NVGs would need at least batteries

[kevinawright@hotmail.com 10]

You'll never take my L85 away, probably the most effective tool for avoiding players and aforementioned, recon. That being said I have no problem with the items implemented in the game, just the stuff that gets scripted in.

[IncognitoNico 71]

First of all the only thermal weapon in game is the L85 the other are IR sight or the NVGS that is basically a IRNV sight in the head, and ye, they are completely unrealistic, it would be impossible to find a weapon with IR or thermal sights since that would be the first thing the military would take to defend themselves and the country against zombies and some NVGs would need at least batteries

Edit: The only place you would actually find a high caliber sniper rifle is on a sniper training facility, or on snipers guarding a military base, and them would have been gone to protect important people, maybe in heli crashes there would be a tiny possibility of getting one and it certainly wouldn't be an AS50, and since chenarus is on russia it would be a dragunov, it wouldn't be a huey, it would be a kasakta, it wouldn't be an m16 or m4 it would be an ak, a an-94 or something

[slyder73 94]

Yeah love my L85 :) the thermal as50 are hacked right? Its BS to have thermal on the weapon with the longest range. The L85 only has a 300m range, so it is limited.

The L85 does not have a 300m range. 300m is just what the sights are set for on default. You can fire as far as the bullet will travel before it hits the ground. It is just less accurate at the same long distances as the AS50. Using PageUP and PageDOWN, you can adjust the zero of the scope on the L85 by the way. The bullet does not stop at 300m.

[Zombie Jesus 723]

Edit: The only place you would actually find a high caliber sniper rifle is on a sniper training facility, or on snipers guarding a military base, and them would have been gone to protect important people, maybe in heli crashes there would be a tiny possibility of getting one and it certainly wouldn't be an AS50, and since chenarus is on russia it would be a dragunov, it wouldn't be a huey, it would be a kasakta, it wouldn't be an m16 or m4 it would be an ak, a an-94 or something

Since there is no story you can just assume a NATO force was deployed to contain the infection. Realism.

Just kidding, I could live without the L85, but after running into numerous groups using it to spot I will not put mine down until everyone else does. Finally picked up an AS50 TWS just to test the optics yesterday (I bury the body or backpack delete the weapon normally) and that thing is ultra cheap. The site is easier to view targets and don't worry after murdering a cow I destroyed the weapon.

[Ballistixz 12]

all snipers and thermals need to be taken out of the game for the standalone.

this is a fucking survival sim, not a herp derp camp the hill with a thermal scope sniper rifle for the lawlz sim. go play halo/cod/battlefield for that shit.

Edited September 24, 2012 by Ballistixz

[Kaffarov37 125]

I only use the l85 for the scope.

[ZomboWTF 527]

i can live with m24 and maybe even m107 (since everyone seeme to be such a bad shot with it) but the AS50 and L85.... they are just so ridiculous strong at a long range setting like chernarus

[Never 237]

What I meant was at least play legit,

You seem to be implying something.I left DayZ when it became Call of Hackfest. Broken mod is broken.

[Derpy_Hooves (DayZ) 4521]

L85 can kill up to 3,000m maximum range.

Effective range being 600m

Are you absolutely sure of this fact?? We were tought and trained that the weapons killing range was only up to 1200m, after that the impact of a 5.56mm round is next to nothing.

Firing the weapon as a single unit the weapon was effective accurately to 200m, as a group of 4 then 600m. it was designed with Northern Ireland in mind being the SLR at the time was too big and overpowered to be used in about towns, it's 7.62mm rounds would blast a hole through house walls no problem, so we needed something without that kind of destructive power but was still accurate and powerful enough to engage targets up to 600m under constant rapid fire. Hence the birth of the LA85 and later re-designed into the LA85 A2 (commonly known as the SA80-A2 personal assault rifle)

Edited September 24, 2012 by Derpy_Hooves

[Sula 1205]

I wouldn't be surprised if thermals were either ultra rare or removed from the end product. They tip the balance of the game quite significantly.

[Swineflew 480]

I wouldn't be surprised if thermals were either ultra rare or removed from the end product. They tip the balance of the game quite significantly.

Agreed. Right now there aren't any drawbacks. It may be balanced if they introduce batteries and make it use a lot of power or something.

[Never 237]

Agreed. Right now there aren't any drawbacks. It may be balanced if they introduce batteries and make it use a lot of power or something.

I'd like to see them gone. Along with ghille suits, and some of the more exotic military weapons.

[thelonewarrior 886]

I love my L85, but personally I hope that rocket removes thermal weapons from the standalone and only allows thermal binoculars as pretty much everyone has thermal on them or in their squad and it removes all skill from spotting people or snipers.

I could live without my L85 knowing that no one else could have it, but right now with all those AS50 thermal hacked pieces of shit I only take it to spot them and then snipe them with my faithful DMR in my pack (she has served me well for a long time and know how she handles, prefer her to the AS50)

[scoffield77@gmail.com 192]

Are you absolutely sure of this fact?? We were tought and trained that the weapons killing range was only up to 1200m, after that the impact of a 5.56mm round is next to nothing.

Firing the weapon as a single unit the weapon was effective accurately to 200m, as a group of 4 then 600m. it was designed with Northern Ireland in mind being the SLR at the time was too big and overpowered to be used in about towns, it's 7.62mm rounds would blast a hole through house walls no problem, so we needed something without that kind of destructive power but was still accurate and powerful enough to engage targets up to 600m under constant rapid fire. Hence the birth of the LA85 and later re-designed into the LA85 A2 (commonly known as the SA80-A2 personal assault rifle)

I'm not all sure with the L85 honestly, though with the M16 and a 20 inch barrel, the Max range is a bit over 3,500meters. I assumed it was the same with the L85a1 since it also has 20 inch barrel and shoots the same round. It would be safe to assume it has the same max range as the M16a4.

But the 5.56 coming out of a M16 barrel can hit a target at 3,500 meters. though the MOA is going to be the size of the sun. it is possible ;) I can't say I know this for fact is the same for the L85 but logic says it would fold over to the. Same barrel length, same bullet ;)

I'm not really talking about it's killing range, i've never shot someone at 3,000m out haha just that the bullet flies that far.

[nic0 14]

The L85 is still in the game with the thermal scope, it's not a hacked weapon.

Although i agree with you that it adds nothing to the game, if it was up to me this gun would be removed from the game ASAP.

I had one before, it's just pointless to use it, takes the fun away completely.

apologies - of course, you're right. i've seen these things before and hadn't realised they were thermals - i'd genuinely assumed ALL thermals had been removed (for being overpowered). guess i was wrong.

and, ironically, just today i found one in a heli. now i'm undecided, because i have to admit it was fun. my playstyle has morphed into avoidance, creeping around, looting helis in far-flung areas of the map and staying the hell away from high-pop areas, or any areas that might concevably contain traffic to a high-pop (like NWA).

having the thermal sights made me feel like i could avoid contact. i kept scoping around while i stopped to catch my breath. a real buzz. intense when you spot a heat-sig too - chickens and rabbits made me jump. i see what people mean about tunnel vision too - that could be a problem.

i just like to be alone, so this thing feels like an aid to that. in other hands, i'm not sure it's a good thing. and even in my case, i can't say what i might do if i saw another player lit up in the scope...would i run the other way, or...? don't know.

i think i'm kinda looking forward to getting killed and losing it, to be honest. it's fun for a while though.