zak757 146 Posted June 14, 2012 My nearby military base also has Canadian LAV-III's. Basically slightly larger LAV-25's with a few upgrades. Room in the back for lots of gear, as well as a 25mm Chaingun and 7.62mm MG3 or FN MAG on the top.Good zombie vehicle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Regardless of the type of zombie we're talking about, you still have to keep in mind that there are pirates. I'm not talking about your Captain Hook, I'm talking about the real deal. Basically water bandits. How strong are your defenses going to be? The USS Cole got a huge hole in the side of it from a small boat filled with explosives, and it was a Navy destroyer. You can't say that people wouldn't be doing that, because if you had the plan to go on the water, so did a thousand others. Some of who could be better equipped, and wouldn't mind taking your ship. There's no full-proof plan here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John (DayZ) 62 Posted June 14, 2012 As for the boat plan, protein: fish! You're on the ocean, son, get your rod out and cast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virfortis 111 Posted June 14, 2012 Juuuuust sit right back and you'll hear a taleA tale of a faithful tripThat started on this Russian portAboard this awesome shipThe mate was a veteran sharpshooterThe skipper loved survivalThey loaded up and hauled ass out of BerenzinoWith a plan to surviveThe boat sailed out to open sea, the safest place there wasIf not for the planning of our fearless crew humanity would be losthumanity would be lostThey pulled into a lagoon on an uncharted tropic isleAs it turns out, they missed the newsThe natives were immuneThey tried to run, but became stewBack on the beach, just like you!I'm gonna go ahead and apologize in advance because I'm tired, and I'll probably wake up in the morning and regret this as I'm sure it makes little sense XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunakhod 8 Posted June 14, 2012 Regardless of the type of zombie we're talking about' date=' you still have to keep in mind that there are pirates. I'm not talking about your Captain Hook, I'm talking about the real deal. Basically water bandits. How strong are your defenses going to be? The USS Cole got a huge hole in the side of it from a small boat filled with explosives. You can't say that people wouldn't be doing that, because if you had the plan to go on the water, so did a thousand others. Some of who could be better equipped, and wouldn't mind taking your ship. There's no full-proof plan here.[/quote']-Anyone with the resources to build a boat like this would have the resources to defend it. It wouldn't be difficult to mount guns on the boat, or reusable weapons like bows/crossbows. You could also have it double as a submersible, and just dive if a threat is near. Or you could simply build a ship that is extremely fast and outrun the pirates.-It is unlikely that anyone would meet eachother at sea, if you have a boat capable of being self sustaining you are not required to be near the coast. You could even go to the arctic really. There would also be no reason to be a pirate, because you can just go the self sustaining route. It isn't the same as when you're on land and you have to compete with others for resources, you already have all of them at your disposal. Saltwater and sunlight are all that is required.As for the boat plan' date=' protein: fish! You're on the ocean, son, get your rod out and cast.[/quote']You could fish, I'm just illustrating that it's not even required to be self sustaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Regardless of the type of zombie we're talking about' date=' you still have to keep in mind that there are pirates. I'm not talking about your Captain Hook, I'm talking about the real deal. Basically water bandits. How strong are your defenses going to be? The USS Cole got a huge hole in the side of it from a small boat filled with explosives. You can't say that people wouldn't be doing that, because if you had the plan to go on the water, so did a thousand others. Some of who could be better equipped, and wouldn't mind taking your ship. There's no full-proof plan here.[/quote']-Anyone with the resources to build a boat like this would have the resources to defend it. It wouldn't be difficult to mount guns on the boat, or reusable weapons like bows/crossbows. You could also have it double as a submersible, and just dive if a threat is near. Or you could simply build a ship that is extremely fast and outrun the pirates.-It is unlikely that anyone would meet eachother at sea, if you have a boat capable of being self sustaining you are not required to be near the coast. You could even go to the arctic really. There would also be no reason to be a pirate, because you can just go the self sustaining route. It isn't the same as when you're on land and you have to compete with others for resources, you already have all of them at your disposal. Saltwater and sunlight are all that is required.Submersible? Really? So now you're switching it from a boat to a submarine? And you aren't considering the fact that you don't know what kind of boat the pirates could have. Who's to say that they're after your boat, and not just equipment? You can have a worse boat than them and they'll still go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunakhod 8 Posted June 14, 2012 Regardless of the type of zombie we're talking about' date=' you still have to keep in mind that there are pirates. I'm not talking about your Captain Hook, I'm talking about the real deal. Basically water bandits. How strong are your defenses going to be? The USS Cole got a huge hole in the side of it from a small boat filled with explosives. You can't say that people wouldn't be doing that, because if you had the plan to go on the water, so did a thousand others. Some of who could be better equipped, and wouldn't mind taking your ship. There's no full-proof plan here.[/quote']-Anyone with the resources to build a boat like this would have the resources to defend it. It wouldn't be difficult to mount guns on the boat, or reusable weapons like bows/crossbows. You could also have it double as a submersible, and just dive if a threat is near. Or you could simply build a ship that is extremely fast and outrun the pirates.-It is unlikely that anyone would meet eachother at sea, if you have a boat capable of being self sustaining you are not required to be near the coast. You could even go to the arctic really. There would also be no reason to be a pirate, because you can just go the self sustaining route. It isn't the same as when you're on land and you have to compete with others for resources, you already have all of them at your disposal. Saltwater and sunlight are all that is required.Submersible? Really? So now you're switching it from a boat to a submarine? And you aren't considering the fact that you don't know what kind of boat the pirates could have. Who's to say that they're after your boat, and not just equipment? You can have a worse boat than them and they'll still go for it.Forget what I said, living on the ground/sea is for plebians.Cruise at 50,000-60,000 ft, for better sunlight and so that no one can shoot you down, unless they happen to have a high altitude interceptor or SAM :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Regardless of the type of zombie we're talking about' date=' you still have to keep in mind that there are pirates. I'm not talking about your Captain Hook, I'm talking about the real deal. Basically water bandits. How strong are your defenses going to be? The USS Cole got a huge hole in the side of it from a small boat filled with explosives. You can't say that people wouldn't be doing that, because if you had the plan to go on the water, so did a thousand others. Some of who could be better equipped, and wouldn't mind taking your ship. There's no full-proof plan here.[/quote']-Anyone with the resources to build a boat like this would have the resources to defend it. It wouldn't be difficult to mount guns on the boat, or reusable weapons like bows/crossbows. You could also have it double as a submersible, and just dive if a threat is near. Or you could simply build a ship that is extremely fast and outrun the pirates.-It is unlikely that anyone would meet eachother at sea, if you have a boat capable of being self sustaining you are not required to be near the coast. You could even go to the arctic really. There would also be no reason to be a pirate, because you can just go the self sustaining route. It isn't the same as when you're on land and you have to compete with others for resources, you already have all of them at your disposal. Saltwater and sunlight are all that is required.Submersible? Really? So now you're switching it from a boat to a submarine? And you aren't considering the fact that you don't know what kind of boat the pirates could have. Who's to say that they're after your boat, and not just equipment? You can have a worse boat than them and they'll still go for it.Forget what I said, living on the ground/sea is for plebians.Cruise at 50,000-60,000 ft, for better sunlight and so that no one can shoot you down, unless they happen to have a high altitude interceptor or SAM :PLol that could cause problems later on, but ok. xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunakhod 8 Posted June 14, 2012 Lol that could cause problems later on' date=' but ok. xD[/quote']How so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fackstah 31 Posted June 14, 2012 What're you gonna do when food and water runs out?Also' date=' we need to think about nutrition, beans aren't a cure all. In fact, in an actual survival situation, canned beans would be pretty useless.But hey, Chef Boyardee is awesome no matter what.[/quote']actually beans are very usefull in a survival situation please go back to school More than just a meat substitute, beans are so nutritious that the latest dietary guidelines recommend we triple our current intake from 1 to 3 cups per week. What makes beans so good for us? Here's what the experts have to say:Chronic conditions such as cancer, diabetes, and heart disease all have something in common. Being overweight increases your chances of developing them and makes your prognosis worse if you do, says Mark Brick, PhD -- which means that trimming your waistline does more for you than make your pants look better. Brick, a professor in the department of soil and crop sciences at Colorado State University, is investigating the ability of different bean varieties to prevent cancer and diabetes.Beans are comparable to meat when it comes to calories, says Dawn Jackson Blatner, RD, a registered dietitian at Northwestern Memorial Hospital's Wellness Institute in Chicago and a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association. But they really shine in terms of fiber and water content, two ingredients that make you feel fuller, faster. Adding beans to your diet helps cut calories without feeling deprived.Our diets tend to be seriously skimpy when it comes to fiber (the average American consumes just 15 grams daily), to the detriment of both our hearts and our waistlines. One cup of cooked beans (or two-thirds of a can) provides about 12 grams of fiber -- nearly half the recommended daily dose of 21 to 25 grams per day for adult women (30 to 38 grams for adult men). Meat, on the other hand, contains no fiber at all.This difference in fiber content means that meat is digested fairly quickly, Brick says, whereas beans are digested slowly, keeping you satisfied longer. Plus, beans are low in sugar, which prevents insulin in the bloodstream from spiking and causing hunger. When you substitute beans for meat in your diet, you get the added bonus of a decrease in saturated fat, says Blatner.Still not convinced? In a recent study, bean eaters weighed, on average, 7 pounds less and had slimmer waists than their bean-avoiding counterparts -- yet they consumed 199 calories more per day if they were adults and an incredible 335 calories more if they were teenagers.Beans have something else that meat lacks, Blatner says: phytochemicals, compounds found only in plants (phyto is Greek for "plant"). Beans are high in antioxidants, a class of phytochemicals that incapacitate cell-damaging free radicals in the body, says Brick. (Free radicals have been implicated in everything from cancer and aging to neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.)In a U.S. Department of Agriculture study, researchers measured the antioxidant capacities of more than 100 common foods. Three types of beans made the top four: small red beans, red kidney beans, and pinto beans. And three others -- black beans, navy beans, and black-eyed peas -- achieved top-40 status. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Lol that could cause problems later on' date=' but ok. xD[/quote']How so?Not really any problems with people. Just that your resources are much more limited in the air. Everything has it's limits. That's why you don't see people living in the sky, or staying on the sea their entire lives without returning to shore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toyota (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 What're you gonna do when food and water runs out?Also' date=' we need to think about nutrition, beans aren't a cure all. In fact, in an actual survival situation, canned beans would be pretty useless.But hey, Chef Boyardee is awesome no matter what.[/quote']actually beans are very usefull in a survival situation please go back to school I did'int know that beans were so healthy. You have schooled me. Thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunakhod 8 Posted June 14, 2012 Not really any problems with people. Just that your resources are much more limited in the air. Everything has it's limits. That's why you don't see people living in the sky' date=' or staying on the sea their entire lives without returning to shore.[/quote']People don't live in the sky? They don't overcome having extremely limited resources by simply being efficient and learning to recycle?There are no resources in LEO other than sunlight. On the flipside, there are many resources in the atmosphere, water vapor for instance. People survive on significantly less already.Just build a solar airship, give it a greenhouse, and way to harvest water vapor, and you're set to survive in the high atmosphere pretty much indefinitely. You can even continue refilling the airship with hydrogen from the water vapor you harvest, there isn't enough oxygen at that altitude for a "Hindenburg" incident to be possible. Zombie apocalypse avoided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fackstah 31 Posted June 14, 2012 Not really any problems with people. Just that your resources are much more limited in the air. Everything has it's limits. That's why you don't see people living in the sky' date=' or staying on the sea their entire lives without returning to shore.[/quote']People don't live in the sky? They don't overcome having extremely limited resources by simply being efficient and learning to recycle?There are no resources in LEO other than sunlight. On the flipside, there are many resources in the atmosphere, water vapor for instance. People survive on significantly less already.Just build a solar airship, give it a greenhouse, and way to harvest water vapor, and you're set to survive in the high atmosphere pretty much indefinitely. You can even continue refilling the airship with hydrogen from the water vapor you harvest, there isn't enough oxygen at that altitude for a "Hindenburg" incident to be possible. Zombie apocalypse avoided.untill gravity eventaully pulls you back into the atmosphere and you die a fiery death LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Not really any problems with people. Just that your resources are much more limited in the air. Everything has it's limits. That's why you don't see people living in the sky' date=' or staying on the sea their entire lives without returning to shore.[/quote']People don't live in the sky? They don't overcome having extremely limited resources by simply being efficient and learning to recycle?There are no resources in LEO other than sunlight. On the flipside, there are many resources in the atmosphere, water vapor for instance. People survive on significantly less already.Just build a solar airship, give it a greenhouse, and way to harvest water vapor, and you're set to survive in the high atmosphere pretty much indefinitely. You can even continue refilling the airship with hydrogen from the water vapor you harvest, there isn't enough oxygen at that altitude for a "Hindenburg" incident to be possible. Zombie apocalypse avoided.Unless you drift into Earth's atmosphere and crash into the ground. Lol plus you have to have a way to get there during the apocalypse (NASA likely won't be sending anyone up at that time lol), and you have to have the proper equipment to survive. In all honesty, that's a more flawed plan than the blimp. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunakhod 8 Posted June 14, 2012 untill gravity eventaully pulls you back into orbit LOLlolwutUnless you drift into Earth's atmosphere and crash into the ground. Lol plus you have to have a way to get there during the apocalypse (NASA likely won't be sending anyone up at that time lol)' date=' and you have to have the proper equipment to survive. In all honesty, that's a more flawed plan than the blimp. Lol[/quote']You completely misunderstood my statement. I'm talking about an airship - not a spacecraft. I only draw parallels between the two. Read the entire thread, not just that one statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 untill gravity eventaully pulls you back into orbit LOLlolwutUnless you drift into Earth's atmosphere and crash into the ground. Lol plus you have to have a way to get there during the apocalypse (NASA likely won't be sending anyone up at that time lol)' date=' and you have to have the proper equipment to survive. In all honesty, that's a more flawed plan than the blimp. Lol[/quote']You completely misunderstood my statement. I'm talking about an airship - not a spacecraft. I only draw parallels between the two. Read the entire thread, not just that one statement.Oh lol. It's probably not a good idea to post a picture of a spacecraft and then go on to explain something different. Lol Statistically, this is the best preparation gear. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunakhod 8 Posted June 14, 2012 Oh lol. It's probably not a good idea to post a picture of a spacecraft and then go on to explain something different. LolIt helps if you read everything - I only talked about spacecraft to illustrate that people can survive in confined spaces on very little resources for extreme amounts of time. You would also have to survive in a small space on low resources to survive on an airship indefinitely, albeit it would be much easier than a spacecraft. You could live through the entire zombie apocalypse without even knowing that it has ended yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera (DayZ) 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Oh lol. It's probably not a good idea to post a picture of a spacecraft and then go on to explain something different. LolIt helps if you read everything - I only talked about spacecraft to illustrate that people can survive in confined spaces on very little resources for extreme amounts of time. You would also have to survive in a small space on low resources to survive on an airship indefinitely' date=' albeit it would be much easier than a spacecraft. You could live through the entire zombie apocalypse without even knowing that it has ended yet.[/quote']Don't make parallels. I'm a straight-to-the-point kind of person. That means if you post a picture of something in space, I'm going to assume that you have something to say about space. Lol especially when you haven't been drawing parallels between any of the other images that you've posted, they've been direct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maca (DayZ) 769 Posted June 14, 2012 [attachment=847] This Is All the gun you need 4 an apocalypse... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites