It shall not punish gameplay styles

[Alexey Zemanov 6]

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Yeah, i don't know bandit skins are ridicoulus. What to do?

Form my personal experience' date=' 9 out of 10 players have adopted kill-on-sight.

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For me it is the same. I just can't run from zombies or hide from players and simultaneously type about being a friendly guy willing to share his pop tarts. Killing those guys usually does not prove to be beneficial.

P.S. I have grouped up with a lot of people.

[CongressmanAlexShrub 1]

The PvP system is flawed right now. In the past 3 days I've been killed 4 times by survivors. This needs fixing.

Be more wary when around other players?

My character has been alive for over 30 days now. I don't seem to be having this problem so many are complaining about.

Me neither. Ever since I found the NVG goggles I only play on pitch black servers and I tell you, it's like night and day! No one ever bothers me at the edge of the map where I hunt animals and drink water from ponds. Yeah, all these people complaining that they get shot by everyone else are clearly not doing what they can to get out of sight. Which is entirely what this game is about. Those who disagree are either bandits or carebears.

[DryGulch 32]

The PvP system is flawed right now. In the past 3 days I've been killed 4 times by survivors. This needs fixing.

Be more wary when around other players?

My character has been alive for over 30 days now. I don't seem to be having this problem so many are complaining about.

Me neither. Ever since I found the NVG goggles I only play on pitch black servers and I tell you' date=' it's like night and day! No one ever bothers me at the edge of the map where I hunt animals and drink water from ponds. Yeah, all these people complaining that they get shot by everyone else are clearly not doing what they can to get out of sight. Which is entirely what this game is about. Those who disagree are either bandits or carebears.

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I hate to break this to you bud but you are a carebear. But you don't moan so you're ok by me.

[imagelesskjc 35]

The PvP system is flawed right now. In the past 3 days I've been killed 4 times by survivors. This needs fixing.

Be more wary when around other players?

My character has been alive for over 30 days now. I don't seem to be having this problem so many are complaining about.

Me neither. Ever since I found the NVG goggles I only play on pitch black servers and I tell you' date=' it's like night and day! No one ever bothers me at the edge of the map where I hunt animals and drink water from ponds. Yeah, all these people complaining that they get shot by everyone else are clearly not doing what they can to get out of sight. Which is entirely what this game is about. Those who disagree are either bandits or carebears.

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Nice sarcasm. So you can tell how I play the game from three sentences? Because surely anyone that has a different experience in-game must be playing like a pussy.

[Virfortis 111]

So does abusing the respawn function' date=' using that as an excuse to kill everyone like an on-rail shooter, but you don't seem to be against that.

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First of all, I don't think you completely understand what an "on-rail shooter" actually is. Here's a hint, it's not DayZ. Timecrisis was one.

Secondly, PVP and dying is part of the mod, an integral part. I think if you look at the game engine that it is built on, you might get more of an idea. I hate that this has to be pointed out to some people, but there you go.

Lastly, it's not "abusing the respawn function", both players have an equal opportunity to win/survive the encounter. Abusing a game mechanic tends to yield an unfair advantage.

Sadly, none of this is going to get through to you.

I think you need to stop and realize that DayZ is nothing BUT PvP, zombies and survival aren't even a minimal threat, they're NOTHING.

This isn't a PvP Zombie Survival Mod, it's just another ArmA2 mod. Time will fix that. What will you do when the consequences hit? Because Rocket has always said he wants consequences (not arbitration/forcing players) to certain activities. I've heard it best from another player today.

"I don't want my debug monitor to go away because I want to know when I killed so I can wrack up more points."

That shit needs to go, yesterday. As long as kills are anything anyone cares about, we're no different than an IO survival Battlefield. When Rcoket's done, I can guarantee the same people now bashing "EZ mode" players are going to be up in arms for Rocket adding "carebear fluff" to the game because they don't want reality or hard choices, just shooting.

[JPalmer 3]

Rocket said he took out bandit skins because it was giving him trouble with updating / coding. it had nothing to do with punishing game styles or anything like that.

The problem with the "gamestyle" choices that you are all complaining / posting suggestions about is that they are only relevant if this is a game that needed balancing. It isnt. It is a multiplayer arma map with zombies' date=' thats all it is. If and when a "game" is made, then balancing playstyles and whatnot will be relevant. Until then, you are all just bitching about something that only exists in your minds / fantasy as to what thype of game this mod will become.

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It is called discussion and why this is a forum. This is what happens on forums for products that are in, pre-alpha, alpha, beta, and even final. If you don't like discussion then don't read these threads.

[DryGulch 32]

@Virfortis

When have i ever led you to believe that I do not understand the current state of the game? It's in Alpha, the latest patch notes show some changes to the zombies, I expect there will probably be more. I've got zero problem with this; they're great changes. Survival IS and zombies ARE a minimal threat, you're being hyperbolic.

What will i do when the "consequences" hit? I'll either enjoy them and continue to play or I'll roll on to a different game. I'll tell you what I won't do. I won't moan incessantly about how other people play the game. If I can't adapt my play style to how Rocket shapes Dayz or the actions of other players, then it's my fault.That is something, I think, a lot of people on this forum need to learn.

"Because Rocket has always said he wants consequences (not arbitration/forcing players) to certain activities."

I don't think you'll find me disagreeing with that in any of my posts. But to be fair, could you do me the favour of actually quoting the man and not paraphrasing, for the sake of clarity.

[WalkerDown (DayZ) 296]

If you pay a little attention to the human behavior, you would notice that any of our actions are child of the preservation of the species. From basic decision, like finding food (today money) to survive, while passing to the sex to procreate, or being scared to do certain dangerous things that may results into serious injuries or the death. Anything you do any single day, even uncounscious, is aimed to one thing: being alive .. that means to survive during a possible apocalypse, or live longer and possibly "happy" in a everyday "normal" life.

So until you give a much more importance to your life (or to your digital life in a videogame) you wouldn't find any behaviour similar to the real life. Simply as that.

How to start (or force?) people to care more about their "digital life"? Obviously loosing your game progression isn't going to work (especially if you spawn already with a weapon; and considering that the game is fullfilled of many other weapons; plus the rare loot is just a treasure hunt, it's not that a NGV makes you invicible). So what it can be done? I dunno, the proposal are many, but they are so distant from what you would do normally in a videogame (in example 24 hours respawn) that i'm not sure if they would ever be applied.

[gator (DayZ) 22]

Rocket said he took out bandit skins because it was giving him trouble with updating / coding. it had nothing to do with punishing game styles or anything like that.

The problem with the "gamestyle" choices that you are all complaining / posting suggestions about is that they are only relevant if this is a game that needed balancing. It isnt. It is a multiplayer arma map with zombies' date=' thats all it is. If and when a "game" is made, then balancing playstyles and whatnot will be relevant. Until then, you are all just bitching about something that only exists in your minds / fantasy as to what thype of game this mod will become.

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It is called discussion and why this is a forum. This is what happens on forums for products that are in, pre-alpha, alpha, beta, and even final. If you don't like discussion then don't read these threads.

I am stating my opinion that it is premature to bitch whine about something that you dont even know is broken because you havn;t seen it implemented yet. All you see is the map with zombies. You have not played teh DayZ game yet, becuase it does not yet exist.

Further, Rocket himself said he already knows what he is making, and the forums are just here to keep you busy and interested. If the forums go away, the same product will be made.