Why do YOU kill in DayZ?

[SillySil 295]

For fun. Because its fake. And not Real. And they respawn. They most they lose is time and luck.

So call me sociopathic, but then that means every FPS gamer is sociopathic, even every gamer who plays M games.

People who care about feelings of a person they defeat aka "kill" in a video game should really stop playing games that involve killing other players. For their own mental health.

[FogeyZ Gilly 15]

Everyone who is not a member of my group is an infidel and must be killed for the glory of god. It is my duty as a Mujahideen to kill the kafirs. Also I like to take their stuff. It's fun to kill infidels.

See you on the field.

[Axz 30]

I don't kill anyone bacause:

1) I'm not dumb enough to put myself in a position where encountering another player is a possiblilty.

2) In the very unlikely event of encountering another player I would rather die than kill them, I have a multitude of other games I can play, they might not, thier loss would in most cases be far worse than my loss.

3) Even if I got the chance to kill a highly geared player without him/her/Quina knowing where, when, why or what happened I would not, anything that person has I could get for myself using nothing but patience without screwing anyone over, and I am not a twat so i'd just go and get it myself.

4) Even some bandits are not killers, they might have been defending themselfs, killed bandits who where not below -5K humanity or just got it through some other bug/glitch.

If I see a bandit kill another player unprovoked then if I am armed with at least a semi-decent weapon i'd give them a taste of thier own medicine and watch them rage quit.

[SillySil 295]

I don't kill anyone bacause:

1) I'm not dumb enough to put myself in a position where encountering another player is a possiblilty.

2) In the very unlikely event of encountering another player I would rather die than kill them, I have a multitude of other games I can play, they might not, thier loss would in most cases be far worse than my loss.

3) Even if I got the chance to kill a highly geared player without him/her/Quina knowing where, when, why or what happened I would not, anything that person has I could get for myself using nothing but patience without screwing anyone over, and I am not a twat so i'd just go and get it myself.

4) Even some bandits are not killers, they might have been defending themselfs, killed bandits who where not below -5K humanity or just got it through some other bug/glitch.

If I see a bandit kill another player unprovoked then if I am armed with at least a semi-decent weapon i'd give them a taste of thier own medicine and watch them rage quit.

Who are you screwing when you kill someone in a video game again? Do you screw someone over when beating someone in a chess match too? Does it make you a twat or a bad person? No.

DayZ is a game. A competition. Survival of the fittest, free for all. People are willingly entering the competition putting on the line their characters/loot the same way you put on the line your pieces in a chess match.

It's just a game.

And I'm not telling you how to play, do whatever you find fun. But your arguments are unreal.

[Axz 30]

Who are you screwing when you kill someone in a video game again? Do you screw someone over when beating someone in a chess match too? Does it make you a twat or a bad person? No.

DayZ is a game. A competition. Survival of the fittest, free for all. People are willingly entering the competition putting on the line their characters/loot the same way you put on the line your pieces in a chess match.

It's just a game.

And I'm not telling you how to play, do whatever you find fun. But your arguments are unreal.

1) You cannot compare this game to a chess match, I know what you mean, but you're wrong, in a chess match there must be one winner and one loser (unless stale mate ofc), in DayZ everyone can win.

2) If dayZ is truly about survival, then what advantages does killing others give you? Insted of going into a quite, out of the way town to get your own stuff on a low population server with little to no risk of encountering another player and prob' not even having to fire a single shot, you get yourself a bandit skin so almost everyone will try to kill you on sight for much, much less of what you needed (food, medicine, etc) may take serious damage possible even risking your own life will almost certainly have to use up some of your ammo, maybe make some long term enemys. That sounds like a really bad move to me.

3) I know it's a game and ofc people can PvP if they want, but survival of the fittest doesn't mean you can kill whoever you want whenever you want. As human beings our survival is based majoritly on intelligence not physical atributes, and surely an intelligent person would not want to screw over another person who is in exactly the same boat as them for too many reason to list here.

As Carton Banks said "I'm running the same race as you, so why are you tripping me up?"

EDIT: This isn't a argument, this is what my intelligence tells me would be the best way of playing for everyone involved, putting aside my own greed and laziness for the benifit of others. Ofc this is just the way I do it, I can't exspect everyone to understand and play like me. They can play how they want, I just prefer to play nice and not screw over others.

Edited September 8, 2012 by Axz

[SpecOpsScott 20]

Im not a huge fan of killing other players, but sometimes its unavoidable, or im caught off guard and react with a hail of bullets. I try to immerse myself in the game and play it as close to the theme of the game as i can. I would rather help humanity than kill it. But sometimes the years of playing Battlefield poke through. The only time that i am legitimately primed to kill is when we are looting high value areas. I think those areas are kos no matter what, i could be wrong, but thats been my experience.

Short Story.

I was inspecting some tents at a player camp on Lesnoy Krebhet. Just as i exited the gear screen at the first tend, some guy spawns in right in front of me. Ghillie suit and DMR usually means bad news, at least that is the stereotype, so i reacted and lit him up. I didnt want to kill anyone, so i got out of there leaving his loot untouched. I then posted an apology on the map at the location i killed him.

Figured i would try to intercept him on the way back to his body, to at least escort him to it if he would take the offer. I found a great spot with over watch of a lot of areas that he might travel to get back. As we made our way to the top of this peak, i spot another ghullie guy with a DMR. I watch him for a few seconds and could have sworn he saw my bud and drew a bead on him..... i lit him up at this point. Again, i felt bad as i really don't want to kill anyone. Posted a message on the map to apologize to him as well. He actually responded with a "would have been nice if you said hi in chat". Thought that was pretty positive. I stuck around that area for a while and heard a dirt bike whizzing up and down the fields close by, eventually going right by me. As it did i heard hooting and hollering in direct chat. Funny as hell actually, so i responded in chat that it was. Turns out, this guy was the second guy i shot and he was looking for me. I stepped out on the road, apologized profusely about killing him..... and his friend. I offered one of my guns and my assistance with whatever plans they had. I fully expected to get shot and looted right there. But things didn't go that way, we sat and talked for about a half an hour before his over watch (the first guy i killed) came down out of the trees and joined the conversation. We ended up being friends. Although we don't always roll together we do exchange info and invite each other on missions. Kudos to those guys for giving me a second chance, im not sure i would have been so understanding, but id like to think i would. That was a couple of weeks ago, haven't shot another player since, but have let many pass.

[Targeter_NL 39]

If I kill them they can't kill me.

[SillySil 295]

1) You cannot compare this game to a chess match, I know what you mean, but you're wrong, in a chess match there must be one winner and one loser (unless stale mate ofc), in DayZ everyone can win.

I compared it to a chess match not for it's similarities of rules but just to show both are games. And beating other people in a game doesn't make you a bad person, nor it is a dick move. Put any free for all board game in place of chess and it makes perfect sense. And the there's gotta be a winner. There isn't an end to DayZ. Staying alive each day is a win.

2) If dayZ is truly about survival, then what advantages does killing others give you? Insted of going into a quite, out of the way town to get your own stuff on a low population server with little to no risk of encountering another player and prob' not even having to fire a single shot, you get yourself a bandit skin so almost everyone will try to kill you on sight for much, much less of what you needed (food, medicine, etc) may take serious damage possible even risking your own life will almost certainly have to use up some of your ammo, maybe make some long term enemys. That sounds like a really bad move to me.

Let's count advantages and disadvantages.

+ eliminating potential threat (maybe you'll shot me the moment you spot me, maybe you already see me and you're telling your friends where I am),

+ I get to take all your stuff (don't need to scavenge myself, maybe I won't even need to go to a hospital and we know that hospitals are dangerous places, and if you have a better gun than me, I don't need to go to dangerous places like stary to find it PLUS with a better gun I have better chances of fighting back if my group gets shot at)

+ firefights are fun in this game, but that's just my opinion.

- I make sound (people around know that there's someone there in my general direction, however shots also scare away people)

- I loose some ammo (but if I keep killing people I will stumble upon someone who has the type of ammo I need)

- I loose opportunity to make friends (I'm already playing with a group of friends so not really looking for one, and the chance that I'll just get backstabbed is just too great for me, I'd rather not risk it)

- I get the bandit skin (I assume everyone is a threat anyway, doesn't change anything for me)

I could be staying away from any danger but that would make the game boring. I can take a hatchet, a water bottle, a knife, and some matches and survive indefinitely in a forest somewhere (provided I don't get killed by cheaters). I'd rather have some challenge in it. And putting your life in hands of a stranger and hoping that's he's not gonna backstab you is not a challenge.

Killing someone on sight is the safest thing to do. And the downsides are almost non-existent. You can't even call it a trade off.

3) I know it's a game and ofc people can PvP if they want, but survival of the fittest doesn't mean you can kill whoever you want whenever you want. As human beings our survival is based majoritly on intelligence not physical atributes, and surely an intelligent person would not want to screw over another person who is in exactly the same boat as them for too many reason to list here.

As a human being sure. As a player in a free for all competition, no. Again refer to the board game. I'm not screwing you over. We've entered a free for all competition. I've beaten you to continue playing. It's nothing personal you just were in my way.

As Carton Banks said "I'm running the same race as you, so why are you tripping me up?"

Because if I don't do it first there is a good chance you will. And I have nothing to loose by doing it so why not do it just in case.

EDIT: This isn't a argument, this is what my intelligence tells me would be the best way of playing for everyone involved, putting aside my own greed and laziness for the benifit of others. Ofc this is just the way I do it, I can't exspect everyone to understand and play like me. They can play how they want, I just prefer to play nice and not screw over others.

I don't consider DayZ to be a coop game. Come on if everyone would be friendly (and there were no cheaters) you just wouldn't die. You'd get all the loot, fly helis for few hours and get bored of it. Zombies are no challenge. Without PvP this game would get boring after 1 day.

And you know, since there are more pros than cons to killing on sight, I have every reason to believe this game isn't coop.

[Chimaera 68]

I kill them because if i didn't they would kill me.

Plain and simple

I used to let people pass by i wont now as a good deed gets punished by some idiot, so i just kill em all the second i see them.

[Axz 30]

I compared it to a chess match not for it's similarities of rules but just to show both are games. And beating other people in a game doesn't make you a bad person, nor it is a dick move. Put any free for all board game in place of chess and it makes perfect sense. And the there's gotta be a winner. There isn't an end to DayZ. Staying alive each day is a win.

Let's count advantages and disadvantages.

+ eliminating potential threat (maybe you'll shot me the moment you spot me, maybe you already see me and you're telling your friends where I am),

+ I get to take all your stuff (don't need to scavenge myself, maybe I won't even need to go to a hospital and we know that hospitals are dangerous places, and if you have a better gun than me, I don't need to go to dangerous places like stary to find it PLUS with a better gun I have better chances of fighting back if my group gets shot at)

+ firefights are fun in this game, but that's just my opinion.

- I make sound (people around know that there's someone there in my general direction, however shots also scare away people)

- I loose some ammo (but if I keep killing people I will stumble upon someone who has the type of ammo I need)

- I loose opportunity to make friends (I'm already playing with a group of friends so not really looking for one, and the chance that I'll just get backstabbed is just too great for me, I'd rather not risk it)

- I get the bandit skin (I assume everyone is a threat anyway, doesn't change anything for me)

I could be staying away from any danger but that would make the game boring. I can take a hatchet, a water bottle, a knife, and some matches and survive indefinitely in a forest somewhere (provided I don't get killed by cheaters). I'd rather have some challenge in it. And putting your life in hands of a stranger and hoping that's he's not gonna backstab you is not a challenge.

Killing someone on sight is the safest thing to do. And the downsides are almost non-existent. You can't even call it a trade off.

As a human being sure. As a player in a free for all competition, no. Again refer to the board game. I'm not screwing you over. We've entered a free for all competition. I've beaten you to continue playing. It's nothing personal you just were in my way.

Because if I don't do it first there is a good chance you will. And I have nothing to loose by doing it so why not do it just in case.

I don't consider DayZ to be a coop game. Come on if everyone would be friendly (and there were no cheaters) you just wouldn't die. You'd get all the loot, fly helis for few hours and get bored of it. Zombies are no challenge. Without PvP this game would get boring after 1 day.

And you know, since there are more pros than cons to killing on sight, I have every reason to believe this game isn't coop.

1) Let's get this established early, I NEVER exspose myself to anyone besdies medics on rare occasions, and even then i'm on edge. If I ever see anyone I just get the hell out of there ASAP, if he wants to try and kill me that's his choice and right, but as I said I would rather be killed for no reason than kill for no reason. And to kill someone on sight who hasn't seen you is a dick move, it's allowed but that doesn't change the fact that there would be roughly a 90% that you could get away easily and safetly without harm, in my books that's a dick move, ofc it's all circumstancial but how often do these rare random encounters in the wilderness involve a squad, heli' or something that posses a real threat? Very, VERY rarely. (Unless you are going out looking for them, in which case it's your own fault.)

2) It's not a FFA game, it's a survival game with the option of FFA, it also has the option of co-op but that doesn't make it a co-op game, you have the choice of killing someone or not killing him and getting out of there.

3) If I am in a position where I can kill you then that's your fault, putting yourself in a position where you can be killed and then killing others saying "He could have killed me." is pretty ridiculas.

4) Killing on sight is a huge generlisation, if you see a lone survivor at 400 yards heading in another direction who hasn't seen you you wouldn't kill him would you? If by KoS you mean people you sneak up behind you without letting you know then yes ofc kill him, or someone lying in ghillie on a hill aiming at chero' then yes ofc kill him.

But if you are running through the wilderness and another survivor bumps into you you could be a nice guy and attempt to find a way where you both survive, or not, you can do what you like, but you ARE screwing someone over if you kill them without good reason, you can try to dress it up all you want but you can't polish a turd. I've been playing nearly 2 months and encountered many players and we both walked away without a single shot fired. The only time i've died from a bandit was down to my own stupidty, shooting zombies knowing there was another player in the area, he must have thought I was shooting at him. (I was a noob back then.)

EDIT: Killing another player who has shown no hostility just because "You have nothing to lose." is...... Well, read it back and you tell me.

Edited September 8, 2012 by Axz

[Bearded McGee 121]

For my safety once because someone didn't reply to my calls.

second time yesterday to an ass bandit that had the jump on me, from the back, TWICE, and I still got him (shouldnt have used a PP-19 on me, AKS Kobra > PP-19 Bison)

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

I play with a group of up to 10 different people, one if us is always missing something and you might have it.

That and I love PVP.

[Welch (DayZ) 756]

Why do I kill?

Paranoia.

[SixZoSeven 20]

Personally, I kill because it is exciting. Lets say you spot someone way of in the distance. You press "b" and notice that he is 500m away and has a hatchet. BORING! He poses no threat so killing him wont be fun. If he were part of a three man team and they had as50's and m4's, then it would be exciting knowing that you have a higher chance of losing all your good stuff.

Loot is nice too. :D

Edited September 8, 2012 by SixZoSeven

[- Valkyrie - 89]

Because it is my job in this game, being a Medic Escort.

[Herr Robert 28]

Because it is fun. Simple as that.

[narwaljunior 18]

If the person I see is a bandit, I will normally kill them if they are armed. My code of Dayz is to never shoot an unarmed person (unless they are running for something I own). I'll call out friendly if it is a survivor and will defend myself if aimed at. Most of the time it leads to my death, but w/e. I've had my fair share of killing and sniper play.

Edited September 8, 2012 by Hoodedmonster

[blommas 4]

Loot, and everybody kills eachother, so I do it for my own best.

[Jackftw 310]

Because I like making bandits cry, and ALT-F4 like little bitches.

[SadPanda (DayZ) 181]

The loot is the only reason why I'd kill someone, unless they're a threat to me.

[Dr. Shepherds 11]

Because it is my job in this game, being a Medic Escort.

@Valkyrie I had never heard of a medic escort. In fact until today I did not even know people played as medics. Nice to meet you sir!!

My answer would be in a time of self-defense...

Edited September 9, 2012 by Dr. Shepherds

[Questing 0]

Are you replying to every post here, OP? Anyway, I usually don't kill people. Now that I have endgamed, I am much less liberal with my murdering. The only people I don't kill are bambis. Everyone else is going the fuck down.

[SillySil 295]

1) Let's get this established early, I NEVER exspose myself to anyone besdies medics on rare occasions, and even then i'm on edge. If I ever see anyone I just get the hell out of there ASAP, if he wants to try and kill me that's his choice and right, but as I said I would rather be killed for no reason than kill for no reason. And to kill someone on sight who hasn't seen you is a dick move, it's allowed but that doesn't change the fact that there would be roughly a 90% that you could get away easily and safetly without harm, in my books that's a dick move, ofc it's all circumstancial but how often do these rare random encounters in the wilderness involve a squad, heli' or something that posses a real threat? Very, VERY rarely. (Unless you are going out looking for them, in which case it's your own fault.)

We're all in a competition here. Beating someone in a game isn't a dick move. I could let people live but that would put me at a disadvantage. I don't know what the guy's gonna do once he spots me. Maybe he already sees me and he's telling his friends where I am while he acts all friendly? Maybe he's friendly only to a moment when I turn my back to him? Better safe than sorry.

2) It's not a FFA game, it's a survival game with the option of FFA, it also has the option of co-op but that doesn't make it a co-op game, you have the choice of killing someone or not killing him and getting out of there.

It's still FFA, even if grouping is allowed. And yeah I have a choice. I can choose between the most profitable thing to do and the less profitable and more dangerous things to do.

3) If I am in a position where I can kill you then that's your fault, putting yourself in a position where you can be killed and then killing others saying "He could have killed me." is pretty ridiculas.

What? First, you can be killed anywhere at any time. There can be someone even in a middle of a forest. Second, he might not be in a position to kill me yet, he might be going there tho, better off him before he does have a chance of killing me. Third, "if I'm in a position to kill the guy and it's his fault", not mine.

4) Killing on sight is a huge generlisation, if you see a lone survivor at 400 yards heading in another direction who hasn't seen you you wouldn't kill him would you? If by KoS you mean people you sneak up behind you without letting you know then yes ofc kill him, or someone lying in ghillie on a hill aiming at chero' then yes ofc kill him.

But if you are running through the wilderness and another survivor bumps into you you could be a nice guy and attempt to find a way where you both survive, or not, you can do what you like, but you ARE screwing someone over if you kill them without good reason, you can try to dress it up all you want but you can't polish a turd. I've been playing nearly 2 months and encountered many players and we both walked away without a single shot fired. The only time i've died from a bandit was down to my own stupidty, shooting zombies knowing there was another player in the area, he must have thought I was shooting at him. (I was a noob back then.)

He has a gun and I don't know his intentions, maybe he has things that I might use. Good enough reason to kill him. Especially if there is no downside to it.