ImaffoI 22 Posted October 22, 2012 I was one of the clan members banned. Though battle eye, anti hax, your logs w.e can not show where I have ever used any program at all. I'm not crying over getting banned, as I not going to deny, I know people in my group were using a simple firefox map hack.Nuff said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fearz0r 128 Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) To the forum admins; apologies for the multiple posts. I had to make my response to his points, but wasn't allowed to in one post.I was one of the clan members banned. Though battle eye, anti hax, your logs w.e can not show where I have ever used any program at all. I'm not crying over getting banned, as I not going to deny, I know people in my group were using a simple firefox radar hack.I would normally end my reply here. I appreciate the fact that you kind of admit that your group used cheats.However you go on to say;But if you honestly believe Burro/ Drake, as well as quite a few others (lunawolfy/ted (burros roommate. a couple others) were NOT using hacks or map finders, then you are a serious fool. Simple logic in DAYZ: Good players / bad players / great players/ can not just magically track and kill on a low pop server, where MOST of you guys stay in the south in your safety nets. NON hacking players will always die in pvp, Hence until 2 days ago, when sure someone in my group used a radar hack to track TED / Fudge/ Sanatana (all which ALSO use hacks/ be it map radar OR the admin panel), why didnt we kill ANY of the rest of you guys? Why was it, in our 2 months there the ONLY people we killed shot at us first... Boy that is some serious hacking there. Why is it Luna/ FODDER(burro)/ Ted/ Cal / Fudge could log in for a short short period of time, find players. call them out by name, kill them, then just log off? (with no name plates in game btw) You think they were ThAT good? If you do, you deserve to play on that server.You are such a poor loser mate. You ranted about this in your private forum; the skill level of players that can LOG IN, find you asap, kill you and log out... Come on, that is total BS. Today, oddly enough, we camped (all under different names) brezenio, for over 45 minutes. NOTHING. The server resets and somehow, within in a 10 minute span someone just "appears" by us and kills everyone, each person many many meters apart. LUCKY? Maybe. SKILLED? Maybe How the HELL did they get to that spot so fast? Who knows....Its simple. I will NOT deny the last day (after Ted (burros friend and room-mate just happened to log in between all of us, in the dark and knew where everyone was) No one on by name, but knew to wait almost 20 minutes to kill the last 2 clan mates. Me i was just a dumbass running wild, i deserved to die.I then worked on the backend until 3:15 am going through the logs for you. I reply stating that Ted joined the server on the restart, was actually the first person in. He had last logged off in Berezino at his tents (where your clan magically cleaned out the night before) and started heading in land. He found an SUV about 200 meters in land, previously crashed, and looted it. While this was going on, you and several others joined the server. One of your guys spawned in near Ted, and proceeded to run towards the SUV, where ted saw and killed him. It then looked like Ted was camping your SUV. Sure enough a couple minutes after another person from your group came running in, looking for the downed body. Ted shot him too. Then as he was leaving, the last member of your group ran across an OPEN field towards the SUV and Ted and sure enough, Ted killed him too. You all then DC'd and failed to see his reply in Sidechat. It's not a conspiracy, it's just three players being a bit too carefree and rushing a player camping a car. knew to wait almost 20 minutes to kill the last 2 clan matesIf you're going to try and reference things, at least try to be accurate. You all died within 20 minutes, TOTAL! Don't believe me? I posted this in my reply to your rant.This is taken from our kill-feed (a cool feature we have). Mr P was first to die at 22:38. Corvo died while looking for his body, and you died, as you put it, by "running wild" just over one minute later. Edited October 23, 2012 by Burro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fearz0r 128 Posted October 22, 2012 Why is it, BURRO and DRAKE knew Luna could track uids, and talked to them even though they were on different names and told no one who they were? Why was that allowed to happen.Why did BURRO admit he KNEW people were duping and hacking, and that a hacked tent up north was "a mistake" (was cals tent apparently) and nothing was done?Not quite true, I didn't "know" anything, I suspected. This was corrected by the fact that one of our staff gave away my alias to some players while I was on. I played under an alias so I could actually get some game time in without being asked a bunch of questions or requests. I didn't say it was hacking. I said I knew there was duping happening. I also said that duping was found to be occurring on failed server restarts. I never said it was Cal's tent as this was post their removal from the server.one of our members got a radar. We then watched players run only to our tents and our hidden vehicles. Wierd why was that allowed to happen? After that sure we didnt care what happened to us, so we radar tracked Santana and fudge. No one in my clan will deny that. But the admins will sure as hell deny they did or knew any of their friends did anything wrong.It's one thing to cheat and not fess up when we gave you the chance, it's another to make it seem like it was a "last resort" and that you were legit before then, and so now you feel others should steer clear of our server. You're acting like a child. You're 33 years old Nick, it's about time you realise what you're doing and move on. You were found guilty of cheating. You've now confessed that. Why are you still trying to win others over and drive them away from our server? All you're really doing is embarrassing yourself and showing others that we do ban players that cheat.And if you felt you were "out smarting" us, by trying to set us up, i must take one second to LOL, Hence the final touch to your BS ways to use your friends infamous closing line. Yes, this was ironic and clever, but only served to prove your guilt.If you are considering playing on PDR, know this, admins and their friends will use esp hacks and radar (via hacks or panel). I suggest you do what we did, fight fire with fire, get your OWN way of tracking them:Don't speak rubbish Nick. We have an admin panel. We tracked you and your clan with this panel and we used the data and map display as evidence to permanently ban you from our server. You really should stop here to be honest mate. We have this data and videos of your clan tracking and flanking players from over 3km's away, all while looking directly at their target. We could, if we wanted to, provide this to Battleye to let them decide what to do with you lot, we won't though, unless you continue to bash us even after confirming your guilt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fearz0r 128 Posted October 22, 2012 Who you quoting? Cause i can promise you i said nothing of the sorts. Wait are you quoting a guy who hasn't been online in almost 7-10days? So, heres some facts for you. The first time Burro accused ME PERSONALLY of cheating, I invited him to hang out with me one night, and Kovan and I would SHOW HIM, exactly how we play.... Turned down.Nick, you cannot make a statement like "here's some facts for you" and then proceed to not list any. Firstly, I never once "accused" you of hacking. Not once. Why? because I was too busy building up a case to ban you to blow it all by simply calling you a cheater. Plus that's not my style. I don't point fingers without knowing 100% that my facts are accurate. You'd do well taking the same approach. Secondly, you offered me to join you if I was interested. I wasn't. I wasn't because A) it would prove nothing, and B) I was busy watching you lot from the console.I offered a way to show even if LUNA wasn't a cheater (which as you found out, he was) he was bad for the community, but YOU and Burro let him stay. The VOTE passed him out:We never said we found him guilty. We didn't have the tools at the time. Your clan leader Noah Ash claimed to have undeniable proof sourced from his "friend" who made an "anti-hack" tool to list scripters, but he never came up with the proof. Drake made the poll to see what the community wanted, that is why they were removed.I offered AND DID put EVERYTHING me/clan did in our personal forums, so you could track us. Then Im dictated how I need to conduct myself, even though i said remove me from council..Jeeez.. you were not dictated to Nick. I simply asked that as a council member you composed yourself a little better as you represented the forum, the server and the administration. This was in reply to your comments about flattening another players tents and blowing up their vehicles, where you said Sure enough Concrete WAS FURIOUS, so much so he logged out after he realized it sucks to be shit on. LOVE the new rules. Fuck himI then pm'd you this;Personal issues with others aside, you're representative of the council and of the administration of this server. If you continue on this open assault with Concrete and Ripsaw, we'll have to reconsider your role on the council. I DON'T want this to happen so please drop this petty BS with those two. I'm not interested in who started what or who said what, as a council member you're immediately placed above this kind of crap, you need to address it as a council member if it becomes a real issue, and by that I mean bring it up with the council and discuss how to deal with it. I personally don't see this as dictating. I'm asking you to take your role more seriously. Your clan and your response was to then create a thread in your forum stating; Do Not Use This ForumApparently, this forum is not solely for HsH members. This forum is being monitored by not only the Admins, but also the other members of the Council. Just go back to communicating the way we used to: Skype only. :facepalm: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fearz0r 128 Posted October 22, 2012 I offered "suggestions" on how and why so many items where duped and how you could tell hackers: Fell on def ears and excuses made.You just blamed others. You gave no reasoning behind this, which is why we didn't really do anything about it. Nick, you raged a lot on our server/forum. It was hard telling what was you being angry and what was you trying to help.I personally took claim for what was in the rules but called "griefing": (blowing up cars) Fell on def ears.My group was non stop targeted with BS accusations, which we proved wrong everytime: Finally in last 2 days, after ANOTHER miracle killing spree by an admins newbie flatmate: We fought fire with fire:There's absolutely nothing in the rules that commented on blowing up cars. We only added a rule because you and your clan instantly went into players camps on day one of the new rules and wiped out all their cars, even when they were there. You killed one of our players with a script that instantly blew up all their vehicles at once. And it wasn't proved wrong every time, we banned you with a case built up over time. They was no denying what you did. That's not being proved wrong mate, that being proved right. I already explained how Ted was able to pwn you all so won't go into it again.Sorry, When you and burro even admitted you guys knew there was something up, and did nothing about, but continued to let BS happen, well at that point, we took matters into our own hands... HOW ODD that guys "cheating and hacking" never raided but the SAME 2-3 duper tents we told you we found, and it was "we know its an issue" How ODD we never killed anyone other then the last guy, we KNEW we were getting set up, that DIDN'T attack us first. How ODD we offered you ways to track us and find out how we play... Wow what a bunch of non stop hackers.I can tell you were angry when writing this bit because it really doesn't make much sense. You made a post in your private forum that "some guy" had placed 2 sets of nvg's and an AS50 in a tent in Berezino. This was Ted. I told you this. You mentioned you would clear it out, save it and then destroy it. I had told you several times before that on restart servers can restore tents. This was the "known" issue you commented on. The funny thing is, you steal 2 sets of nvg's and an AS50 and then claim that that person was a hacker/duper, but fail to see that they have in fact done the exact same thing as you, they robbed others, and stored their loot in their own tent. It's not that unbelievable..You Sir have used a flawed logic. You didnt set anyone up. We were already DONE, when i posted i thought it was fcked up how Ted and others always seem to track us. i personally called you guys out, and not once did you have anything but some round about bs answer. So your logic is to go ask the guys Everyone SWORE wasnt cheating to help you cheat? LOL amazingly stupid.Oh come on Nick, we both know you lot had no idea. You played into our sting the way we had planned, not because you were "already done". You're only fooling yourself, with your own "flawed logic". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fearz0r 128 Posted October 22, 2012 Heres a tip: You can see on your admin screen. Which you AND burro used.Guy logs in 3k south of you, and you head right to him. Reaching him with minutes after you log. Anti-hack found that out GG burro I don't see the tip here Nick? Also, "anti-hack"? Come on Nick, call it what it is. First of all you guys tell me Anti-hack is a log parser that looks for scripts that aren't meant to be in the game, then its a "simple firefox map hack" and now its suddenly an all seeing all knowing tracker. Simple fact is you used a variety of cheats on our server. As part of my strategy in catching you and your clan, I would use my admin panel to follow you and watch your behaviour. Sure enough, you'd react to me approaching for 3km out and retreat or get a vehicle to exfill from the Bandit Land. Guy logs in or comes to stary, spawns zombies, magically with sec zombies disappear and player kills a camped player: Fudge did that 2x: No hack needed or used to know thats BS.Guy logs in magically in the middle of three players, ALL different names, ptich black 1000 meters around, is "smart" enough to wait around for 25 from 1st to 2nd kill, and knows to stay there for 3rd kill and few minutes later, logs out... Just another case of you or your team being killed and getting bent out of shape about it. Just like when Ted killed you all. This makes me laugh, your timings are getting longer and longer. You previously said Ted waited 20 minutes to finish off the last two of your team, and now say that it was 25 minutes, and stays a few minutes more to kill the last. There was 10 minutes between the first and second, and this is what is known as "camping". There was just over 1 minute between the 2nd and 3rd. There was not 1000 meters around either. You work it out mate. The kill feed I showed you showed the coordinates. The first two were close enough for a kill with the M4 SD (approximately 100 meters) and you were killed about 250 meters from him with his DMR (unzoomed he told me). He was hardly a noob Nick. Two of the three he killed were running towards him! Lastly, he didn't suddenly log off, you three DC'd about 5 minutes after this, Ted remained on for a further 20 minutes, killing another player in Berezino (who didn't p!ss and moan and call him a cheater). No hack needed to know what happen there: "blind luck" ok Blind luck if it was the admins friend. And after that happened, yeah thats when someone went online to fight your bs antics with our own...Btw: You wanna globally ban me? Please try, because heres a SMALL bit of reality that should slap you in the face: I don't have any programs at all or never had any at all, i personally dont use scripts, hacks, duping. etc, but we tell who had what, or maybe you are to stupid to remember that? We told you who and how we tracked LUNA. Ill say it again when it was evident you, burro, luna, ted, cal: All of you use scripts/ admin panels to play dirty, then we just used the same things back to you guys.You have made several comments here admitting to cheating. You come on these boards and bash our server and our admin. You write slanderous comments and can provide no proof to anything you've claimed, and you still believe that we all cheat. Why don't you cut your loses and move on. Join a new server or better still use your own server, the one you said you had. The simple fact is, you cheated, you were banned, end of. Sorry to those of you who are genuinely interested in our server. It is a cool place to game. It's still young and we're still working out the bad eggs from the good ones. I hope this doesn't put any of you off. Burro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noxiousd 31 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Scratch my original message Edited November 12, 2012 by Noxiousd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meltbox360 0 Posted April 25, 2013 All this aside is this server still around. It was fun but I stopped playing way back when messy stuff was happening.-Karol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites