I really don't get the setup of rules for this game. Everyone gets screwed.

[Toft 61]

shouldnt we just wait for the standalone game, and hope it has better security ? and maybe it will use punkbuster instead of BattlGay.

because i think most of us is gonna move on to the standalone game, wich should come in the form of a beta later this year.

and then just cross our fingers that its gonna be A LOT harder to hack etc. ? because of the Arma 2 engine, every solution will be almost like trying too cover a turd, by putting sprinkles on it..

so instead of using sick amounts of time to find a solution for this turd ( arma2 engine ) then focus on making the standalone game, even more safe and efficient in banning hacking kiddies.

well thats just my opinion.

[gywidion@msn.com 80]

Nope, I'm not trolling at all. Nore am I raging or crying. I'm just saying that I don't understand why admins are punished by blacklisting if they tr to protect their server by locking it or anything like that. Its just asinine to me.

Well you cannot read, so you will never understand.

Lemme try AGAIN

Say you wanna buy a house in a nice pretty neighborhood. With me?

It has a HOA.

You can Accept the HOA terms or gtfo. Got it?

Say you accept the terms, and move in. Later you decide you do not like rule 123 as it says you cannot do (Insert whatever).

You decide to do (whatever).

You ass is kicked ot of the HOA!!!

There ya go. Folks agree to terms. Does not matter how batshit crazy they are, no one is under a gun to accept them.

Bitching about somthing you agree to do is really childish. Seriously. Go try that stuff in real life, you'll get laughed at.

[dollada06 (DayZ) 32]

well good for you thts the way things go you wanna change things , why not go into your local community and give a fuck there coz no one here does :D

Thank you for contributing to this, or any thread, in the only way you know how. Did you practice being as big of an internet tool as you are or does it just come natually to you?

[rogue246 28]

shouldnt we just wait for the standalone game, and hope it has better security ? and maybe it will use punkbuster instead of BattlGay.

because i think most of us is gonna move on to the standalone game, wich should come in the form of a beta later this year.

and then just cross our fingers that its gonna be A LOT harder to hack etc. ? because of the Arma 2 engine, every solution will be almost like trying too cover a turd, by putting sprinkles on it..

so instead of using sick amounts of time to find a solution for this turd ( arma2 engine ) then focus on making the standalone game, even more safe and efficient in banning hacking kiddies.

well thats just my opinion.

There's not a game ever made free of hackers and this standalone won't be any different. This game is very attractive to hackers as it offers more chances for hackers to create havoc. I'd dare say this game is a hackers paradise so I think you are all living in dream land if you think hackers won't get around the protection very quickly. I'd give them 24 hours before a hack is released for the standalone. They for better or worse are here to stay.

@katniss

I like your analogies and they are spot on.

@ the crybabies.

Simple solution, If you don't like how the game is played then find another game to play or go create your own. Sure this mod has it's problems but honestly? It's a free "mod" not a polished finished product. When you go out to the store and spend your hard earned $$ on a game then you -might- have the option to complain. What you purchased was ArmA2 and that works just fine. It's your choice to install a free mod so don't cry when the free mod doesn't work -exactly- the way you envisioned.

In the real world most people are happy to have something for free and most 1/2 smart people understand if it doesn't work perfect. After all it's FREE!

Edited August 28, 2012 by Rogue1

[dollada06 (DayZ) 32]

Well you cannot read, so you will never understand.

Lemme try AGAIN

Say you wanna buy a house in a nice pretty neighborhood. With me?

It has a HOA.

You can Accept the HOA terms or gtfo. Got it?

Say you accept the terms, and move in. Later you decide you do not like rule 123 as it says you cannot do (Insert whatever).

You decide to do (whatever).

You ass is kicked ot of the HOA!!!

There ya go. Folks agree to terms. Does not matter how batshit crazy they are, no one is under a gun to accept them.

Bitching about somthing you agree to do is really childish. Seriously. Go try that stuff in real life, you'll get laughed at.

What an awful analogy ROFL. What you are saying is pointless because the situation at hand in the game would be equal to there being rampant crime and people stepping up to combat it whic WOULD happen.

What you are doing is being that nerdy littlebookworm standing there saing "heyyyy you can't build a fence, its part of the ruuuuules." As your own house is getting robbed because you follow arcane rules that facilitate the problem.

If you foing to use an anaogy use one that actually works full swing.

[manseedcannon 5]

it seems to me that the OP feels entitled to a lot more than what hes actually entitled to.

[Womb Raider 92]

That is the story of everyone at this point unfortnately.

No, that is your story not MINE or others. Stop making stupid baseless claims.

I do feel for server owners and admins though, it must be difficult having to put up with all the bullshit. But it doesn't help when you have certain server owners or admins saying stupid fucking childish replies like Shut up leech, I pay for this I can do what I want.

Sadly the best bet is to have as active admins as you can and I know that is easier said than done or go to a private hive.

Tonight I played on a proper server and got repeatedly dropped from the sky and nuked. I went on a private hive, had no problems from hackers and actually met friendly people.

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Admins are not forced to pay for server that connects to the hive. They agree to terms in order to do so, big difference. They in effect read the terms and say sure and that is that.

If I buy a car, I do not just get to ignore the law cuz I paid for it, same with my gun. Can't shoot some dude cuz he knocks on the door.

I cannot go in to a school and hang cuz I pay property taxes.

There are reasons those terms for server control are there.

Hmmm You're talking apples and oranges, it's just not on the same level.

[gywidion@msn.com 80]

What an awful analogy ROFL. What you are saying is pointless because the situation at hand in the game would be equal to there being rampant crime and people stepping up to combat it whic WOULD happen.

What you are doing is being that nerdy littlebookworm standing there saing "heyyyy you can't build a fence, its part of the ruuuuules." As your own house is getting robbed because you follow arcane rules that facilitate the problem.

If you foing to use an anaogy use one that actually works full swing.

Nope, does not matter.

Skiddies spinning scripts cannot be fixed in the mod. This is known.

Again, you buy a House in a crime ridden hood with a HOA and try some stuff that breaks the rules, you are out. Real life.

You can try a community watch, sure. That is what server admins are doing, the community ban thing. They are stepping up but staying within the rules of the terms set. Very good observation.

Go read up on contracts and agreements. In real life they agreed to terms, Real life, not pretend.

Skiddies are not something that will go away, it is part of the Game engine that cannot be changed without breaking the game.

Admins can take their stuff off the hive and smash skiddies all they want. I support this.

And yes, I am pretty fucking smart, thank you. :D I might like you now.

[gywidion@msn.com 80]

Hmmm You're talking apples and oranges, it's just not on the same level.

Read my HOA one, I thought it worked better, that one there is a bit off I do agree.

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

The community ban list is absolutely silly. The fact that it even exists shows how little authority server owners have over their own server. They can't lock the server and make it private or the get blacklisted. They can't ouright kick suspected hckers or they get reported for BS admin abuse on these forums and get potentiall blacklisted anyway.

The server reporting is a pain in the fits for sure, but what goes on Publicly and privately are two different things.

Furthermore, the remote repository and MBL is one of the better features of PB, often vastly more effective than global bans. In many ways the CBL isn't much different.