FR35 - strongly suspected admin abuse - msg to their admins

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

hey.

last night the helicopter got stolen by us. it was ours now.

to the guy who "found" it...

I highly doubt you went there on a regular trip, especially just this morning, just in the last few hours. between 4h36 and 12h16 ... no.

And no, nobody heard it, there was only one other player on the server and he wasn't even near us.

really I suspect an admin looking up the position and taking it back.

please answer...

If I do not receive a satisfying answer, and I will be the judge of that, I will make sure your servers get blacklisted

on a side not, whom do I have to spam to get a server blacklisted for this kind of admin abuse?

Edited August 25, 2012 by SoWeMeetAgain

[khalimerot 76]

We are now in 1.7.2.5...Chopper do not save position in 1.7.2.5 and get back to his spawning place at each reboot...

Will you also report an admin abuse each time you die ?

Edited August 25, 2012 by khalimerot

[SqTH 260]

You must be new here. You discover that admins have access to the logs of their servers (And I also have acces to the files of my computer, bewaaare) and now everything will be admin's fault : server restart ? Admin's fault to save a chopper. Chopper disappear ? Admin's fault. Lost my bag? Admin's fault. Got killed without any sounds ? Admin's fault.

As for the official response : 1.7.2.5 doesn't save the chopper's position. That's why we were in 1.7.2.4.

And please, stop pissing in your pants and ask for a blacklist or justice for every one of your sad moments on the serv.

You want us to be blacklisted ? GTFO.There are TONS of servers, less protected, with admins not readings logs or applying anti-cheats. Enjoy them.

Edited August 25, 2012 by SqTH

[khalimerot 76]

If I do not receive a satisfying answer, and I will be the judge of that, I will make sure your servers get blacklisted

on a side not, whom do I have to spam to get a server blacklisted for this kind of admin abuse?

I just have notice this sentence on your post , CanardPC forum side (yes he made this topic on our forum too)

You are threatening us...a threat on our forum is a motivation of Ban. I hope for you a CPC forum admin will not see it.

But do as you wich...I Think i will be happy to be blacklisted in the end i will not have to choose between public and private server anymore...

Edited August 25, 2012 by khalimerot

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

yeah sure, the heli position doesn't get saved, that's why we found it saved at the spot you parked it and shot the engine out. also all other vehicles get saved just fine

"threat"? are you fucking stupid? is it a threat if I say "don't smash my car or I will call the police"?

asking for blacklist for "every one of my sad moments"? show me one instance where I asked for a blacklist. Maybe your english is too bad to understand even what you wrote yourself but I didn't even ask for a blacklist once yet.

and yes, discovering that the admins, who are also players, not only check the logs for scripters and hackers but also for player gear, position, tent position, vehicle position is proper cause for concern

[khalimerot 76]

" If I don't have the answer I need , I will manage to get you blacklisted"

That's how i read your post (short way) , and it's a threat.

Perhaps my english is not good enough..but still it's what i'm reading. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Edited August 25, 2012 by khalimerot

[SqTH 260]

and yes, discovering that the admins, who are also players, not only check the logs for scripters and hackers but also for player gear, position, tent position, vehicle position is proper cause for concern.

Go and ask for the blacklist of every server.

I'm outta here.

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

Go and ask for the blacklist of every server.

I'm outta here.

Again, where in your quote am I asking for a blacklist? I wrote "cause for concern".

khalimerot: you CANNOT threaten someone with a morally and legally right action. If the police tell you not to speed or you will get a ticket, that's not a threat.

And I didn't say "if I'm not getting the answer I need" but I asked for a satisfying explanation as to what allegedly happened.

The facts, for outstanders:

• Both khalimerot and sqth are admins on that server.
  

• The helicopter did survive server restarts prior to us (me and my buddy) finding it. We were FUCKING THERE and waited until the 0300 restart went through to take it.
  

• We repaired it (it had a shot out engine) and flew it somewhere else and magically it's gone when we came back after taking some hours of sleep.
  

• The admins of FR35 have stated before that they do check player gear, position of tents players and vehicles in the log files. Not just for hackers but for everything apparently. I was threatened with a kick and ban for a weapon that IS ACTUALLY IN THE FUCKING GAME and I didn't cheat it in, I got it from a tent. ON THEIR SERVER!
  

• Within that discussion I told the admins that even if the weapon was hacked in (it is NOT) rocket specifically said that people should not be banned for it.
  http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/46844-hackers/#entry446536
  

• The admin then told me basically that they do not care about the official server rules(!) if they feel like they know better.
  

Now we stole the helicopter from the admins and it "magically" disappeared (and no, it was not at the position from where we stole it and where it DID survive a restart, since the admins are saying that's the problem, which it evidently, factually is not.

That of course raises strong suspicions of admin abuse. And they are not at all cooperative as you seem, in fact they are rather defensive and throw out insults, red herrings and other distractions but do not comment on what really happened. They COULD just show a log file for a start...

Edited August 25, 2012 by SoWeMeetAgain

[khalimerot 76]

Please ,

Request a blacklist .

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

Please ,

Request a blacklist .

again, no substantial answer, basically stating that I am right with my suspicions.

[khalimerot 76]

Yeah you are right , and you don't have the "satisfying explanations" you want.

So call for a blacklist.

Thank you.

[SqTH 260]

Now we stole the helicopter from the admins and it "magically" disappeared

Wait what, we had a chopper ?

[khalimerot 76]

Wait what, we had a chopper ?

Nop , we don't have it anymore , he stole it from us !

Check his position , we will launch some nuke to him.

Edited August 25, 2012 by khalimerot

[SqTH 260]

Okay, I'm gonna teleport him with my admin powers to steal all his beans muhahaha

[Shinssue 7]

Okay, I'm gonna teleport him with my admin powers to steal all his beans muhahaha

[doric_san 1]

again, no substantial answer, basically stating that I am right with my suspicions.

Die. Please die. For fuck sake.

Also, I'm outta here.

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

what, sock puppet accounts now? real mature and proving... yes, proving what exactly? :)

[SqTH 260]

what, sock puppet accounts now? real mature and proving... yes, proving what exactly? :)

SoWeMeetAgain, meet Doric, a friend of yours on the CPC forum

http://forum.canardpc.com/members/50344-SoWeMeetAgain

http://forum.canardpc.com/members/6555-Doric

Grow up kid. We have better things to do than steal your chopper or sock puppet accounts.

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

As I said, sock puppet. He is from your crew and this is his first and only post here... thank you for confirming.

[tiri 21]

As I said, sock puppet. He is from your crew and this is his first and only post here... thank you for confirming.

Or maybe he was really, really annoyed at you and took the time to register just to tell you to stop being stupid.

It was maybe a little too harsh, but I agree with him, with you registering on our forum just to say crap (like we can steal your helicopter: read this thread if your brain can accept some more informations). Even with the logs, we only have access to the gear of the players and the chat. Not a lot more.

BTW, we are nowhere near being a "crew". Nothing more than a community. Except for issues regarding the server, we rarely play and meet up together.

Seriously, you are annoying me a lot, with your double speech, threatening us

If I do not receive a satisfying answer, and I will be the judge of that, I will make sure your servers get blacklisted

while denying it and not listening anything we say.

And if we wanted to rain Hell down upon you, we wouldn't need a sock puppet. It's not funny.

So, please, if you have anything clever to say by taking into account what we said instead of being a blind idiot, go on so we can have a decent conversation. Otherwise, please shut your mouth and don't speak again.

Edited August 25, 2012 by Tiri

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

Or maybe he was really, really annoyed at you and took the time to register just to tell you to stop being stupid.

It was maybe a little too harsh, but I agree with him, with you registering on our forum just to say crap (like we can steal your helicopter: read this thread if your brain can accept some more informations). Even with the logs, we only have access to the gear of the players and the chat. Not a lot more.

Wrong, I did clearly not register for that purpose, read my first posts. But yeah, sounds good when you just put it out there, right? Too bad facts don't agree with you guys... again

BTW, we are nowhere near being a "crew". Nothing more than a community. Except for issues regarding the server, we rarely play and meet up together.

Seriously, you are annoying me a lot, with your double speech, threatening us

Again, it is not a threat.

If a police officer tells you "don't speed or I'll write you a ticket", it's not a threat either.

You cannot threaten someone with a morally and legally right action. And if it was admin abuse, a blacklist would be both.

while denying it and not listening anything we say.

Where exactly did "you" say anything but derogatory distractions, insults and "funny" gifs? Where is anything substantial?

And if we wanted to rain Hell down upon you, we wouldn't need a sock puppet. It's not funny.

So, please, if you have anything clever to say by taking into account what we said instead of being a blind idiot, go on so we can have a decent conversation. Otherwise, please shut your mouth and don't speak again.

Shut your mouth yourself.

[tchip 2]

I usually play on fr35 and I totally agree with the rule of this server about non legit weapon, first kick, then ban.

Admins spend many time for being present and reactive when we report cheaters to them on mumble, Then playing with cheated weapons dispit their effort is disgraceful and not fair play.

About the chopper, like all other vehicules and tent, me and surely all other players of this server have an entire confidence with them for not abusing their power (that's why i always play on this serv for a few month). By playing with them and against them during this time i can trust they dont. Your problem with the chopper was probably due to the same guy who can't code a game without thousands of bugs than the gratefull one who keep cheaters out of this place.

Edited August 26, 2012 by tchip

[Bushman (DayZ) 25]

I usually play on fr35 and I totally agree with the rule of this server about non legit weapon, first kick, then ban.

Admins spend many time for being present and reactive when we report cheaters to them on mumble, Then playing with cheated weapons dispit their effort is disgraceful and not fair play.

About the chopper, like all other vehicules and tent, me and surely all other players of this server have an entire confidence with them for not abusing their power (that's why i always play on this serv for a few month). By playing with them and against them during this time i can trust they dont. Your problem with the chopper was probably due to the same guy who can't code a game without thousands of bugs than the gratefull one who keep cheaters out of this place.

Admins arent allowed to kick or ban you for possessing a weapon that doesnt spawn ingame.they can only ban you if they have proof that you used scripts.

Edited August 26, 2012 by Bushman

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

I usually play on fr35 and I totally agree with the rule of this server about non legit weapon, first kick, then ban.

Admins spend many time for being present and reactive when we report cheaters to them on mumble, Then playing with cheated weapons dispit their effort is disgraceful and not fair play.

About the chopper, like all other vehicules and tent, me and surely all other players of this server have an entire confidence with them for not abusing their power (that's why i always play on this serv for a few month). By playing with them and against them during this time i can trust they dont. Your problem with the chopper was probably due to the same guy who can't code a game without thousands of bugs than the gratefull one who keep cheaters out of this place.

I know vehicles are bugged and all, but look at the situation from my point of view.

We find the helicopter, we wait the coming server restart (0300), the helicopter is STILL THERE, exactly the same position, exactly the same damage to the engine (everything else green).

We repair the engine, we fuel it up, we fly it somewhere and some hours later WOOOOSH it's gone. It was not at the point from where we took it, but my buddy saw two people with a vehicle standing there.

And that on a server where the admins seem to be full of themselves and even stating that they know better than everyone else and only their rules count... rules which I couldn't find anywhere. Maybe in french? I wouldn't know I don't speak french.

Edited August 26, 2012 by SoWeMeetAgain

[Shinssue 7]

rules which I couldn't find anywhere. Maybe in french? I wouldn't know I don't speak french.

It's a simple and logical rule of CanardPC cummunity servers (for all games) >"Play legit and fair or GTFO", all CPC players understand and apply it on all games we play.

I hope see all other servers apply same logic and bans all cheaters/illegal weapons...

More ! I hope see all cheaters come open a topic on this forum and cry a river for have buy a cheat and get ban with. They are so funny when they do that.