Has Problem With DM, Gets Classed As "Carebear"

[grishnakah 0]

Most of you will probably just regard this as another "Carebear" post, and you'll tell me that you enjoy my tears. Well this is the audiance that this post is targetting.

I know since the recent increase of new players connecting after the mass popularity and attention this mod has been getting, that player killing has been on the rise. Ofcourse, I only started a week and a half ago, and I already have (nearly) mastered the ability to survive in this game (with friends ofcourse, as that's the only way). However, with the 1.6 patch taking away bandit skins, players have been alot more trigger-happy. This means that the newer players who genuinely want to survive, but don't know how the mod works and such are usually the first to die. This then causes rage, followed by the player quitting. Now, apply this to nearly every new player who comes.

The problem here is that this means less people will play the game, and 'Rocket' will lose his audiance. He can't run a game on the small number of players who have followed since the beginning. That's how the popularity of a game dies, and as such, the game itself. These unmarked bandits are essentially ruining the game.

Now I know most of you will reply with "In a real world scenario, people will kill each other for beans, blah blah blah". This is actually not true. The majority of people who actually play this are most likely scrawny, weak teenagers or morbidly obese. No, I'm not trying to offend you. Just stating a fact. Do you honestly believe that you will come across an M249 SAW in the middle of a zombie apocalypse? Do you really think you can just "raid" a military compund for supplies? You want to try to fight other people for their supplies? Good luck with that.

Truth is, you can't. No, you can't just "raid" a military compund. That'd be one of the first things that gets bunkered down, by the military themselves. Most of you will even struggle to outrun zombies. Alot of you don't even know what kind of food will last for the years to come. The real key to survival is companionship. You must rely on other people to help you, and thus, you help them. Really, you'd raid several shops to try to find cans of spam, spaghetti, and ofcourse, beans. You fortify your homes, and wait for the whole thing to blow over.

Or, you go out, trying to kill other survivors for their supplies and/or weaponry. Most of you, being as unfit as you are, will die attempting that. Yes, there will be real bandits out there. People who will kill other people, steal supplies, rape the women. But those people are not playing this game. Where are they now? They're out there body building, fucking women, picking fist-fights with people in nightclubs. You are not one of these tools. You are a gamer. You have a problem with the outside world, and find peace in this virtual world.

Don't act like a bandit. Act like a real survivor. Team up with people and fight the hordes together. Or, if you must choose to kill people, take on people AWAY from the coastal areas. Don't pick on the noobs who don't know how to play. Teach them first so they can atleast learn to defend themselves from you or other players. Go have a deathmatch out in Stary or NW. Leave Cherno/Elektro for the players who need the help. Let them learn to play. Don't drive away the new players.

Thats my opinion. It is neither correct or wrong, just like your opinion. Everyone is entitiled to one.

tl;dr: Don't be a noob. :D

[fackstah 31]

i love the carebears one of the best shows i watched as a kid growing up in the 80's

its sacrilegious poeple use it to describe people in this game

[Bandit Hunter 29]

Jesus, read the other 17 "care bear explanation" threads below yours.. You're defenses are hit over and over again, the argument simply does NOT hold up to Rocket's idea for HIS mod. I'm tired of repeating myself over and over again.

I can give you one tip, before you post another thread like this: Read Rocket's interviews, find his posts and READ them, see what HE believes this game should be like. You can list 150 reasons why your "care bear" antics are the right way, but they're NOT. This is Rocket's mod, its HIS. We didn't pay for it. It is an experiment. The ONLY way you can change they're behavior, is to go in game, start a milita, and CHANGE it.

There will be NO god hand aimed against any play style. Its not how Rocket wants it. People who can not adapt to the way DayZ IS, will fade away. He will NOT change DayZ to KEEP the players who can't adapt.

[Dave Caffeine 17]

Here's an idea, Don't go in cherno or elektro and expect to live.

I don't and most of my characters last a few days.

[Griefer (DayZ) 0]

My opinion is you're a fuckwit brony. Stereotyping people conveniently so they'll be forced to play the way you want and using horribly flawed reasoning to back up the stereotypes... Yeah right. The moment a stereotype becomes a legitimate point to bank on in an argument is the moment I fill my house with my little pony figurines. You're entitled to an opinion, that doesn't mean it's wrong or makes any sense what-so-ever.

[grishnakah 0]

Here's an idea' date=' Don't go in cherno or elektro and expect to live.

I don't and most of my characters last a few days.

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Older players like myself don't. Newer players don't know any better. The point of the thread is not to make people stop being bandits, but atleast don't pick on the newer players. Go play GTA over in a town with players on your level.

Jesus' date=' read the other 17 "care bear explanation" threads below yours.. You're defenses are hit over and over again, the argument simply does NOT hold up to Rocket's idea for HIS mod. I'm tired of repeating myself over and over again.

I can give you one tip, before you post another thread like this: Read Rocket's interviews, find his posts and READ them, see what HE believes this game should be like. You can list 150 reasons why your "care bear" antics are the right way, but they're NOT. This is Rocket's mod, its HIS. We didn't pay for it. It is an experiment. The ONLY way you can change they're behavior, is to go in game, start a milita, and CHANGE it.

There will be NO god hand aimed against any play style. Its not how Rocket wants it. People who can not adapt to the way DayZ IS, will fade away. He will NOT change DayZ to KEEP the players who can't adapt.

[/quote']

Same as above. I don't want him to change the game to appeal to anyone. I want the community to change to allow newer players to get used to the game. Go to Stary and be a soldier-boy there.

[fackstah 31]

THE END

[grishnakah 0]

My opinion is you're a fuckwit brony. Stereotyping people conveniently so they'll be forced to play the way you want and using horribly flawed reasoning to back up the stereotypes... Yeah right. The moment a stereotype becomes a legitimate point to bank on in an argument is the moment I fill my house with my little pony figurines. You're entitled to an opinion' date=' that doesn't mean it's wrong or makes any sense what-so-ever.

[/quote']

I stereotype people....

*rereads your whole post*

Oh, ok. I'm the person at fault here. Ok.

[Griefer (DayZ) 0]

I'm just insulting you, I'm not banking an argument on it.

If you need someone to explain to you why an opinion can be wrong, you need to put down your mint-edition girls toy and go back to school.

[TelapicusSparkle 0]

I think everyone should just calm down he's made his opinion heard move on.

[grishnakah 0]

I'm just insulting you' date=' I'm not banking an argument on it.

If you need someone to explain to you why an opinion can be wrong, you need to put down your mint-edition girls toy and go back to school.

[/quote']

No opinion is wrong or right. That's the point of an opinion.

My opinion is that Barak Obama is a good president. Is someone going to tell me I'm wrong, or tell me that that's my opinion?

[Blaaaaaaag 75]

I'd like to challenge the assumption that it's the removal of the bandit skins that's causing all this perceived chaos, and propose that it has more to do with the mod's doubling in popularity over the span of a couple weeks, and attracting a larger, overall less mature audience.

Of course, this can't be proven, or even supported with circumstantial empirical data, but it's my theory, and I've never been wrong about anything yet.

[Shimmler 4]

I'd like to challenge the assumption that it's the removal of the bandit skins that's causing all this perceived chaos' date=' and propose that it has more to do with the mod's doubling in popularity over the span of a couple weeks, and attracting a larger, overall less mature audience.

Of course, this can't be proven, or even supported with circumstantial empirical data, but it's my theory, and I've never been wrong about anything yet.

[/quote']

Bullshit. I've been shot by survivors many times before the bandit skin was removed.

[Dave Caffeine 17]

Expecting every player killer in this game to bend to your will is unrealistic and isn't going to happen simply because they don't give a shit, you can't make them give a shit, and they shouldn't have to give a shit.

I think you are exaggerating the number of players that will leave the game because they were player killed. We were all new players once, and we have all undoubtedly been murdered in Cherno and or Elektro and yet we are all still here.

[TelapicusSparkle 0]

Expecting every player killer in this game to bend to your will is unrealistic and isn't going to happen simply because they don't give a shit' date=' you can't make them give a shit, and they shouldn't have to give a shit.

I think you are exaggerating the number of players that will leave the game because they were player killed. We were all new players once, and we have all undoubtedly been murdered in Cherno and or Elektro and yet we are all still here.

[/quote']

it does affect the overall game experience though like losing everything in Minecraft.

[Blaaaaaaag 75]

Bullshit. I've been shot by survivors many times before the bandit skin was removed.

I think you're agreeing with my general sentiment, then. I've shot fewer survivors since the removal of the bandit skins, don't know why that is. I never had a bandit skin, but a week ago I was actively hunting people for fun, nowadays I'm just trying to keep to myself.

My point in that post was to counter the OP's assertion that removing the bandit skins has caused all hell to break loose... It does seem a more violent place out there, but I don't think the lack of bandit skins is the reason, just the excuse many use for things they'd do anyway.

[Dave Caffeine 17]

Expecting every player killer in this game to bend to your will is unrealistic and isn't going to happen simply because they don't give a shit' date=' you can't make them give a shit, and they shouldn't have to give a shit.

I think you are exaggerating the number of players that will leave the game because they were player killed. We were all new players once, and we have all undoubtedly been murdered in Cherno and or Elektro and yet we are all still here.

[/quote']

it does affect the overall game experience though like losing everything in Minecraft.

What you're not realizing though is losing all of your equipment at a moments notice is an integral part of the mod. The threat of instant unpredictable death keeps you constantly on edge, and gives value to the equipment you have been lucky enough to find or obtain via "other" methods.

[killkhan 3]

Terrible post from the OP.

Five minutes of my life I'll never get back.

[TelapicusSparkle 0]

Bullshit. I've been shot by survivors many times before the bandit skin was removed.

I think you're agreeing with my general sentiment' date=' then. I've shot fewer survivors since the removal of the bandit skins, don't know why that is. I never had a bandit skin, but a week ago I was actively hunting people for fun, nowadays I'm just trying to keep to myself.

My point in that post was to counter the OP's assertion that removing the bandit skins has caused all hell to break loose... It does seem a more violent place out there, but I don't think the lack of bandit skins is the reason, just the excuse many use for things they'd do anyway.

[/quote']

Not completely make hell break loose but the removal of the skin transition that was in place before has made people more suspicious obviously before you could tell if someone was going to shoot you if they looked like a desert ops person in the forest, however now anyone can shoot you so taking that into effect most players not including the new ones assume that most people are bandits and will just shoot on sight rather than risk it ( it did feel a bit more civil before with the whole Friendly? in side chat).

@Dave Caffeine

I realise that losing your equipment is integral to the whole game experience (love/hate relationship) hence why I referenced Minecraft where its the same experience really keeping you on edge constantly making you alert i like games that do that

[Hawk24 94]

>rainbow as thread icon

>pony avatar

>talks anti-"DM" bullshit

>wonders why he's being called carebear

[Pat_the_Bunny 4]

Ha, I like that you hide behind the "This is just my opinion" line, but come off so matter of factly in the rest of the post, such as, "The majority of people who actually play this are most likely scrawny, weak teenagers or morbidly obese. No, I'm not trying to offend you. Just stating a fact."

To the point though, I disagree that new players are raging away from the game because of the player killing; some without a doubt have, but I get the feeling a good percentage of the new players are coming to the game solely for the ability to run amok and have almost no penalties for doing so. Is it the way people would actually behave in situations like this, not really, but that's the fun of playing game.

[grishnakah 0]

>rainbow as thread icon

>pony avatar

>talks anti-"DM" bullshit

>wonders why he's being called carebear

I don't wonder why I'm being called "care bear". I just don't see why we have to be forced to murder other players in order to survive. Before the 1.6 patch, we could all easily tell a bandit from a fellow survivor, and easily make groups, run through towns, grab what supplies we needed, and run inland. Now, everyone is quick to fire at the first sign of another survivor, because they're afraid of being shot first.

Why can't we be friends?

[Hawk24 94]

I just don't see why we have to be forced to murder other players in order to survive

That's only true when you decide to spend 95% of your time on the coast

Loot runs with starter gear are pretty easy, I've made dozens of them without ever being detected by a fellow player

You don't NEED to go to Elektro/Cherno

You are NOT forced to go there just to get some decent loot

There are tons of way to get gear outside of the coast

[TelapicusSparkle 0]

I just don't see why we have to be forced to murder other players in order to survive

That's only true when you decide to spend 95% of your time on the coast

Loot runs with starter gear are pretty easy' date=' I've made dozens of them without ever being detected by a fellow player

You don't NEED to go to Elektro/Cherno

You are NOT forced to go there just to get some decent loot

There are tons of way to get gear outside of the coast

[/quote']

you know actually that's really vague once you start to think about it, it could mean self defence or bean looting though i think he means latter

[JimiEZ (DayZ) 0]

Now I know most of you will reply with "In a real world scenario' date=' people will kill each other for beans, blah blah blah". This is actually not true. The majority of people who actually play this are most likely scrawny, weak teenagers or morbidly obese. No, I'm not trying to offend you. Just stating a fact. Do you honestly believe that you will come across an M249 SAW in the middle of a zombie apocalypse? Do you really think you can just "raid" a military compund for supplies? You want to try to fight other people for their supplies? Good luck with that.

[/quote']

I'm in a pretty good condition and have had military training, does this mean I can kill people with impunity?