Can someone explain some PVP mechanics for me?

[hoorah (DayZ) 36]

Had a situation in the fire station today and I was wondering what I did wrong.

Saw a trail of zombies headed in, I was on the 2nd floor of the fire station. Figured I had a player on his way in. Hear footsteps on the stairs, figure I've got the drop on the guy.

He comes up, swinging his enfield around (I had the same). I hit him first. He runs downstairs, gets on the mic and says 'yo dude, I'm friendly'. I don't trust him. So I say "alright, fine. Leave me alone. Leave and I won't shoot at you, but dont come up here' Not sure if he believes me, but FWIW, I was telling the truth.

Anyway, he says "okay, fine" then immediately heads back up. I shoot him again. He runs downstairs, again, and says 'dude wtf stop shooting me'. I told him not to come up.

So he comes up a third time as I'm about to go up the stairs to the next level. As soon as I see him, I fire, but the gun doesn't do anything. I start absolutely mashing the fire button and nothing happens. I know I had ammo in the gun as I had just reloaded and was sure I had 10 rounds. He hits me once and I go down, knocked out. I don't remember exactly how much blood I had when I started, but I want to say it was 9000+, and when I was knocked out I had 1500 ish, after which I died (obviously).

When I made my way back to my body and picked up my enfield again, it had 6 rounds in it.

TLDR; 90% sure I hit a guy twice with an enfield, he didn't die. Also, after 2 rounds, had trouble getting enfield to fire. What did I do wrong?

[ThatGuyCalledReptile 314]

Shots to the body make you bleed.

Shots to the head kill.

Shots to the legs will break them.

[GodOfGrain 191]

Gameplay-wise you did everything correct (except of being in a firestation maybe ;) )

No player will survive two hits with a Lee Enfield. Already 1 hit should have put him down.

So:

- You have missed him

- You missed him due to lag

- He's a cheater

The two first points are much more likely.

That you couldn't fire your weapon in the end:

Lag?

Weapon lowered? (double-strg?)

Maybe you have actived some other kind of control-combination...

Anyhow, have not encountered this once.

[sonicrainbrony 136]

No player will survive two hits with a Lee Enfield. Already 1 hit should have put him down.

False. The Operation Arrowhead 1.62 update nerfed the damage of Lee Enfield to a bit over 6000.

[dougan25 34]

if nothing happened when you tried to fire (and there wasn't a click from no ammo) then your weapon was most likely in the "down" position. did you try firing twice or just once? because left clicking brings up your gun when its down

[Elenkel 50]

It sounds like a hacker to me.

The hacker had godmode on, so any hits you made were pointless. However some hackers are trying to be very discrete. They'll act as if the shot dealt damage, and won't put themselves into a position where they get shot too many times to legitimately survive.

Your second problem, when your gun froze, can also be caused by a hacker. Hackers have a script which locks all your controls. Most players who run into this ignorantly consider it a game bug. Next time anyone realises that their guns are working in a firefight should simply Alt+F4. It's dirty, but it's the lesser evil than giving a hacker his satisfaction.

[daze23 549]

That you couldn't fire your weapon in the end:

Lag?

Weapon lowered? (double-strg?)

Maybe you have actived some other kind of control-combination...

Anyhow, have not encountered this once.

I encountered it when I hit "F" by accident and selected the glow sticks or whatever

[DarkwaveDomina 1099]

1. Rooty tooty point-and-shooty.

2. That's all.

[hoorah (DayZ) 36]

Gameplay-wise you did everything correct (except of being in a firestation maybe ;) )

No player will survive two hits with a Lee Enfield. Already 1 hit should have put him down.

So:

- You have missed him

- You missed him due to lag

- He's a cheater

I definitely, for sure, hit him once. I saw the blood splatter when I hit him, and then he started bleeding (dont remember if it was the first or the second shot that made him bleed). In fact, once I saw he was bleeding, thats why I wanted to run up to the next level - I was trying to draw him up to maximize his bleed out time.

I contend that its certainly possible I missed him twice, (or just lagged out on the second one), but I know for sure I hit him once. Also, after he managed to knock me out, I heard him on the mic say 'holy crap, I killed him, I cant believe I got him!.....but I need to bandage now". Then, because we both fired enfields, zombies started coming up the stairs and hit him as he was bandaging. Pretty sure he alt-f4ed after that.

That you couldn't fire your weapon in the end:

Lag?

Weapon lowered? (double-strg?)

What do you mean by double-strg?

I'm thinking it might have been because my weapon was lowered, although I'm not sure why that would happen (considering I was in an active firefight). This is something I'd like to learn about so I don't make the same mistake twice. Does it auto-lower when you run?

I was in first person mode, looking down the iron sights when I shot him. Then, when I wanted to egress upstairs, I switched to third person and backed up to run up the stairs. Then I saw him come back up, right clicked to zoom in( not iron sights), and tried firing - thats when I was getting nothing.

I noticed one time when I wasnt in a firefight that my weapon seemed to be lowered. Since I didn't want to risk left clicking and firing, I switched to my sidearm, then back to primary and that seemed to fix it, but I had no idea how it got lowered to begin with.

Thanks for the tips guys!

[hoorah (DayZ) 36]

if nothing happened when you tried to fire (and there wasn't a click from no ammo) then your weapon was most likely in the "down" position. did you try firing twice or just once? because left clicking brings up your gun when its down

To be honest, I tried firing once, and when nothing happened, I just started mashing the left click repeatedly out of panic while trying to move.

[omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069]

Wow, that guy was a dumbass.

[hoorah (DayZ) 36]

False. The Operation Arrowhead 1.62 update nerfed the damage of Lee Enfield to a bit over 6000.

But even if he had 12000 blood, 2 hits would bring him below zero, right?

I'm not familiar with the weapon damage in ARMA 2. I know the enfield WAS 12,500 dmage, and I know it was nerfed to 6700. But is the 6700 ANYWHERE on the body? Im pretty sure I hit him center mass, but hey, I was also pretty sure I hit him twice and obviously that wasnt true.

[Josh225 129]

I'm kind of beat on this.

Could of been a cheater, lag, server de-sync etc...

[hoorah (DayZ) 36]

I honestly doubt he was a cheater. He seemed pretty surprised that he killed me when he was talking on the mic. Not sure who he was talking to, maybe someone below him? Not sure. But he was definitely bleeding, because from my unconscious state, I saw him try to bandage and saw the blood coming out.

I guess I just hit him once and it wasn't enough, which pisses me off. I totally had the drop on a guy and put a big-ass 303 through his chest and I'm the one that dies.......

[hoorah (DayZ) 36]

Wow, that guy was a dumbass.

Yeah no kidding. "Don't come up here" "Okay, fine" comes right back up the stairs into someone's line of fire.

Kid should be dead, but oh well. There have been worse injustices.

[The_Albatros 72]

PVP Mechanics 101:

Repeat after me:

Shoot other players.

Don't be shot by other players.

Now repeat 20x

[DrewDubious 19]

It sounds like a hacker to me.

The hacker had godmode on, so any hits you made were pointless. However some hackers are trying to be very discrete. They'll act as if the shot dealt damage, and won't put themselves into a position where they get shot too many times to legitimately survive.

Your second problem, when your gun froze, can also be caused by a hacker. Hackers have a script which locks all your controls. Most players who run into this ignorantly consider it a game bug. Next time anyone realises that their guns are working in a firefight should simply Alt+F4. It's dirty, but it's the lesser evil than giving a hacker his satisfaction.

lol?

[SplashmanSplif 1]

yesterday i put a whole magazine into a guys head that was looting my team mates body. he didnt know i was behind him so i shot him point blank, he turned around and killed me, after i unloaded 30 rounds of M4 into his head

[patriots20068@yahoo.com 100]

PvP depends on player skill, tactical awareness, and latency. If you can't aim, you won't win the battle. If you don't take cover, you'll lose. And if you're connection sucks, good luck.

[pshiamtanis@hotmail.com 4]

after your first shot, he went down stairs, got a blood transfusion from his buddy that he was talking to.