Teach me how to shoot people...

[zealot644 3]

I made a thread earlier about weapons and how it feels like I have a pea shooter in comparison to other players. Regularly I get the jump on another player and despite upper body and head shots, they always seem to survive and two shot me in return. (Yes, I shoot slowly to ensure bullets hit and I try for the head)

Basically I got told A)I suck B)Could be lag

So please, tell me your ultimate wisdom in relation to killing people. I'm sick of getting killed by a bandit who wont drop from 4 .45 ACP rounds to the face, or a survivor who takes two rounds to the head and chest just to turn around and one shot me with his Winchester.

Every death I have had so far can be attributed to losing gun battles. This isnt to say I havent won any (I have won a few on my own with considerable 'luck' - one dude took about 8 shots from my M16A2 and i STILL had to finish him off with my pistol) but they are few and far between.

So, TELL ME HOW YOU DO IT. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

[wicked_circuits 3]

If you want to survive killing others, you need distance. The Lee Enfield might be good so long as your not around any zombies, or the cz550. Even the winchester would be good, depending on your aim. Stand back at least 100m with these, and you should be golden :)

happy hunting

[zealot644 3]

If you want to survive killing others' date=' you need distance. The Lee Enfield might be good so long as your not around any zombies, or the cz550. Even the winchester would be good, depending on your aim. Stand back at least 100m with these, and you should be golden :)

happy hunting

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You see, I prefer assault rifles ... Are they really that bad?

I mean, some guy 3 shotted me with an AKM earlier...I've been able to like 8 shot somebody with the AKM and that's it. I've faced people close range with it and despite shooting them numerous times they are still alive and bleeding whereas if the sides were switched I'd have been dead two bullets in.

Close quarters is where most of my engagements happen - I need to know how to do that properly (because apparently I do it wrong)

[Bandit Hunter 29]

I had some bad luck in gunfights against bandits a while ago. I don't play games anymore, and certinally don't trust my bullets. If I have a shot, I unload a magazine as quickly as possible without regard to aim, before rolling out of my position, reloading, and firing some just-in-case rounds.. just in case.

[Suicide Mouse 50]

I can almost guarantee you that is lag, mate.

In any case, what you should always remember is that this game have real ballistics, so there's bullet drop and yawn, speed and impact.

Take that in consideration to make sure you're getting headshots. But I'm sure you're too close to have any bullet effect, that's why I bet on lag.

[deadbolt (DayZ) 10]

grab an enfield, you will drop people fast with that gun

[zealot644 3]

I can almost you guarantee you that is lag' date=' mate.

In any case, what you should always remember is that this game have real ballistics, so there's bullet drop and yawn, speed and impact.

Take that in consideration to make sure you're getting headshots. But I'm sure you're too close to have any bullet effect, that's why I bet on lag.

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Everybody tends to assume I'm just bad...I've been playing shooters for years and am a good player in my opinion (I've played lots of STALKER too which feels quite similar to this game in terms of shooting)

I already take into account the various bullet physics, but at the ranges most engagements take place in there should be no reason that I would need to compensate for anything. I always aim for the upper torso and for the head when possible because I know it's the best 'kill spot' but I still get completely f****ed whenever the player decides to return fire. I got a nice two kills with a DMR today on people I sniped and it felt like they died properly (Two body shots on one, and a single headshot on another - there was a slight delay after they got hit, but still) until I died and havent been able to connect to any servers since. Other guns simply dont work...

What are the best guns for defending myself? I've used the M16A2 and AKM as well as Makarov and M1911 against players - that's it, everything else for me lacks any experience. So far none of my guns feel efficient.

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grab an enfield' date=' you will drop people fast with that gun

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I'll consider this...and hope I dont pull a whole city of zombies lol.

[wicked_circuits 3]

One option, if your set on close range, find an assault rifle, and when you head into close quarters, hit 'f' to switch to burst or even full auto, then when further away, switch back to semi. That way, if you happen upon someone else in close quarters, one click, one mag. :D

[zealot644 3]

One option' date=' if your set on close range, find an assault rifle, and when you head into close quarters, hit 'f' to switch to burst or even full auto, then when further away, switch back to semi. That way, if you happen upon someone else in close quarters, one click, one mag. :D

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Tried this and was not successful. Players in my sights still dont die :(

I sound like a fucking broken record always being like 'nope' but it's the reality...One which I hate.

[Mitritch 4]

grab an enfield' date=' you will drop people fast with that gun

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This. Killed a group of 3 well-equipped survivors in Electro yesterday using it. :)

[zealot644 3]

grab an enfield' date=' you will drop people fast with that gun

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This. Killed a group of 3 well-equipped survivors in Electro yesterday using it. :)

Alright. I'll consider it once I am able to connect to servers again. Although, the volume of it terrifies me...

[deadbolt (DayZ) 10]

I'll consider this...and hope I dont pull a whole city of zombies lol.

its a good possibility, make sure u have a revolver or m1911 to kill zombies with

[Mitritch 4]

In order to rule out that you are slow and clumsy try to pass this test:

http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/reaction.swf

If you are hitting 200 on average - then you are good to kill almost anybody you meet. :)

(BTW, while using windows 7 you can try to disable Aero, cause it adds significant input lag - for my system it is close to 50 milliseconds)

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grab an enfield' date=' you will drop people fast with that gun

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This. Killed a group of 3 well-equipped survivors in Electro yesterday using it. :)

Alright. I'll consider it once I am able to connect to servers again. Although, the volume of it terrifies me...

Be prepared to fight a horde of zeds every time you use it - so always keep in mind an exit strategy. But this drawback is compensated greatly by its ability to put down a player in one hit. :)

[zealot644 3]

In order to rule out that you are slow and clumsy try to pass this test:

http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/reaction.swf

If you are hitting 200 on average - then you are good to kill almost anybody you meet. :)

(BTW' date=' while using windows 7 you can try to disable Aero, cause it adds significant input lag - for my system it is close to 50 milliseconds)

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grab an enfield' date=' you will drop people fast with that gun

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This. Killed a group of 3 well-equipped survivors in Electro yesterday using it. :)

Alright. I'll consider it once I am able to connect to servers again. Although, the volume of it terrifies me...

Be prepared to fight a horde of zeds every time you use it - so always keep in mind an exit strategy. But this drawback is compensated greatly by its ability to put down a player in one hit. :)

Scored 199 in the test. Reaction times arent a problem for me at all.

I'll give the Lee Enfield a try...I just prefer other guns and wish they worked better, but I'll definitely try it.

Now...Here's to hoping that tomorrow this server connection problem is solved.

[deadbolt (DayZ) 10]

Scored 270 in the test. Reaction times arent a problem for me at all.

I'll give the Lee Enfield a try...I just prefer other guns and wish they worked better' date=' but I'll definitely try it.

Now...Here's to hoping that tomorrow this server connection problem is solved.

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if you are in a situation where reaction time is crucial you made a bigger mistake in my opinion

[zealot644 3]

Scored 270 in the test. Reaction times arent a problem for me at all.

I'll give the Lee Enfield a try...I just prefer other guns and wish they worked better' date=' but I'll definitely try it.

Now...Here's to hoping that tomorrow this server connection problem is solved.

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if you are in a situation where reaction time is crucial you made a bigger mistake in my opinion

Did it again and got an average of 208 over 5 clicks.

And now 199. Gets better the more I do it...Anyways, that's enough of that.

[Mitritch 4]

Scored 270 in the test. Reaction times arent a problem for me at all.

I'll give the Lee Enfield a try...I just prefer other guns and wish they worked better' date=' but I'll definitely try it.

Now...Here's to hoping that tomorrow this server connection problem is solved.

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if you are in a situation where reaction time is crucial you made a bigger mistake in my opinion

Did it again and got an average of 208 over 5 clicks.

Then everything is Ok in this regard. :)

BTW, who usually shoot first when you meet other players? You or them?

[zealot644 3]

Scored 270 in the test. Reaction times arent a problem for me at all.

I'll give the Lee Enfield a try...I just prefer other guns and wish they worked better' date=' but I'll definitely try it.

Now...Here's to hoping that tomorrow this server connection problem is solved.

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if you are in a situation where reaction time is crucial you made a bigger mistake in my opinion

Did it again and got an average of 208 over 5 clicks.

Then everything is Ok in this regard. :)

BTW, who usually shoot first when you meet other players? You or them?

Depends wholly on circumstance. I tried for the longest time to avoid killing those I didnt have to, but when I see bandits especially I will shoot them on principle.

On my screen I am almost always the first one to shoot, usually getting off a few shots before they return fire.

[Suicide Mouse 50]

I think you should throw the "I shoot slow to make sure I'm getting hedshots" away. Fire fast, as fast as you can, and see what you get.

I'm pretty sure that in a gunfight the shots have a delay to be "confirmed", so I think that who got the most shots in the less times, when the time lapse suddenly goes out the guy gets several holes on him at once.

[zealot644 3]

I think you should throw the "I shoot slow to make sure I'm getting hedshots" away. Fire fast' date=' as fast as you can, and see what you get.

I'm pretty sure that in a gunfight the shots have a delay to be "confirmed", so I think that who got the most shots in the less times, when the time lapse suddenly goes out the guy gets several holes on him at once.

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I'll try that too I guess and see what happens.

[Mitritch 4]

I think you should throw the "I shoot slow to make sure I'm getting hedshots" away. Fire fast' date=' as fast as you can, and see what you get.

I'm pretty sure that in a gunfight the shots have a delay to be "confirmed", so I think that who got the most shots in the less times, when the time lapse suddenly goes out the guy gets several holes on him at once.

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Yeah, and this is exactly how I shoot too.

[zealot644 3]

I think you should throw the "I shoot slow to make sure I'm getting hedshots" away. Fire fast' date=' as fast as you can, and see what you get.

I'm pretty sure that in a gunfight the shots have a delay to be "confirmed", so I think that who got the most shots in the less times, when the time lapse suddenly goes out the guy gets several holes on him at once.

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Yeah, and this is exactly how I shoot too.

Well if that's two of you, I'll try and adopt that to see how things go.

I was just under the impression from playing single player ARMA or coop against AI that a shot or two to the chest was enough to down somebody - especially with powerful rifles. It was with that reasoning I decided that slower aimed shots would be best (I'm not talking super slow, but I definitely single shot with slight delays to ensure the gun is back in place before another round goes out)

[Banano (DayZ) 0]

Give them a good helping of bullets then take cover and wait for the server to catch up and for them to realize they're dead. It's most likely just sever lag.

[zealot644 3]

Give them a good helping of bullets then take cover and wait for the server to catch up and for them to realize they're dead. It's most likely just sever lag.

Alright.

These replies beat the previous ones I got of "you must suck"... Jumping to conclusions doesnt help anybody =\