Things that need to be removed

[JulieMeyers 78]

Please remove the "was killed" message along with the corpseflies & debugwindow. That way you can pretend like you died and trick your attacker.

An alternative to the corpseflies is that they appear after X number of minutes after the person was killed or simply after that somebody looted the corpse.

The murder- and banditkills would be shown to you when you have died.

This would make the game better seeing it as it would add to the realism. There is no way for you to tell if the guy you shot got killed or not without walking up to him or her and checking the pulse.

[DevilDriver (DayZ) 10]

The removal of the 'was killed' message would be great!

That should defo be removed as it will not only make it possible for people in close combat to feign death, but also when you see someone running through the woods and take a pot shot with a sniper you wouldn't know if you had hit or not and it would add to the danger.

Edited July 31, 2012 by DevilDriver

[herd 69]

No

[suspense 210]

I dunno about the kill messages, i like them as they assist in finding hackers.

The debug console is there for a reason, it provides needed information through the alpha to determine what happened when something went wrong. Its crucial for development. Thats why its a "debug console"

[CreateNPlay (DayZ) 2]

No

No to you.

[david.mcentee@live.co.uk 46]

you guys are silly willys!

[-Atlas- 5]

I like the removal of the kill message. Right now it's just too much of a cheap way to check if your bullet landed.

[CreateNPlay (DayZ) 2]

I dunno about the kill messages, i like them as they assist in finding hackers.

The debug console is there for a reason, it provides needed information through the alpha to determine what happened when something went wrong. Its crucial for development. Thats why its a "debug console"

So give it for server admins / dev only then. We have a blood UI Image and the others. Why do we care taht 254/265 zombies are alive?

[herd 69]

By the stupid brilliant logic of the OP, remove the debug monitor then. Its unrealistic to see your health to the decimal point. Also remove eye, ear, food and other icons.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Roboserg

[DevilDriver (DayZ) 10]

No

This is the point, it just helps codfags in being trigger happy and not having to think about the consequences of pulling the trigger, for the sake of realism it should go.

So give it for server admins / dev only then. We have a blood UI Image and the others. Why do we care taht 254/265 zombies are alive?

Makes sense and solves both issues.

[Womb Raider 92]

So give it for server admins / dev only then. We have a blood UI Image and the others. Why do we care taht 254/265 zombies are alive?

Yeah as that helps me when a hacker is shooting at me.

[Drblodski 53]

In a full retail modified engine release this could work to some extent. I think if you remove the ability to see if your target was hit or died then it should be replaced by an audible ouch if they get hit or blood on the floor/fallen leaves, tarmac, grass etc if you follow the trail so to speak. Also a character should be less able to run away when shot anywhere except the arms. If a person is shot in real life unless it its a graze they rarely sprint away normally. They have to crawl or roll. or simply cannot move away but can still return fire albeit in panic mode. The true mark of a simulator rather than just a game would be that you never get told by the game if you killed someone. You would just know by seeing the dead body, or more worryingly, not finding a body and losing the trail of blood...

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Please remove the "was killed" message along with the corpseflies & debugwindow. That way you can pretend like you died and trick your attacker.

An alternative to the corpseflies is that they appear after X number of minutes after the person was killed or simply after that somebody looted the corpse.

The murder- and banditkills would be shown to you when you have died.

This would make the game better seeing it as it would add to the realism. There is no way for you to tell if the guy you shot got killed or not without walking up to him or her and checking the pulse.

I like this - although it would generate more alt+f4 rage.

[herd 69]

This is the point, it just helps codfags in being trigger happy and not having to think about the consequences of pulling the trigger, for the sake of realism it should go.

Makes sense and solves both issues.

For the sake of realism remove all icons + the debug monitor. For the sake of realism if you die once you cant respawn. *facepalm*

This game is NOT realistic, get over it

Edited July 31, 2012 by Roboserg

[CreateNPlay (DayZ) 2]

Removing all but Food/Water/Blood Status is a good idea. Until other methods such as.

Food = Stomach Rumble when hungry, Lighter pulses of vision when dying of hunger.

Drink = Coughing for thristy, panting for dying of hunger.

Blood = Slow pained noises for losing blood, Groans for very low blood.

[DevilDriver (DayZ) 10]

For the sake of realism remove all icons + the debug monitor. For the sake of realism if you die once you cant respawn. *facepalm*

This game is NOT realistic, get over it

How about for the sake of realism we all run about in a field with airsoft guns? ....

Seriously how is this kind of input helpful?

By virtue of it being a video game im sure you can work out that Its about striking the balance of the difficulty to give the best gaming experience, which would be improved if the kill message was gone, no?

Edited July 31, 2012 by DevilDriver

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

For the sake of realism remove all icons + the debug monitor. For the sake of realism if you die once you cant respawn. *facepalm*

This game is NOT realistic, get over it

Are you going to bother making an attempt to actually discuss why you think these ideas are bad or why you disagree, or are you just going to sit there and shit on the thread? You've posted three times so far in this discussion and you haven't said a fucking thing.

There is a difference between realism (needing to eat, bandage wounds) and realistic (needing to shit, wounds get infected and kill you 90% of the time because nobody in the game washes).

If you have something to contribute, let's hear it.

Edited July 31, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

[SxyClutch 7]

In a full retail modified engine release this could work to some extent. I think if you remove the ability to see if your target was hit or died then it should be replaced by an audible ouch if they get hit or blood on the floor/fallen leaves, tarmac, grass etc if you follow the trail so to speak. Also a character should be less able to run away when shot anywhere except the arms. If a person is shot in real life unless it its a graze they rarely sprint away normally. They have to crawl or roll. or simply cannot move away but can still return fire albeit in panic mode. The true mark of a simulator rather than just a game would be that you never get told by the game if you killed someone. You would just know by seeing the dead body, or more worryingly, not finding a body and losing the trail of blood...

Yeah I understand where you are coming from. But all this is going to do is give snipers/campers even more of a upperhand than they already have. Its going to make anyone who gets the drop on someone a guranteed kill (yes thats realistic, but it will not be a enjoyable aspect of the game, it will be exploited by people who want to ONLY hunt other players). So people will just hide constantly around towns with no chance of ever being found because if they shoot someone, they can't run away, they will crawl and die. I like the idea, and I LOVE simulation games, but whats happening in DayZ is that people aren't playing as a simulation (only a handful), they are playing as a Call of Duty game, and ruining it for the people who want a simulation.

[CreateNPlay (DayZ) 2]

Nono, we should totally add on mouseover "Zombie - Level 4/ Healthbar" Lol.

[Bushmaster14 51]

Yeah OP you can take your idea and stuff it.

When a server full of players suddenly drop dead as I'm at the loading screen I WANT TO KNOW.

When a server full of players drops dead and I somehow didnt I WANT TO KNOW.

When a server full of players are being killed one after another by a serial alphabet OCD fucked in the head teleporter hacker on the rampage I WANT TO KNOW.

I wish I could say something about the "thunder dome" but that shit does not really seem to drop a hint especially if the hacker is in the ring too.

The messages will stay and the name of the killer SHOULD be made known so the big ass ban cannon can be pointed where properly needed.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Bushmaster14

[Drblodski 53]

Yeah OP you can take your idea and stuff it.

When a server full of players suddenly drop dead as I'm at the loading screen I WANT TO KNOW.

When a server full of players drops dead and I somehow didnt I WANT TO KNOW.

When a server full of players are being killed one after another by a serial alphabet OCD fucked in the head teleporter hacker on the rampage I WANT TO KNOW.

I wish I could say something about the "thunder dome" but that shit does not really seem to drop a hint especially if the hacker is in the ring too.

The messages will stay and the name of the killer SHOULD be made known so the big ass ban cannon can be pointed where properly needed.

You and some other trollers above (rosoberg seems to be an utter knob about it) seem to miss the point of the mod (read rockets mission statement) and also misunderstand the nature of a suggestions forum - its that good ideas can be fleshed out of maybe some crazy or unworkable ideas.

If this game was eventually ported to a new engine or the source code for the arma 3 VR3 engine was licensed and then modified to eradicate nearly all of the current forms of hacking that you see then the OP's ideas could be possible in some form or another. It would be a new game. Or at least more alterable by the dayz dev team than it currently is.

[JulieMeyers 78]

Yeah OP you can take your idea and stuff it.

When a server full of players suddenly drop dead as I'm at the loading screen I WANT TO KNOW.

When a server full of players drops dead and I somehow didnt I WANT TO KNOW.

When a server full of players are being killed one after another by a serial alphabet OCD fucked in the head teleporter hacker on the rampage I WANT TO KNOW.

I wish I could say something about the "thunder dome" but that shit does not really seem to drop a hint especially if the hacker is in the ring too.

The messages will stay and the name of the killer SHOULD be made known so the big ass ban cannon can be pointed where properly needed.

There is no point in being insulting just because you disagree with me. I see what you mean, but all that stuff could still be logged and viewed by the server-host or hive server. You suspect cheating? You make a report or contact the server host. That way the bancannon can still be pointed and fired.

Regarding the bugwindow - you could still keep the icons. You see how much blood you got from the tint on the drop. You suspect you're really low? Use a bloodbag or eat.

Edited July 31, 2012 by JulieMeyers