End the PvP whine threads.

[B4N3 0]

Get a grip, you've got to be kidding me.

Why would you play a mod that's classified as post-apocalyptic survival if you don't like post-apocalyptic survivals? Yes there is a lot of spawn-killing going on but isn't that ENTIRELY apart of what makes this mod good?

PvP can't be limited to one fucking area that's seriously ABSURD, this mod is built around the idea of open world. If you're safe everywhere it ruins the entire feel.

There can NOT be police, this is an open world post-apocalyptic mod, what in that entails police?

It shouldn't EVER be a bannable offense to camp grief spawning, the person is allowed to kill for supplies as LONG AS THEY WANT because this is a POST-APOCALYPTIC SURVIVAL MOD.

Now as far as a viable solution for the whining goes is to spread the spawn points throughout the Southern coast to perhaps thin the chaos of starting out. This is the only option I've seen that wouldn't interfere with PvP. If you can't motherfucking handle the heat at the airfields, get the hell out. Don't expect to go to the place with the best loot in the whole mod and not have to watch your back consistently and entirely.

tl;dr

If PvP is limited the feel of the mod will be ruined for many people, I for one am not a griefer but I will kill you if you have things I need period. Many of us want the harsh post-apocalyptic feel to be there throughout the game and not just when we have our CZ's with 200 bandages ready to go to the 'PvP zone'.

[orbital 10]

Nice first post :dodgy:

[B4N3 0]

:), I'll be getting my new computer soon and this mod is pretty much #1 on my playlist, it's literally the most niche thing I've ever seen towards my interests. If player killing is taken out or limited anyway it won't be quite the open world I'm looking forward to.

[griffinz 2816]

The player in me agrees with OP.

The mod in me says I better not moderate it.

[lt gunner 4]

OP is right, there are some minor issues that need to be worked out. Having the spawns a LITTLE more spread, or simply put, more of them out on the coast would be better. Having them all over the island would ruin the feel of making the deep trek inland, and take away the tense feeling of being in that area. If your the kind of player that wants to be in the big city, and feels safe teaming up with other people, thats there for you, and naturally there will be people who prey on you. Those that want to get away from the dense population areas and have more room for safety, have to first make it through the gauntlet that is the south. It also builds a traffic pattern of sorts that is somewhat predictable, and allows people to move to or avoid those areas as they desire. If spawns were random, people would just be everywhere, with no reason at all, other than to go to areas where more of the good stuff spawns.

[B4N3 0]

I couldn't agree more SF. As to you Griff I hope that my language wasn't too harsh, I'm simply trying to get it across that mods are created for niches, this one happens to be people who like harsh post-apocalyptic survival, I think anyone who doesn't like that should leave.

If the devs are listening to the community it would appear that they would change the mod but I think that the MAJORITY of us like the feel of the mod as is and the QQ'rs are just louder..

[griffinz 2816]

Swearing is fine in this forum bro, as long as its not directed at anyone. We're under the assumption most of the people who can get their head around Arma is 16+

[bacon55 (DayZ) 2]

Get a grip' date=' you've got to be kidding me.

Why would you play a mod that's classified as post-apocalyptic survival if you don't like post-apocalyptic survivals? Yes there is a lot of spawn-killing going on but isn't that ENTIRELY apart of what makes this mod good?

PvP can't be limited to one fucking area that's seriously ABSURD, this mod is built around the idea of open world. If you're safe everywhere it ruins the entire feel.

There can NOT be police, this is an open world post-apocalyptic mod, what in that entails police?

It shouldn't EVER be a bannable offense to camp grief spawning, the person is allowed to kill for supplies as LONG AS THEY WANT because this is a POST-APOCALYPTIC SURVIVAL MOD.

Now as far as a viable solution for the whining goes is to spread the spawn points throughout the Southern coast to perhaps thin the chaos of starting out. This is the only option I've seen that wouldn't interfere with PvP. If you can't motherfucking handle the heat at the airfields, get the hell out. Don't expect to go to the place with the best loot in the whole mod and not have to watch your back consistently and entirely.

tl;dr

If PvP is limited the feel of the mod will be ruined for many people, I for one am not a griefer but I will kill you if you have things I need period. Many of us want the harsh post-apocalyptic feel to be there throughout the game and not just when we have our CZ's with 200 bandages ready to go to the 'PvP zone'.

[/quote']

Just giving you a heads up - you're not going to have anyone to shoot at if something isn't done about it.

"The game has a title that I think means something, that means I can utilize every anti-social behaviour that gets me banned from other servers".

That's hilarious you think that, but there's a reason that can't *work*.

No one wants to be your bitch, and they'll stop playing. That's WHY they're banned from other servers.

It doesn't matter what you call it, no one wants to sit around and be your prey for fun.

[B4N3 0]

Swearing is fine in this forum bro' date=' as long as its not directed at anyone. We're under the assumption most of the people who can get their head around Arma is 16+

[/quote']

That's extremely refreshing, most of the forums I frequent are quite the opposite.

A question for you if I might?

Do you think that the devs will listen to the QQ and limit PvP or is it something they've publicly spoken against?

[griffinz 2816]

Swearing is fine in this forum bro' date=' as long as its not directed at anyone. We're under the assumption most of the people who can get their head around Arma is 16+

[/quote']

That's extremely refreshing, most of the forums I frequent are quite the opposite.

A question for you if I might?

Do you think that the devs will listen to the QQ and limit PvP or is it something they've publicly spoken against?

It has been stated very early on from a dev that PvP is here to stay. The changing skins was a compromise

[bodycount 83]

John Beanbeach waited. The flares above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were PvPers in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Rocket were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

John was a Bean Face survivor for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the beanfaces and he said to dad "I want to be a beanface daddy."

Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY GANKERS"

There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in Cherno bean factory he knew there were griefers.

"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the bandits!"

So John gotted his Makarov and blew up the wall.

"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the gank faces

"I will shoot at him" said the bean bandit and he fired the CZ 550. John Makaroved at him and tried to blew him up. But then they fell off the ladder and they were trapped and not able to kill.

"No! I must kill the bandits" he shouted

The radio said "No, John. You are the bandit"

And then John was a zombie.

More PEW PEW PEW

Less Q Q Q

I am so tired of hearing about these stupid zombies in my PvP game. If you want zombies go play a stupid zombie game. This is a hardcore Deathmatch mod. The Z in DayZ stands for CZ 550. PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW! This the is most difficult and challenging PvP I have ever seen in any video game in the history of the universe. Only the best pvPers in the interwebbutts can play this pvP on here. Stop crying because you are not skilled enough to sit in trees and hit the fire button.

L2P BADDZZZZ!!!

PEW PEW PEW!

[B4N3 0]

Snip

Just giving you a heads up - you're not going to have anyone to shoot at if something isn't done about it.

"The game has a title that I think means something' date=' that means I can utilize every anti-social behaviour that gets me banned from other servers".

That's hilarious you think that, but there's a reason that can't *work*.

No one wants to be your bitch, and they'll stop playing. That's WHY they're banned from other servers.

It doesn't matter what you call it, no one wants to sit around and be your prey for fun.

[/quote']

I find it funny you immediately assume that I'm some asshole griefer who regularly kills for fun. You don't have to sit around and get shot, will you listen to your words? You've countered not one point of my argument, by your logic anyone who plays must either stand in spawn idle and get shot or be the one doing the spawn shooting. Leave the thread if you've got no good point to make.

John Beanbeach waited. The flares above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were PvPers in the base. He didn't see them' date=' but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Rocket were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

John was a Bean Face survivor for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the beanfaces and he said to dad "I want to be a beanface daddy."

Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY GANKERS"

There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in Cherno bean factory he knew there were griefers.

"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the bandits!"

So John gotted his Makarov and blew up the wall.

"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the gank faces

"I will shoot at him" said the bean bandit and he fired the CZ 550. John Makaroved at him and tried to blew him up. But then they fell off the ladder and they were trapped and not able to kill.

"No! I must kill the bandits" he shouted

The radio said "No, John. You are the bandit"

And then John was a zombie.

More PEW PEW PEW

Less Q Q Q

I am so tired of hearing about these stupid zombies in my PvP game. If you want zombies go play a stupid zombie game. This is a hardcore Deathmatch mod. The Z in DayZ stands for CZ 550. PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW! This the is most difficult and challenging PvP I have ever seen in any video game in the history of the universe. Only the best pvPers in the interwebbutts can play this pvP on here. Stop crying because you are not skilled enough to sit in trees and hit the fire button.

L2P BADDZZZZ!!!

PEW PEW PEW!

[/quote']

Honestly you sound like a blabbering idiot. It's easy to see what you're attempting to imply is fast, the simpler truth is that you have the choice to defend your self and attempt to SURVIVE in the SURVIVAL mod or you can not play. Or of course as a third option you can QQ and try to get the mod changed to be like all the other mods.

[puppetmasterjjk 3]

Honestly you sound like a blabbering idiot. It's easy to see what you're attempting to imply is fast' date=' the simpler truth is that you have the choice to defend your self and attempt to SURVIVE in the SURVIVAL mod or you can not play. Or of course as a third option you can QQ and try to get the mod changed to be like all the other mods.

[/quote']

Don't mind Turkey, he has been going around the forum for the past couple of days making the same posts.

[griffinz 2816]

I can see this spiraling in to a name-calling fest, and a clone of the other pvp thread...keep it decent or Ill have to lock it

[bacon55 (DayZ) 2]

Snip

Just giving you a heads up - you're not going to have anyone to shoot at if something isn't done about it.

"The game has a title that I think means something' date=' that means I can utilize every anti-social behaviour that gets me banned from other servers".

That's hilarious you think that, but there's a reason that can't *work*.

No one wants to be your bitch, and they'll stop playing. That's WHY they're banned from other servers.

It doesn't matter what you call it, no one wants to sit around and be your prey for fun.

[/quote']

I find it funny you immediately assume that I'm some asshole griefer who regularly kills for fun. You don't have to sit around and get shot, will you listen to your words? You've countered not one point of my argument, by your logic anyone who plays must either stand in spawn idle and get shot or be the one doing the spawn shooting. Leave the thread if you've got no good point to make.

John Beanbeach waited. The flares above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were PvPers in the base. He didn't see them' date=' but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Rocket were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

John was a Bean Face survivor for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the beanfaces and he said to dad "I want to be a beanface daddy."

Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY GANKERS"

There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in Cherno bean factory he knew there were griefers.

"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the bandits!"

So John gotted his Makarov and blew up the wall.

"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the gank faces

"I will shoot at him" said the bean bandit and he fired the CZ 550. John Makaroved at him and tried to blew him up. But then they fell off the ladder and they were trapped and not able to kill.

"No! I must kill the bandits" he shouted

The radio said "No, John. You are the bandit"

And then John was a zombie.

More PEW PEW PEW

Less Q Q Q

I am so tired of hearing about these stupid zombies in my PvP game. If you want zombies go play a stupid zombie game. This is a hardcore Deathmatch mod. The Z in DayZ stands for CZ 550. PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW! This the is most difficult and challenging PvP I have ever seen in any video game in the history of the universe. Only the best pvPers in the interwebbutts can play this pvP on here. Stop crying because you are not skilled enough to sit in trees and hit the fire button.

L2P BADDZZZZ!!!

PEW PEW PEW!

[/quote']

Honestly you sound like a blabbering idiot. It's easy to see what you're attempting to imply is fast, the simpler truth is that you have the choice to defend your self and attempt to SURVIVE in the SURVIVAL mod or you can not play. Or of course as a third option you can QQ and try to get the mod changed to be like all the other mods.

This psychotic idea that surviving = shooting everything that moves, is evidence enough you're a greifer.

Here is my point, and it's the only one relevant to this game, or ANY other game that has had to deal with the same thing:

No one wants to be easy prey, repeatedly, for someone else who is much better geared.

In every single game that's ever had benefits to levelling, this problem has to be dealt with.

You seem to think because this is a "survival" game, everyone just has to suck it up and get their ass kicked.

That's great you think that. But it's not going to happen. People are just going to stop playing. You obviously don't understand human beings if you can't realize this is the inevitable result of your activity, and with no change in the structure of the mod.

It's the same reason that PK'ers have to be kicked from Arma. Sure, in real life there is some random friendly fire, even psychotic mass murder. But it's ABNORMAL, no one wants to play the culled sheep to a mad man constantly. That's ridiculous anyone would want to, and it's why every game has to deal with anti-social "survival" or "this is what reality should be like", nutjobs in every game.

[bodycount 83]

I can see this spiraling in to a name-calling fest' date=' and a clone of the other pvp thread...keep it decent or Ill have to lock it

[/quote']

Thanks buddy. Good to see you looking out for me. I am not sure but people sure do love to insult me for some reason. Nice guys finish last :(

[B4N3 0]

This psychotic idea that surviving = shooting everything that moves' date=' is evidence enough you're a greifer.

Here is my point, and it's the only one relevant to this game, or ANY other game that has had to deal with the same thing:

No one wants to be easy prey, repeatedly, for someone else who is much better geared.

In every single game that's ever had benefits to levelling, this problem has to be dealt with.

You seem to think because this is a "survival" game, everyone just has to suck it up and get their ass kicked.

That's great you think that. But it's not going to happen. People are just going to stop playing. You obviously don't understand human beings if you can't realize this is the inevitable result of your activity, and with no change in the structure of the mod.

It's the same reason that PK'ers have to be kicked from Arma. Sure, in real life there is some random friendly fire, even psychotic mass murder. But it's ABNORMAL, no one wants to play the culled sheep to a mad man constantly. That's ridiculous anyone would want to, and it's why every game has to deal with anti-social "survival" or "this is what reality should be like", nutjobs in every game.

[/quote']

I don't think you understand what a post-apocalyptic scenario would look like, PK'ers aren't kicked in Arma, TK'ers are kicked in Arma SIMPLE AS THAT. We aren't on a team in the wastes, if I come across you and I need food I'm going to ask for it nicely and then I'm going to take it if need be following the question.

We're all going to behave differently and it's a part of the mod to realize that some people are going to want to team up with you and some are just going to kill you for supplies. DEAL WITH IT.

Seriously suck it up, really, there seem to be PLENTY of people here willing to team up to avoid getting murdered, seems to me you just don't want to message them, you want to run around with no dangers and do nothing but kill npcs. there are mods/games for that, this one is not one of them.

And noted Griff. I'm trying to bring some perspective from the other side of the wall.

[Panzerfaust (DayZ) 5]

Snip

Just giving you a heads up - you're not going to have anyone to shoot at if something isn't done about it.

"The game has a title that I think means something' date=' that means I can utilize every anti-social behaviour that gets me banned from other servers".

That's hilarious you think that, but there's a reason that can't *work*.

No one wants to be your bitch, and they'll stop playing. That's WHY they're banned from other servers.

It doesn't matter what you call it, no one wants to sit around and be your prey for fun.

[/quote']

I find it funny you immediately assume that I'm some asshole griefer who regularly kills for fun. You don't have to sit around and get shot, will you listen to your words? You've countered not one point of my argument, by your logic anyone who plays must either stand in spawn idle and get shot or be the one doing the spawn shooting. Leave the thread if you've got no good point to make.

John Beanbeach waited. The flares above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were PvPers in the base. He didn't see them' date=' but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Rocket were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

John was a Bean Face survivor for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the beanfaces and he said to dad "I want to be a beanface daddy."

Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY GANKERS"

There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in Cherno bean factory he knew there were griefers.

"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the bandits!"

So John gotted his Makarov and blew up the wall.

"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the gank faces

"I will shoot at him" said the bean bandit and he fired the CZ 550. John Makaroved at him and tried to blew him up. But then they fell off the ladder and they were trapped and not able to kill.

"No! I must kill the bandits" he shouted

The radio said "No, John. You are the bandit"

And then John was a zombie.

More PEW PEW PEW

Less Q Q Q

I am so tired of hearing about these stupid zombies in my PvP game. If you want zombies go play a stupid zombie game. This is a hardcore Deathmatch mod. The Z in DayZ stands for CZ 550. PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW! This the is most difficult and challenging PvP I have ever seen in any video game in the history of the universe. Only the best pvPers in the interwebbutts can play this pvP on here. Stop crying because you are not skilled enough to sit in trees and hit the fire button.

L2P BADDZZZZ!!!

PEW PEW PEW!

[/quote']

Honestly you sound like a blabbering idiot. It's easy to see what you're attempting to imply is fast, the simpler truth is that you have the choice to defend your self and attempt to SURVIVE in the SURVIVAL mod or you can not play. Or of course as a third option you can QQ and try to get the mod changed to be like all the other mods.

This psychotic idea that surviving = shooting everything that moves, is evidence enough you're a greifer.

Here is my point, and it's the only one relevant to this game, or ANY other game that has had to deal with the same thing:

No one wants to be easy prey, repeatedly, for someone else who is much better geared.

In every single game that's ever had benefits to levelling, this problem has to be dealt with.

You seem to think because this is a "survival" game, everyone just has to suck it up and get their ass kicked.

That's great you think that. But it's not going to happen. People are just going to stop playing. You obviously don't understand human beings if you can't realize this is the inevitable result of your activity, and with no change in the structure of the mod.

It's the same reason that PK'ers have to be kicked from Arma. Sure, in real life there is some random friendly fire, even psychotic mass murder. But it's ABNORMAL, no one wants to play the culled sheep to a mad man constantly. That's ridiculous anyone would want to, and it's why every game has to deal with anti-social "survival" or "this is what reality should be like", nutjobs in every game.

In real life there's never been a zombie apocalypse. All that stuff would get much, much more common if there ever is one, I can guarantee you.

Also, please, good gear is an advantage, but not one that can't be outdone by keeping a cool head, growing a pair, and shooting back. Stop acting like you're helpless, because you're not. I killed someone with a pimped out setup who was shooting at me because I was able to line up a shot and kill him with a single bullet from my Lee-Enfield that I found in a shed about 3 minutes after I spawned. (Butterfingers, my character, managed to lose all that lewt when he slipped and broke his neck by falling off of a ladder on a hospital roof.)

[bacon55 (DayZ) 2]

This psychotic idea that surviving = shooting everything that moves' date=' is evidence enough you're a greifer.

Here is my point, and it's the only one relevant to this game, or ANY other game that has had to deal with the same thing:

No one wants to be easy prey, repeatedly, for someone else who is much better geared.

In every single game that's ever had benefits to levelling, this problem has to be dealt with.

You seem to think because this is a "survival" game, everyone just has to suck it up and get their ass kicked.

That's great you think that. But it's not going to happen. People are just going to stop playing. You obviously don't understand human beings if you can't realize this is the inevitable result of your activity, and with no change in the structure of the mod.

It's the same reason that PK'ers have to be kicked from Arma. Sure, in real life there is some random friendly fire, even psychotic mass murder. But it's ABNORMAL, no one wants to play the culled sheep to a mad man constantly. That's ridiculous anyone would want to, and it's why every game has to deal with anti-social "survival" or "this is what reality should be like", nutjobs in every game.

[/quote']

I don't think you understand what a post-apocalyptic scenario would look like, PK'ers aren't kicked in Arma, TK'ers are kicked in Arma SIMPLE AS THAT. We aren't on a team in the wastes, if I come across you and I need food I'm going to ask for it nicely and then I'm going to take it if need be following the question.

We're all going to behave differently and it's a part of the mod to realize that some people are going to want to team up with you and some are just going to kill you for supplies. DEAL WITH IT.

Seriously suck it up, really, there seem to be PLENTY of people here willing to team up to avoid getting murdered, seems to me you just don't want to message them, you want to run around with no dangers and do nothing but kill npcs. there are mods/games for that, this one is not one of them.

And noted Griff. I'm trying to bring some perspective from the other side of the wall.

Suck it up isn't gonna cut it there champ. Neither myself nor the vast majority of others will continue to fall prey to advanced weaponry wielded by man children exercising their impotent fantasies.

It's everything that's bad about PK'ing with that disgusting air of justification.

The game needs to be dangerous, it needs to be hard, but I'm not going to keep playing a MUCH more time consuming version of get raped by the A10 in the Domination Spawn Point. Because that's all it is at this point. Try to make it something else.

Honestly, you truly believe this is anything CLOSE to an appropriate simulation? With you sitting at your computer desk, at home, able to respawn? You think that makes sense?

If so, I'm done, please don't respond to me anymore. That is a catastrophic level of cognitive dissonance.

[B4N3 0]

In real life there's never been a zombie apocalypse. All that stuff would get much' date=' much more common if there ever is one, I can guarantee you.

Also, please, good gear is an advantage, but not one that can't be outdone by keeping a cool head, growing a pair, and shooting back. Stop acting like you're helpless, because you're not. I killed someone with a pimped out setup who was shooting at me because I was able to line up a shot and kill him with a single bullet from my Lee-Enfield that I found in a shed about 3 minutes after I spawned. (Butterfingers, my character, managed to lose all that lewt when he slipped and broke his neck by falling off of a ladder on a hospital roof.)

[/quote']

You can ALWAYS defend your self, you can ALWAYS run away. Hell you can even kill that griefing sniper with your cute little makarov, this mod would be another NPC killer without the damned free PvP.

[bacon55 (DayZ) 2]

In real life there's never been a zombie apocalypse. All that stuff would get much' date=' much more common if there ever is one, I can guarantee you.

Also, please, good gear is an advantage, but not one that can't be outdone by keeping a cool head, growing a pair, and shooting back. Stop acting like you're helpless, because you're not. I killed someone with a pimped out setup who was shooting at me because I was able to line up a shot and kill him with a single bullet from my Lee-Enfield that I found in a shed about 3 minutes after I spawned. (Butterfingers, my character, managed to lose all that lewt when he slipped and broke his neck by falling off of a ladder on a hospital roof.)

[/quote']

You can ALWAYS defend your self, you can ALWAYS run away. Hell you can even kill that griefing sniper with your cute little makarov, this mod would be another NPC killer without the damned free PvP.

That's utter nonsense.

If the person who has you in their sights with a decent weapon is a good shot you're dead. PvP basically requires some level of equality.

Would you consider it still PvP if a bunch of them weren't armed? Because they might as well not be when it's a pistol or shotgun versus an assault rifle.

It's like being the spear chucking natives going against gatling armed British troops in Africa.

Hardly much of a game.

[B4N3 0]

Suck it up isn't gonna cut it there champ. Neither myself nor the vast majority of others will continue to fall prey to advanced weaponry wielded by man children exercising their impotent fantasies.

It's everything that's bad about PK'ing with that disgusting air of justification.

The game needs to be dangerous' date=' it needs to be hard, but I'm not going to keep playing a MUCH more time consuming version of get raped by the A10 in the Domination Spawn Point. Because that's all it is at this point. Try to make it something else.

Honestly, you truly believe this is anything CLOSE to an appropriate simulation? With you sitting at your computer desk, at home, able to respawn? You think that makes sense?

If so, I'm done, please don't respond to me anymore. That is a catastrophic level of cognitive dissonance.

[/quote']

Excuse my double post but you can't be serious..this is as close to a simulation as we have at the moment, what you think making everyone invulnerable in areas of the map is more accurate? Or that making people take less damage to players would be accurate?

Yes it's PK'ing but remember it's not TK'ing. Man up and try to survive against the bandits that look to harm you, man up and find a group of 'decent' people to run around with and get from place to place more safely, man up and SURVIVE in the SURVIVAL mod. If you don't want to do those things leave, really stop playing.

The spawn sniping is NOT as bad as you'd make it seem, if you'd have some tactical sense about how to avoid getting killed you'd see that. Getting ganked anywhere is the beauty and rawness that IS this mod. Take it or leave it.

Oh and people aren't mindlessly just SLAUGHTERING everyone, the VAST MAJORITY are scared of you killing them, losing their supplies, or maybe even need your supplies, such is fucking life in the post-apocalyptic world. DEAL WITH IT.

EDIT:

And another thing, if you've got a shotgun try not to engage in long range combat derp. OR if you've got nothing but a pistol and you hear the wizzing of a sniper round, run for cover and get the fuck out. Make an attempt to survive, seems to be you just like whining.

[Panzerfaust (DayZ) 5]

In real life there's never been a zombie apocalypse. All that stuff would get much' date=' much more common if there ever is one, I can guarantee you.

Also, please, good gear is an advantage, but not one that can't be outdone by keeping a cool head, growing a pair, and shooting back. Stop acting like you're helpless, because you're not. I killed someone with a pimped out setup who was shooting at me because I was able to line up a shot and kill him with a single bullet from my Lee-Enfield that I found in a shed about 3 minutes after I spawned. (Butterfingers, my character, managed to lose all that lewt when he slipped and broke his neck by falling off of a ladder on a hospital roof.)

[/quote']

You can ALWAYS defend your self, you can ALWAYS run away. Hell you can even kill that griefing sniper with your cute little makarov, this mod would be another NPC killer without the damned free PvP.

That's utter nonsense.

If the person who has you in their sights with a decent weapon is a good shot you're dead. PvP basically requires some level of equality.

Would you consider it still PvP if a bunch of them weren't armed? Because they might as well not be when it's a pistol or shotgun versus an assault rifle.

It's like being the spear chucking natives going against gatling armed British troops in Africa.

Hardly much of a game.

Honestly, unless the person has hours and hours of shooting experience in ArmA, and unless you're caught out in the middle of an open field/standing still (not really a smart move to begin with) you're on more even ground than you think if you have any kind of long rifle or even just a shotgun with slugs. The most dangerous time to be caught is when you're looting some guy's corpse in an open field, you're a sitting duck then.

When I was ambushed by the guy in question I was investigating a house near the edge of a forest. When the shooting started I vaulted over a fence and ran into the woods and was able to return fire from there. Again, unless the guy is using an aimbot or is an exceptionally good shot, there's usually a way to fight back or evade until you CAN fight back. If you're in a situation where you can do neither of those things you need to act under the assumption that you're being watched and you need to be as erratic a target as possible. It's difficult, but it's certainly not utter nonsense as you suggest.

[griffinz 2816]

Yep, clone of original thread.

Take it there guys.