john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted July 29, 2012 Trying to find a good deal on a dedi just for running DayZ mod, seen many clans running multiple instances on the same server meaning that spare RAM is scarce or when they have 50 users per instance the server gets clogged up and needs rebooting/endless "waiting for character to create" sequences etc. I dont want this... I prefer to have excess power and not need it than the other way round.I am only looking to run 2 instances and this seems to be the best deal I have found so far. I was ideally looking for an HP system, you know, the ones that run 4 cpu's with 6 cores per cpu but cant seem to find any.What do you think of this spec? £600 per month...Dell Poweredge Enterprise-Grade Server2x Intel Xeon Hexa Core CPUs (with HyperThreading, for 16x virtual CPU cores!)24GB DDR3 ECC RAM6x 300GB 10,000RPM Serial-Attached SCSI HDDs in RAID 10 configuration (Approximately 900GB usable storage)4000GB monthly data transfer allowance on a 100mbit uncontended switch portI am thinking instead of just running two instances, I can create 2 virtual machines from the single machine, so they are completely isolated??? Then "bind" a cpu per VPS.Also I thought "hexa" meant 6 cores therefore thats 12 threads not 16 threads like the server spec says?I already have a normal web host with them and they have been awesome in both uptime and customer service, so I dont mind paying extra for that piece of mind.What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james222 49 Posted July 29, 2012 Hyperthreading does not work well with ArmA2.You will be able to host 10 servers, giving each server 1 core and another shared core per every server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Vengeance (DayZ) 31 Posted July 29, 2012 You will need Tb's of bandwidth dude.Also you can have like unlimited servers with that power lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orcworm 18 Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) Tsohost would be laughing all the way to the bank, you can do much better for £600 / month.IIRC ARMA 2 only utilises two cores (one main + one AI) so the excess power would be wasted anyway. Edited July 29, 2012 by Orcworm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted July 29, 2012 Tsohost would be laughing all the way to the bank, you can do much better for £600 / month.IIRC ARMA 2 only utilises two cores (one main + one AI) so the excess power would be wasted anyway.Example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orcworm 18 Posted July 29, 2012 Example?Depends, strictly UK only or Europe in general? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted July 29, 2012 UK preferably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orcworm 18 Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) http://www.redstation.com2 more SAS drives, gbit port w/ 36TB more bandwidth allowance and £160 odd cheaper. Edited July 29, 2012 by Orcworm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted July 29, 2012 Damn thats impressive! How many instances could that run without struggling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orcworm 18 Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) About 15? Main bottleneck is the CPU in any case. If I were you I'd look more into colocation than renting outright, slot a couple of e5-26xxs in a box and it'd fly. Edited July 29, 2012 by Orcworm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted August 1, 2012 http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1052232Well, thats Redstation out then. Any other suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orcworm 18 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) http://www.leaseweb.comhttp://orcworm.co.uk/image/N8w.pngYou're going to have a long search ahead of you if you think companies as large as this have 100% positive reviews across the board though. Edited August 1, 2012 by Orcworm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrispowdrill@yahoo.co.uk 10 Posted August 1, 2012 Wouldnt it b better to buy a server and then have a datacenter colo it for you? Itll work out cheaper in the long run rather than spending £600 a month then when your board of the game atleast the server is yours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted August 3, 2012 I am looking at the datacentre option now, primarily because my business uses a server and I could actually host that there too and it would work out much cheaper. Unfortunatly though struggling to figure out who is decent for colo on a 1gbit port with 30tb+ a month.Any ideas how many instances of dayz i could run on the following specs?Poweredge R900: 4 x Quad Core Xeon 2.93Ghz 64GB RAM £2100 HP DL380 G5 Dual Quad Core Xeon 3.0Ghz (E5450) 32GB RAM Proliant Server £1300Also, I have been offered 10 of these for £40 each: HP Proliant DL380 G4 Dual Xeon 3.2Ghz 64-Bit Server 4GB RAM DVD x64 2U RackmountBut i cant figure out which excact cpu they have and they can only be upgraded to 12GB of ram. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lith 80 Posted August 3, 2012 For 600 pounds a month you should buy your own server and rent rackspace somewhere. OUCH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted August 3, 2012 Thats what I am doing now but trying to figure out the best option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nohrt 18 Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) @86JRmy DayZ servers are running on 2x Xeon 5670. thats 12 cores at 2.9ghz.Do note that you wont be able to run game servers of 50 slots. the Arma 2 server engine responds better to cpu frequency and doesnt allocate to multicore that well.With that being said you should be able to run 4x 40 slot servers if you set affinity for 3-4cores per server with those cpu's. But you will get close to your 4TB bandwidth. I have 2x40 slot servers and i run just over 2tb a month.Running the servers inside a VM is a bad idea. Just run multiple server instances via service.Also a r900 is way overkill for what you need. Look at getting a r410 or r420. Edited August 3, 2012 by nohrt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted August 4, 2012 Thanks! I take it HT is a no no too?I found this server and the company is on ebay with 100% feedback and over 20k trades BUT it seems way too good to be true? HP ProLiant DL585 G2 4x QUAD Dual-Core 8218 2.6Ghz 32Gb VMware 64bit Server £250 ex VAT, P400 512Mb RAID BBWC, 2 x PSU +++£300 inc vat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orcworm 18 Posted August 4, 2012 It's fine for the price if you want a 6 year old system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john@thesmileyone.co.uk 7 Posted August 5, 2012 Ok.Another option is I build a pc similair to my spec, 2500k etc, overclock it and then colocate it. But i read somewhere that desktop/gaming machines suffer from low I/O speeds? Is this the case with socket 1155 and better? I specced a system up for £1500 that includes a pair of those SSD PCI cards that pull 900mbit/s, surely its not going to be a problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites