ALT F4 is not the problem...

[Slyguy65 499]

It is people who abort and server hop during a firefight to get a vantage point on their enemies...

Ive seen (and been a part of...sadly) groups of people who exploit the hell out of the game but to be honest the game is broken so i really don't care or consider most of it exploitation...except when the exploiting affects other people...example, i have no issues with people who DC from zombies, or dupe gear for friends (though it gets out of hand IMO i mean when you start duping food and water...that is just pathetic TBH), Hell even ALT F4 from OTHER PEOPLE im slightly ok with because that is just a tactic to allow them to run away....most the time im geared and don't need gear so i shoot at who i see cause i don't trust them and i assume they are D bags looking to take my shit so whether they die of ALT F4...they are gone and out of my hair so whatever...

You are probably wondering what is the problem if not the aforementioned examples?

Server hoppers...your like what????

Well the truth is not the act of server hopping but how you go about it just like disconnecting....in some peoples eyes some people just hate people who disconnect when they are trying to get a kill...which is just them being angry cause THEY didn't get something THEY wanted...boohoo then there are others who just cry about zombie DC cause "it goes against the mod" and blah blah ya whatever it isn't affecting you why do you care...those people remind me of those ignorant religious pricks who picket signs and protest saying "god hates [insert demographic here]" or anyone who gets agitated or forms a strong opinion on something news related (i.e travon martin, casey anthony) I just sit and listen to people i know whine about some matter that doesn't even concern them...people personalize shit they have no business making personal...since it isn't.

ANYWAY ya server hopping the "little bitches" ( as i call them), you know the ones who you shoot at they hide and DC then log back on and shoot you from some vantage point. They are the plague IMO not these other people they are the common cold when compared to the POLB (plague of little bitches). Also the people who are "barrack hoppers" and those who just hop around known loot spawns...i have mixed feelings about that some are just poor noobs who ran straight there and server hop cause when they got to the airfield on their server nothing was there...so they hop...but then OTHER people just camp the place and usually just camp it for PVP reasons ...server hopping to PVP is just as pathetic and D-baggish as hopping and circling around when in a fire fight. Yaaaa im talking to you city hoppers and tower hoppers....how pathetic if you can't kill real players but only fresh spawns thinking it will make your penis better...guess what it doesn't, to even think it would become bigger from killing newbies is pathetic...now killing a wookie with a DMR in starry now that makes your dong grow...

TL:DR??

Nope.

But by all means...do post comments that may or may not be completely ignorant...or biased...i will read them anyway cause im a great human being...ya

P.S i have only ALT F4'd maybe twice? All i know for sure is that the only times ive ever done it is when i was unconscious usually from random knock outs and didn't feel like dealing with and and wanted to get off the game (no ability to respawn when KO), i remember one time from combat but that is only cause i was unconscious had good gear...losing blood and the dude who got me down was just a sniper bitch who didn't even come to loot me so i ALT F4'd and got off then later called a friend to get me (what im just making cooperation valid people, not my fault the only way cooperation is even viable is by having someone come get you if your down...)

P.S.S To any grammer nazis...stfu the arrow keys are broken when typing on these forums so im not going to meticulously click in between each tiny typo ...plus its the internet people don't read they skim and the ones who do read just read it to criticize the grammer....true story...

[bobfrankenstein 0]

TL:DR

[Flurf 25]

i have no issues with people DC who from zombies, or dupe gear for friends

I disagree completely with the duping, anything that gives you an unfair advantage over another player is an exploitation, regardless if it's as easy as hitting esc.

[NoRegrets 495]

When the so called "ALT+F4 Problem" is "fixed" by a 5 sec delay or something the forum is full with people complaining that they respawn at the coast the day after ...

[Rek Seven 37]

Anything that gives you an unfair advantage is a exploit but exploiting the game in a way that effects another players experience is the worst kind.

People how do this will eventually ruin the game for everyone because they will force the developers to place harsh restrictions/punishments on us all.

Day Z has many problems and although alt- f4 may not be "the" problem, it is certainly one of the biggest.

[Quagmire (DayZ) 119]

Remember kids - Stay in school or you may become as stupid as OP..

[Slyguy65 499]

I disagree completely with the duping, anything that gives you an unfair advantage over another player is an exploitation, regardless if it's as easy as hitting esc.

Understandable

[Slyguy65 499]

Anything that gives you an unfair advantage is a exploit but exploiting the game in a way that effects another players experience is the worst kind.

People how do this will eventually ruin the game for everyone because they will force the developers to place harsh restrictions/punishments on us all.

Day Z has many problems and although alt- f4 may not be "the" problem, it is certainly one of the biggest.

Ya that is my point the problem is the way the problems that exist are being prioritized...it is laughable IMO they are focusing on fixing all the ways people can exploit to make it "easier" instead of just fixing the core of the game *COUGH* zombies....ai...physics...everything about them.

Once they fix the actual mod then they can start fixing how people act in the game....just sayin you can't argue that fair logic.

[Nalestom 116]

Ya that is my point the problem is the way the problems that exist are being prioritized...it is laughable IMO they are focusing on fixing all the ways people can exploit to make it "easier" instead of just fixing the core of the game *COUGH* zombies....ai...physics...everything about them.

Once they fix the actual mod then they can start fixing how people act in the game....just sayin you can't argue that fair logic.

Rocket has stated before that the glitchy zombies, AI pathing, and physics are all due to limitations of the engine, NOT the ignorance of the DayZ coding team. He's also stated that a number of the issues with zombies and physics will be fixed when the standalone version of the game is released.

Exploitations are exploitations. By definition, they are major flaws in the code that need to be fixed. By your logic, glitchy and easy-to-kill zombies are the reason why we had a huge influx of hackers recently, and that's simply not true. You can not honestly point at the multiple servers who were nuked, the hundreds of people who were teleported and slaughtered for the entertainment of hackers, and the ridiculous item imbalance on certain server, and claim that all of that is because zombies aren't challenging enough.

Fixing the glitches WILL get rid of the majority of the hackers and duplicators. Fiddling with the zombie AI and with the physics of the engine will not.

Edited July 28, 2012 by Nalestom

[Slyguy65 499]

When the so called "ALT+F4 Problem" is "fixed" by a 5 sec delay or something the forum is full with people complaining that they respawn at the coast the day after ...

I saw a thread how people think the DC issue should be solved by having the body stay in the world for 5 minutes....gamers they don't realize just how long 5 minutes is 2 minutes is much more fair...i also heard another way they will deal with it is by giving "warnings" and get bans for set times depending on how much they do it (i.e one day, one week....and permanent im like...WTF perma ban just for DCing...i think it should be one day, one week then a month...then just repeat the process perma ban is just too harsh IMO they aren't cheaters just cowards...and who isn't a cowards really? If they do it after being banned for a month it will just repeat the process...if they feel like playing just once a month they way they want let them they will just get themselves banned again so what harm?

[Slyguy65 499]

Rocket has stated before that the glitchy zombies, AI pathing, and physics are all due to limitations of the engine, NOT the ignorance of the DayZ coding team. He's also stated that a number of the issues with zombies and physics will be fixed when the standalone version of the game is released.

Exploitations are exploitations. By definition, they are major flaws in the code that need to be fixed. By your logic, glitchy and easy-to-kill zombies are the reason why we had a huge influx of hackers recently, and that's simply not true. You can not honestly point at the multiple servers who were nuked, the hundreds of people who were teleported and slaughtered for the entertainment of hackers, and the ridiculous item imbalance on certain server, and claim that all of that is because zombies aren't challenging enough.

Fixing the glitches WILL get rid of the majority of the hackers and duplicators. Fiddling with the zombie AI and with the physics of the engine will not.

I never mentioned hackers ever....in that whole post i merely talked about the server hoppers and those who exploit to harm others....granted hackers would be relevant i did not mention them. NOR did i say the reason the mod is broken due to the mod developers...i just said how they should fix zombies before fixing exploits that people use to benefit themselves, if they can't then ok....if they are just ignoring it cause it is hard and just easier to fix these other issues than ya...no

IF it isn't obvious i am all for the ALT F4 fix..though i would just like to see them focus on the mod instead of how people play the mod...

Edited July 28, 2012 by Slyguy65

[Nalestom 116]

I never mentioned hackers ever....in that whole post i merely talked about the server hoppers and those who exploit to harm others....granted hackers would be relevant i did not mention them. NOR did i say the reason the mod is broken due to the mod developers...i just said how they should fix that before fixing other things, if they can't then ok....if they are just ignoring it cause it is hard and just easier to fix these other issues than ya...no

They're not ignoring it because it's difficult. They're ignoring it because they've done the best they can, and the reason they can't do better is because the engine physically will not let them.

Hackers, Alt+F4ers, ghosters, duplicators...you're all alike. You're all in the same pool, you're all the same archetype. There's no such thing as a benevolent exploiter, because that's an oxymoron.

[Chris <3 25]

I dont usually... but tl:dr

From what little I read all I can say is:

It takes me like fucking 20 minutes to join a server.

Might be aussie servers that suck ass.