Zakificus 10 Posted July 27, 2012 I heard some rumors before, I forget where, that the wiki pages and everything aren't totally accurate. IIRC the page itself said that they are generated by using the results of what people have found. Using that logic, it is theoretically possible a gun could be so rare that nobody has found it (and reported it to be added to the list). Could someone confirm whether or not there are in fact weapons in game that exist that aren't on the wiki pages?Obviously some of the crazy stuff is hacked in, but is it possible that there are weapons that are there, just so rarely spawned that nobody has added them to a wiki database? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickSkope 1 Posted July 27, 2012 God tier AA12_PMC VSS_vintorez SCAR_H_STD_TWS_SD m8_tws_sd M110_TWS_EP1 Demigod tier BAF_L85A2_RIS_CWS SCAR_L_STD_EGLM_TWS AKS_74_GOSHAWK DMR M110_NVG_EP1 SCAR_H_LNG_Sniper SCAR_H_LNG_Sniper_SD SCAR_H_STD_EGLM_Spect SCAR_H_CQC_CCO_SD m107_TWS_EP1 BAF_AS50_TWS m8_tws Pecheneg Legendary tier m8_holo_sd SCAR_L_CQC_CCO_SD M4A1_AIM_SD_camo G36_C_SD_camo AKS_74_UN_kobra M14_EP1 SCAR_H_CQC_CCO AKS_74_NSPU FN_FAL_ANPVS4 SVD_NSPU_EP1 bizon_silenced m107 BAF_AS50_scoped PK Mk_48_DZ M249_DZ Epic tier MP5SD SVD BAF_LRR_scoped_W Sa58V_RCO_EP1 BAF_L85A2_RIS_SUSAT BAF_L85A2_RIS_ACOG BAF_L86A2_ACOG BAF_L85A2_UGL_SUSAT BAF_L85A2_UGL_ACOG m16a4_acg M4SPR M16A4_ACG_GL M4A3_RCO_GL_EP1 SCAR_L_STD_Mk4CQT SCAR_L_STD_EGLM_RCO AKS_74_pso AK_107_pso AK_107_GL_pso RPK_74 FN_FAL M4A3_CCO_EP1 m8_compact_pmc SCAR_L_CQC_Holo M60A4_EP1 M240_DZ Survivor tier AK_47_M AK_47_S Sa58P_EP1 Sa58V_EP1 Sa58V_CCO_EP1 AK_74 AKS_74 AKS_74_U AK_74_GL AKS_74_kobra AK_107_kobra AK_107_GL_kobra AK_74_GL_kobra G36C_camo G36K_camo M16A2 m16a4 M4A1 M4A1_Aim M16A4_GL M4A1_HWS_GL SCAR_L_CQC SCAR_L_STD_HOLO SCAR_L_CQC_EGLM_Holo m8_carbine_pmc BAF_L85A2_RIS_Holo BAF_L85A2_UGL_Holo bizon M1014 Saiga12K LeeEnfield UZI_SD_EP1 glock17_EP1 Okay tier MP5A5 M24 huntingrifle UZI_EP1 M9SD Sa61_EP1 Winchester1866 Crossbow Shit tier Colt1911 revolver_EP1 M9 MakarovSD This list is pulled from the PBO IIRC, and it has all the dayz included weapons. While it has been confirmed that a bunch of these are not enabled yet, some MAY be enabled, and only very few or close to 0 people have found them, therefore they are dismissed as hacker weapons.I dunno, just what I heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzy4ever 22 Posted July 27, 2012 This coming from an ex-hacker: Most of those weapons don't exist in dayz. SCAR doesn't exist, G36C doesn't, and many many more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Jones 30 Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) That is a list Rocket was playing with when he was thinking about creating the mod - it definitely isn't accurate for what's currently implemented. If you go look at daydb.com it will give you a list of the possible weapons for the current version of the mod. They mine the actual data files from the mod, so if the weapon isn't in their list, you can safely assume that it's hacked in. Edited July 27, 2012 by Bubba Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Askar 177 Posted July 27, 2012 If it's on the wiki list, trust it. If not, feel free to pick it up (I've read numerous times that Rocket has said you only get banned for spawning hacked weapons, not using them) unless it's obviously hacked (any vehicle mounted weapon...).While it is theoretically possible that there could be an item out there noone or next to noone has acquired, the likelihood of that being the case is so incredibly remote that we can basically rule it out. If such an item were to be found, have no fear that it would be duped rather quickly and in short order the community would find out about it.I think about the rarest items now are satchel charges (and/or M136? I'm not 100% on either of these), because incredibly few people have them. That said, of those people that have managed to find some, several of them have duped these items to the point that people are aware of them existing. It's not listed on the wiki, but it was mentioned once in some obscure patch changelog from April, so satchel charges are indeed legit.So while it's possible that there are items like you are describing (see satchel charges, plenty of people still don't believe/are aware of them), the likelihood of an actual weapon being that rare but still unknown is rather low. I've heard rumors that there are several other weapons coded into the mod, but none of them are enabled or some such. When stuff that's truly rare begins popping up, we'll hear about it. People like to brag, and even if the first 20 people keep it secret, someone will let the cat out of the bag, so to speak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarinjaNinja 80 Posted July 27, 2012 Found 3 M4A1 Holo SD's in a tent after we killed 2 clan members driving a pickup truck. Guessing they were hackers but that is the only gun I questioned everything else we found was legit.M4A1 Holo SD - M4 with Holographic sight, Grenade launcher attachment and silenced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Jones 30 Posted July 27, 2012 so satchel charges are indeed legit.Just for reference, in the mined data files (from daydb.com, for example) they are called pipe bombs - that's why a lot of people still don't believe they exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Jones 30 Posted July 27, 2012 M4A1 Holo SD - M4 with Holographic sight, Grenade launcher attachment and silenced.Yes, it's hacked as it appears you know. There isn't a Holo variant that is SD in the game legally - if there was one, it would be my favorite gun though :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzy4ever 22 Posted July 27, 2012 Yes, it's hacked as it appears you know. There isn't a Holo variant that is SD in the game legally - if there was one, it would be my favorite gun though :)Actually that isn't hacked - I've found it in barracks before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Askar 177 Posted July 27, 2012 Actually that isn't hacked - I've found it in barracks before.Pretty sure it's hacked. People do leave hacked weapons laying around from time to time. It's possible that somehow someone managed to get a hold of a hacked one, and then found a weapon they liked more in a barracks and traded for it. I personally swapped out a M4A3 CCO for a M4A1 Camo SD the other day, I can see someone trading the assault rifle in question just as easily for something they preferred.You could also have mistaken another weapon for that, but there is no legit holo + SD combo in the game as of now. You can check the database. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuzzy4ever 22 Posted July 27, 2012 I have legit-playing friends who have their hands all over it, seems very unlikely that they would all come across one on the ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Askar 177 Posted July 27, 2012 Well, I just checked the database and it doesn't exist. Someone may have hacked it in, found a hacked one and duped it, or something. Your friends may have found it purely legit, but it is not in the loot tables pulled directly from the game itself.http://dayzdb.com/database/weaponsThat is every confirmed-legit weapon, pulled straight from the game itself... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boggs 2 Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Okay tier [*] MP5A5 [*] M24 huntingrifle [*] UZI_EP1 [*] M9SD [*] Sa61_EP1 [*] Winchester1866 [*] Crossbow [*] [*] Shit tier [*] Colt1911 [*] revolver_EP1 [*] M9 [*] MakarovSD Crossbow should be in the shit tier Edited July 27, 2012 by Boggs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shea 13 Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Well, I just checked the database and it doesn't exist.News Flash: it does exist (M4 Holo SD). I've found multiple of them on crashed helis over time Edited July 27, 2012 by Shea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Jones 30 Posted July 27, 2012 News Flash: it does exist (M4 Holo SD). I've found multiple of them on crashed helis over timeAre you sure? Next time take a screenshot please. This is what's available form a heli currently (minus the ghillie/camo): FN_FAL weapon 0.87% bizon_silenced weapon 2.17% M14_EP1 weapon 2.17% FN_FAL_ANPVS4 weapon 0.87% M107_DZ weapon 0.43% BAF_AS50_scoped weapon 0.87% Mk_48_DZ weapon 1.3% M249_DZ weapon 2.17% BAF_L85A2_RIS_CWS weapon 0.43% DMR weapon 4.35% military 43.48% medical 21.74% MedBox0 object 4.35% NVGoggles weapon 0.43% AmmoBoxSmall_556 object 4.35% AmmoBoxSmall_762 object 4.35% Skin_Camo1_DZ magazine 3.48% Skin_Sniper1_DZ magazine 2.17% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceallach 56 Posted July 27, 2012 News Flash: it does exist (M4 Holo SD). I've found multiple of them on crashed helis over timeNewsflash: The gun you are talking about is M4A1 CCO SDThere is no silenced Holo in DayZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
