DogMeat (DayZ) 1 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) This whole shoot on sight issue reminded me of a quote from Jared Diamond (the author of Guns, Germs, and Steel) in a Michael Shermer book The Mind of the Market:As Jared Diamond once told me about his research on Papua New Guinea hunter-gatherers: Should you happen to meet an unfamiliar person in the forest, of course you try to kill him or else to run away. Our modern custom of just saying hello and starting a friendly chat would be suicidal.Seems pretty spot on, especially considering how playing DayZ is essentially a hunter gatherer experience. Edited July 25, 2012 by DogMeat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-NGR- Larkinto 87 Posted July 25, 2012 Cool story bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DogMeat (DayZ) 1 Posted July 25, 2012 Cool story bro. Fixed it bro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Man 393 Posted July 25, 2012 I saw Jared Diamond give a lecture a couple months ago. Fantastic author. He spoke about his field research on natives in Papua New Guinea and on average they speak more languages than many societies. Not dialects...languages! One man spoke up to 15 languages. Incredible. Anyway, Interesting quote! Comparing this game to hunting-gathering peoples is something I didn't really think about. Does it expand on this in Shermer's book? I guess I will have to read it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xximrtwoixx 104 Posted July 25, 2012 I've tried using a game theory argument myself, people just ignore things that make sense. Good quote and great author. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Man 393 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I've tried using a game theory argument myself, people just ignore things that make sense. Good quote and great author.Lets hear it! Edited July 25, 2012 by The_Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DogMeat (DayZ) 1 Posted July 25, 2012 I saw Jared Diamond give a lecture a couple months ago. Fantastic author. He spoke about his field research on natives in Papua New Guinea and on average they speak more languages than many societies. Not dialects...languages! One man spoke up to 15 languages. Incredible. Anyway, Interesting quote! Comparing this game to hunting-gathering peoples is something I didn't really think about. Does it expand on this in Shermer's book? I guess I will have to read it.The context in which he brought this up was expanding on the idea first brought by an old french economist that (typically) "where goods cross frontiers, armies do not". The premise being that trade is by far one of the best ways of maintaining peace among groups. You're less likely to kill someone who provides you something of value. This wouldn't be applicable in DayZ as the players don't really create things or have anything to trade that requires specific skills as everything grows in the vine so to speak. Sophisticated trade is not much of a possibility in DayZ.I've tried using a game theory argument myself, people just ignore things that make sense. Good quote and great author.What gets me is when people use works of fiction like "The Road" as the "in real life" examples. Always get a laugh out of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Man 393 Posted July 25, 2012 What gets me is when people use works of fiction like "The Road" as the "in real life" examples. Always get a laugh out of those.Oh, low! This is a zombie mod my friend. Fiction is welcome here. I don't think I've ever used anything from "The Road" as a "in real life" example. I am guessing you chose that specific novel because it is where my name and profile photo come from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DogMeat (DayZ) 1 Posted July 25, 2012 Oh, low! This is a zombie mod my friend. Fiction is welcome here. I don't think I've ever used anything from "The Road" as a "in real life" example. I am guessing you chose that specific novel because it is where my name and profile photo come from.Not at all, I didn't even notice your avatar because I haven't see the movie yet. Fiction not being welcome? I love fiction and of course it's relevant. To be more specific I'm referring to when people say things such as "This is definitively how people would act in a post apocalyptic world, read "Insert Post Apocalyptic Book or Movie Here". And yes, "The Road" is often filling that space. That said, I find it humorous not because I disagree. But because there is such ample historical/factual material to confirm this that it shouldn't even be necessary to cull from fiction. Many books and movies cover these scenarios in that fashion correctly assuming this to be a very plausible way people would handle such events. Here's an example from this forum that brought this to mind: To be honest the biggest problem in any situation stuch as Zombies taking over the world, care bear or just a nuclear wasteland are the surviving humans. Human nature is one of greed and the need to be the best, sorry to say in the current world there are more "immorale" people than "morale", human nature is and well always be the biggest issue on this planet.... Watch the Road, Book of Eli and even Zombieland ( lol bad example but does have the Human Nature issue in it) It's much worse in places like reddit...Hope this clears things up as the last thing in my mind was attacking you and the chosen example was purely coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
