(Suggestion) Starting Weapon

[Worrun (DayZ) 108]

I am aware that we once started with pistols and am aware of the reason they were removed, I feel that reason was just.

I only ask that we start with a Hunting Knife (after all, what sort of Soldier hoping to survive any kind of situation, nevermind an apocalypse wouldn't carry a knife?)

I suggest this for a few reasons:

(I guess the below reasons relate to both new players and experienced players starting over)

Players could defend themselves against Zombies, which 30% of the time are in direct confrontation upon spawning

Players could perhaps kill a few Zombies in hopes of finding beans and/or Soda

Players would be able to hunt wild animals easier (which should be an easier task than it currently is imo)

That's all I can think of right now, thanks for reading :)

(if you can think of any reasons for players NOT to spawn with a simple Hunting Knife then please leave a comment below :))

[thatcommiekid 57]

hmmm i feel a battle coming... I say yes no... make the game hell

[LeOverlord 150]

I'm just going to save you some trouble man...

Its not going to happen...

Also never come back to this thread...

The flame war is coming...

Nothing nice will be said to you...

run while you can...

[Wazza 274]

I suggest a silenced pea shooter but make the peas hard to find... am tired sorry

[peke_kantsi@hotmail.com 36]

Or we just give them crowbars, because they are useless as f*ck

[species5021 28]

The main reason the weapons were removed was to make the game harder, but ofcourse the underlying thought was also that the dev team got a little tired of people spawning, turning around and shooting the nearest person in the face. So atleast he cares a little about that!

[Worrun (DayZ) 108]

The main reason the weapons were removed was to make the game harder, but ofcourse the underlying thought was also that the dev team got a little tired of people spawning, turning around and shooting the nearest person in the face. So atleast he cares a little about that!

Yeah, I'm aware of the "beach wars" that's why I'm recommending a melee weapon :)

[whatbadguy 21]

It's a common misconception that knifes could actually be fatal to your health if thrust into vital organs... completely effective at 1-4 feet depending on wielder reach and blade proportions.

[LeOverlord 150]

The main reason the weapons were removed was to make the game harder, but ofcourse the underlying thought was also that the dev team got a little tired of people spawning, turning around and shooting the nearest person in the face. So atleast he cares a little about that!

Yeah, I'm aware of the "beach wars" that's why I'm recommending a melee weapon :)

You're just going to get melee beach wars now...

Sounds ridiculous but is most probable outcome of giving new people weapons...

[Worrun (DayZ) 108]

I think it's MUCH more probably to help alot of new players than for any sort of beach war to happen. Even if a beach war does happen it's totally up to the participants and since these aren't bullets (technically they are as melee weapons are just bullets that shoot 3 feet because of the engine lol) but if someone doesn't want to get into a beach confrontation they can just run without being shot in the back :)

Anyhow, yeah. The chances of this helping people is much, much greater than causing any sort of grief to players.

[AllByMyself 6]

learn to scavage that will help, stop asking for handouts and try to play the game for what it is

[GexAlmighty 54]

I think it is fair to say that being defenceless upon spawning is a major attraction to the game because it makes it so that you feel you are really progressing when you come across items.

I do however think that its bollocks that i cant do ANYTHING to avoid dying other than running should i be aggro'd.

My suggestion is, a simple "push" that can be used only once every 4 seconds to trip one single zombie over, dealing 0 damage and they will get back up again, simply to buy you time. its really unrealistic not even being able to use your fists or anything when unarmed and i cant really see a shove that pushes over one single zombie with no damage dealt as overpowered. Rocket has a realism fetish, so theres no reason we cant atleast try to defend ourselves while unarmed.

Edited July 24, 2012 by GexAlmighty

[Worrun (DayZ) 108]

I think it is fair to say that being defenceless upon spawning is a major attraction to the game because it makes it so that you feel you are really progressing when you come across items.

I do however think that its bollocks that i cant do ANYTHING to avoid dying other than running should i be aggro'd.

My suggestion is, a simple "push" that can be used only once every 4 seconds to trip one single zombie over, dealing 0 damage and they will get back up again, simply to buy you time. its really unrealistic not even being able to use your fists or anything when unarmed and i cant really see a shove that pushes over one single zombie with no damage dealt as overpowered. Rocket has a realism fetish, so theres no reason we cant atleast try to defend ourselves while unarmed.

Yeah, even a fucking push would help

[smithy0815 6]

It's a common misconception that knifes could actually be fatal to your health if thrust into vital organs... completely effective at 1-4 feet depending on wielder reach and blade proportions.

seems you have no clue how to fight with knifes. never stab someone if you dont want loose the fight. knifes are to cut.

Edited July 25, 2012 by Smithy

[Ampoliros 43]

I say no. I don't even think we should start with a backpack.

It's not hard to find your starting equipment, but it is exciting.

I would not be opposed to a punch/shove attack though, I think that would be very helpful. And you can never have enough melee weapons. I'd love to have a chainsaw for iconic purposes, even if its one of the worst ideas for a weapon ever. (Loud, needs gas, melee, jams often)

[Grimlok (DayZ) 134]

No starting weapons. At all. Of any kind.

/thread

[Womb Raider 92]

So they are going to make a new weapon, animations, etc, just so you can get a starting weapon?

You do realize how hard it would be to put a hunting knife in Day Z right, on Arma's engine.

If you can't find a weapon within fifteen minutes of starting, you are doing something wrong.

[xTLRxPrototype (DayZ) 15]

No.. just no... It'll cause too much noob combat on the beaches.

[Lap88 1]

I might sound like a noob, but i wish you could do just SOMETHING to defend yourself. I've gotten terribly bad luck and whenever i go to barns or industrial warehouses the only things i find are jerry cans or car parts, and Ive counted. I have been to: 9 Barns, and 12 warehouses. I have seriously never seen a weapon that isnt being used to kill me, and it is very agrivating sinking 8 hours into this mod and not even being able to defend myself. At all. Just a punch, or a push, or SOMETHING to be able to get those little annoying zombies off of me.

[Lap88 1]

So they are going to make a new weapon, animations, etc, just so you can get a starting weapon?

You do realize how hard it would be to put a hunting knife in Day Z right, on Arma's engine.

If you can't find a weapon within fifteen minutes of starting, you are doing something wrong.

There woul'nt be a new animation, they already have a hunting knife in the game. Now, I dont know if you can stab with them because I have never seen one, so forgive me if im wrong.

[Worrun (DayZ) 108]

So they are going to make a new weapon, animations, etc, just so you can get a starting weapon?

You do realize how hard it would be to put a hunting knife in Day Z right, on Arma's engine.

If you can't find a weapon within fifteen minutes of starting, you are doing something wrong.

They're already in the game dumbass.

[Blakorr 77]

seems you have no clue how to fight with knifes. never stab someone if you dont want loose the fight. knifes are to cut.

do you find yourself in a lot of knife fights?

are you a shark or a jet?

[OldmanJohnson 0]

Start with a rusty blunt axe,.It would do half the damage of a normal one,.Job done.

[smithy0815 6]

do you find yourself in a lot of knife fights?

are you a shark or a jet?

nope, but i trained that