Server Restarting 3 Times To Prevent Camp Raid, Re-spawn Items and Vehicles Lost.

[Rnkd 3]

Server: US106 (NJ3)

Hosted By: TotalPunishmentGaming.com

Date: July 18^th, 2012

My friends and I decided to explore the north of the map on US106 (NJ3) last night, we logged on around 7:45pm EST. We decided to spread out, one at 004 EW, one at 008 EW and one at 012 EW and run directly west searching for camps. At 8pm EST the server came down for scheduled maintenance, this took about a minute and the server was back up again. So we continued on our journey. At around 9pm EST, I stumble across a huge camp at 057 NS, 008 EW. I alert my friends to clear the surrounding woods and group up. After not seeing anyone or any vehicles in the woods within 300m, we enter the camp at around 9:05pm EST. Jackpot, there was enough gear in the tents to fully deck out our squad. We start formulating a plan; however at 9:08pm EST the server comes down.

The inevitable question was, “Do you think that was because of us?” However we remained optimistic and waited for the server to come up again. At this point I lose track of time, I had visited their website earlier to see what type of competition we would potentially be up against. With their TeamSpeak3 server information visible to the public, I could see that there were 2 small groups of 4 working together. From this I assumed that they were out in the field collecting items or camping objectives. After this first restart they had all moved to one channel and the number of people had jumped up to 12-16 in that channel. It was obvious that they were preparing for something. Facing the inevitability of people spawning in all around us when the servers came back online ~(7-10) mins later our mission changed focus to getting whatever we wanted and moving out as soon as possible. Any element of surprise was blown. Whether it was a player seeing us or an admin's birds eye, we had a feeling they were on to us.

When the server came back up again it only lasted < 3 mins before it was offline again. I don’t really know the reason for this second restart. Was their plan not coordinated enough? Maybe they needed more time for players to jump to other servers to get closer, who knows. Maybe they were having legitimate technical issues.

We were sure something fishy was going on and told our main group about what was happening to us. At this point our element of surprise was delayed by over 30 minutes.

The server come back up after the second restart and we get back in to the game. Immediately we catch a TPG player inside the camp with an AS 50 on him. We pop him in the head and he goes down and alt f4’s, the body disappears. The tent with the 3 AS50’s has none; we can only assume the other two were in his pack. We engage another player to the north of the camp a couple shots were exchanged but nothing landed. At this point we begin moving out of the camp to the south. All rules for legitimate combat had been thrown out the window after the first two restarts. We run until they lose sight of us, reposition and log.

We were very disheartened by the whole event. Delaying us by so long to get the jump on us, and restarting the server to prevent losing anything really just isn’t what a restart should be used for.

Our reinforcements arrived and we decided to go take look at what was going on in the camp. When we approached the camp, there were 2 TPG members in the camp and a UAZ. We took out the UAZ so they had no escape and dispatched the 2 clan members. Turns out they had been busy bees, moving everything to a new location. The tents were mostly empty. After this event, the servers were restarted again with the specific purpose of restoring the UAZ destroyed in the raid. We know this thanks to some nifty Australian espionage.

This evening(7/19), I once again legitimately found their new camp 012 NS, 057 EW. So they should be busy moving it again. No restarts this time though, just a bullet like it should have been in the first place. I don’t have screenshot of the original camp location or fraps of the on goings. My team mates were unfortunately banned from the server for hopping. Apparently logging back into the same place you were when the server went down is hopping servers.

I just want to get the word out there that if you find a camp on US106 (NJ3), admins will do anything in their power to prevent you from playing the game in a legitimate fashion. I do wish to apologize to anyone who experience all those restarts last night.

Edited July 20, 2012 by Rnkd

[Caviano 287]

Fucking fucks. Fucking fuckshit fuck dick holes. fuck all those dickfucks.

[dpactual 36]

I was banned on that server for hopping, but all I was doing was leaving on restarts. Ohh well, what they did it low and completely wrong for the spirit of the game. They refused to accept losses and restarted the server over and over to keep their vehicles/gear.

To bad we know where their new camp is.

[dagg929 20]

There were several restarts last night, yes. The first was because a hacker teleported everyone to a single location to nuke them. The second was because, I assume you gentlemen, thougit would be prudent to not respond when I announced if an attack was ongoing or if it was another hacker, since probably twenty minutes prior we had an invincible godmoder rolling through camp. We assumed that your group was with the hackers, considering you were in teamspeak and not responding as people were dropping (turns out you guys just took turns logging to reposition, which the logs show.) I'm able and willing to comply as per the dayz standard in providing logs to any investigating devs, and will be following up on the odd texture coding that your group was showing in the servers console log, of course of which was between your logouts.

By the way, the logs show the restarts too and your story doesn't match up.

Ill be sending in a ticket to dayz support, as stated here on the forums to follow up with your group and not only the odd coding in console, but the six logouts in a fifteen minute period while my members were dying at our camp.

Our camp which we really don't care that much about, but thanks for requesting my server to be hacked on reddit, this thread could use some more laughs.

Eat shit.

[Rnkd 3]

I have nothing to hide. We were not in your TS until long after the second restart, just purely to figure out what was going on, and yes we were unnanounce because we felt as if we had be treated unjustly. We stumbled upon your camp legitemately after over an hour of searching the north as stated. If there was indeed a teleporting hacker wouldn't have we suffered the same fate as the rest of the server? Whenever we got kicked off the server it conincided with the server timing out and restarting. When the servers came back up and we logged back in we were inside the camp where we were when the servers came down, within ~15m. I'm sorry if someone had hacked your camp location earlier but it doesn't give you the right to assume our guilt.

And apparently you do care about your camp a lot as you mobilized the troops to move it so diligently. You restarted your server to save a fucking UAZ. Take one second to step back and look at it from our perspective. The event conincided too closely to be a coincidence. The fact that several of your group members had either move to or logged into locations around us after the second restart makes our movements just as justified as yours. Your buddy who alt f4'd with the AS 50's who conviniently logged in by that tent with them when the server came up, do your logs show that?

Furthermore, When all our members decided to retreat and log, no combat was happening, none of your members were engaging us, we had already engaged and eliminated all members at the camp.

You can present the information to make us look like the bad guys while selectively chosing to hide how your organization reacted to us, I have no control over that.

I found your new camp today out of pure luck. I knew it would be somewhere on the west side of the map, I watched a guy go hunting for serveral minutes before attempting to enter. As far as requesting it to be hacked, I apologize that was not my intension. Stormed more like it. But I'm sure you've already moved it again.

Nice parking job on the busses.

[dpactual 36]

Here, if you were hacked (which I did teleport for a second or two and saw everyone on server), then sorry about that. But I was banned for server hopping when it took MULTIPLE attempts to get back on your server. I wanted to loot that shit. Its a camp, and its part of the game. So I get in a fight with one of yours after we kill some alt f4ing asshole you call a clan mate, then I legit give the guy a 3 minute chase for me, get away and then I escape and abort (NOT ALT F4), and you guys have the balls to call me cheap? That is an issue. So I feel no pitty for trolling a bit. I wasn't even a jerk in my TPG post.

Shit happens.

ITS A GAME!

[MajPayne21 10]

Shit happens.

ITS A GAME!

If you truly believe that, then you'll understand that we were not restarting the server to deter you in any way. That's not the way we play, period.

I was one of the clan members that got headshot in that camp by the third guy you called in.

See it from our point of view: In the space of 2 hours, WHILE we were in the process of moving our camp, the following happened:

Everyone on the server got teleported to Dagger at the location of our new camp, which was a clear hack/nuke attempt. Dag quickly restarted the server to prevent everyone from getting nuked.

Then, after that, we continued the camp move after determining that we restarted the server fast enough to keep everyone from respawning on top of us. That's why one of your guys saw a glimpse of everyone piled on top of each other and then after the restart spawned in at his previous location.

THEN, within 30 minutes of the hack attempt, two players (you guys), found our camp, which until then had been untouched for almost TWO WEEKS. You guys killed Flesh Gordon, the first player you encountered. He did NOT Alt+F4, he died, respawned, and stayed in the server. When our other players engaged you, you retreated and then disappeared. That's understandable due to the server's instability, whatever. We all assumed you were going to ghost to behind the camp on another server and/or were part of the hack attempt, but we continued trying to frantically get everything out of camp.

THEN, after you guys were unseen for a few minutes, another member and I were loading up the UAZ when someone spawned in and sniped me in the head in the camp. I presume he had JUST spawned in because he shot me literally as we were planning on teamspeak to leave, but I had been fully visible in that part of camp for over 10 minutes moving gear. Then he destroyed the UAZ and killed the other member.

I didn't see either of you guys again. I, nor any one of our other members, logged out during combat through that whole saga. We were not attempting to "game" the game, nor were we worried about anything but defending our camp against unknown (and disconnected/presumed ghosting) assailants and then leaving.

We thought that there was no way our previously undiscovered camp was found less than an hour after a blantant hack attempt just by coincidence. The final server restart after I was headshot in camp was to update the banlist after the original hacker was determined.

As an aside, it's awfully nice of you guys to include a little bit of retribution in your story by going ahead and posting coordinates of the camp for the public to view. In addition, another location of ours was broadcast on Reddit by some individuals who want "retribution" of their own for whatever reason.

I'm not accusing you guys of hacking or of anything other than getting extremely lucky right AFTER we got hacked, but we did NOT bring the server down in any attempt to hinder you. So, go ahead and troll one of the server admins who is actually putting in a lot of effort to keep the server free of hackers. We're sorry your camp-hunting fun got ruined by being in very close proximity to a hack attempt (reasonably suspicious from our point of view because of how fast it happened at the time without knowing you were a separate group).

After retreating from camp and logging out, do you guys absolutely deny that you were attempting to hop to another server, change your location, and come back in on a different side of camp?

Edited July 20, 2012 by MajPayne21

[dpactual 36]

Look, I don't really care anymore. It was a fun battle. There was someone in your TS the entire time. He changed his name to one of your own and put a 1 on the end. You never noticed. Thats how we knew what you were doing.

You were shot in the head by an as50 by a guy who yes, logged INTO your camp, exactly where he was before the restart, and so did I. We were both IN your camp both restarts. I jumped out, he killed your friend and ran, I saw the other guy, shot at him and also ran. Quite a ways at that. He had stopped shooting well before I escaped and aborted.

"After retreating from camp and logging out, do you guys absolutely deny that you were attempting to hop to another server, change your location, and come back in on a different side of camp?"

I was banned at that point. So was my friend. Our team of 5 was on your sever running to your camps north side. One logged on in the meeting place 500 meters away because he had been afk for our team to run to you.

What happened after I don't know, I was listening to TS. Your guys were convinced we were hackers, I laughed, and last I heard you restarted for the UAZ.

Also note, you won't hear a sniper shot if it kills you in one hit. I don't know who thought we were hacking, but I'm pretty sure it was the first guy down.

"Everyone on the server got teleported to Dagger at the location of our new camp, which was a clear hack/nuke attempt. Dag quickly restarted the server to prevent everyone from getting nuked."

I was on for this, the server crashed right after I had been ported, but I was ported back.

Look, I did some playful trolling. We found your camp, it was fun. But it was suspicious from our side too because we find the camp and immediately get kicked and everything reset. Nothing on my TPG forums post was close to malicious, but some of your members seemed to take it that way (most people would), or just are malicious themselves.

How we found and raided your camp comes down to your own security. We found the server, looked for how established the clan was, checked forums and bingo, its in the north west corner. The hackers were a total coincidence, I do not hack nor will I ever. None of my friends were hacking either.

I wish you luck on your server, If it was misunderstandings, then lets move on. I'm not appealing for a ban lift either. One I don't think you will, and two, I have no care to play on regs, I just wanted the camp.

Edited July 20, 2012 by dpactual

[ctrl-alt-DESTROY! 21]

there was 100% a teleportation hack going on. one minute we were in our new camp unloading our shit and then a ton of people all spawn in on top of us, many of them in the same location, breaking their legs. only the fast server shutdown saved everyone from really being there, longer than the 4 or 5 seconds before the shutdown.

and since i don't know how their teleport hacks work, i can't say who should have been teleported or not. i had assumed it was everyone, but i didn't stick around to find out.

i'm sorry the hack coincided with your looting our camp. if i had my way, they'd have happened an hour apart, so that this confusion didn't happen.

i get that people are going to want to steal my shit, just as i hope they don't take it personally if i steal theirs. i loathe alt-f4ers, and people who hack, server hop, ghost or abuse other exploits especially to gain or regain an advantage. as some in your group know, i didn't alt-f4 or log when major and i were getting sniped. i ate my bullet like everyone who has one marked for them should.

both sides have legit reasons for being suspicious of each others stories, but we don't reboot to stop raids - except from obvious hackers - or regain lost gear. if you find our shit, grats. like you say, it's a game. shit happens.

i do want to give you guys props for the m.s.k.y.o1 ts3 infiltration. that was well played :)

[v1ktor 59]

Lol, the kind of multi-paragraph bullshit kids like this come up with when trying to defend their case when clearly they cannot handle having their little camp found out.

Why are servers like this still not blacklisted?

Edited July 20, 2012 by v1ktor

[dpactual 36]

"i do want to give you guys props for the m.s.k.y.o1 ts3 infiltration. that was well played"

This makes me laugh, I was listening through his mic too. Was fun. One of our guys couldn't log in and was bored, so he found your info.

Look, I have no hard feelings, and if this is all misunderstandings, thats fine. If not, shame on you; but I have no reason to believe, or proof to prove otherwise.

If I WOULD of had time, all your tents would have been blown sky high, so what did happen did work more into your advantage then I wanted. I don't like leaving evidence.

If you find my camp, props! We have 8 AS50s from restarts lol.