Banning for pvp-disconnect disallowed?

[vendaar 18]

http://dayzmod.com/f...120#entry337225

http://dayzmod.com/f...es/#entry323949

I dont think I want to keep up my server for a game, which devs forbidd serveradmins to kick/ban people which has been caught exploiting and destroying the game-experience of other players!

furthermore I dont believe this is meant to be serious and hope that Ander just phrased something wrong.

It is impossible to keep all of them away just by a ticket-system.. this wont work and you wont be able to handle the mass of tickets.

You cant allow faggots to ruin this beautiful game...!

Sorry for my bad english, ask if you misunderstood.

greetings.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Vendaar

[gunnarkeith@ymail.com 27]

Simply because server admins would be kicking ALL THE TIME.

I mean, if I walk up to a kid at him and his friends camp, and I say "woah man, friendly. Im friendly", and the kid trusts me, and I wait until they turn their backs and blast them both and take all their gear, that's OBVIOUSLY going to destroy his game experience.

[Adron 42]

It's perfectly allowed. They won't blacklist you at all. They just can't say it

[Psyl3nt 125]

I'd suggest is you don't want to follow the rules as they currently stand, drop the server. Wait until something is worked out and then if you like start hosting again.

Just because something is a problem as big as the DC crowd, doesn't mean we can all just ignore the rules. It's all well and good to play the decisive admin but at the end of the day it will just end up with your server blacklisted.

The mod is in alpha, the DC crowd are kind of useful, as they are showing us all how parts of the game can be exploited, that is exactly the sort of thing the devs need to see so it can be addressed. If the server admin bans most of those users then this game could go full release and still have areas that can be exploited because the crowd that does that kind of thing is no longer able to play and show those bugs.

They are testing, you are testing, we are all just testing. Get the idea of "playing" out of your mind, testing is the word you need to remember.

[vendaar 18]

Simply because server admins would be kicking ALL THE TIME.

There are also mature admins out there, you know.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Vendaar

[Orcworm 18]

I've yet to see anyone acknowledging their server being blacklisted so I'd say protect your players from any obvious problems that the current state of the mod has.

[Psyl3nt 125]

Your poisoning the well so to speak by removing those that will exploit, it means your helping them so that upon full release they will be able to exploit. Let them exploit now while it's in testing so the devs can see how they are doing it and fix it.

[Anthrax12 46]

If you are found disconnecting to avoid death in PVP yes you will get banned on the server i play on, We don't allow people to exploit to win.

You will still have douche bag admins who go on a power trip and just ban cause you killed them.

[Psyl3nt 125]

talk about missing the point.......

These admin who are saying they ban or are going to ban based on this, do us all a favour and stop hosting a server now. You are obviously not here for a alpha test, you are here "playing" a "game", and that is not what this mod needs. what this mod needs is to be tested.

Those same admin will be the loudest when the game is released full, and there are all these exploits in it that people are taking advantage of.

And why will they be there ? - because you took things into your own hands and didn't give the devs the chance to investigate and fix those things, so they won't be fixed.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Psyl3nt

[mtuckner 46]

The devs are aware of the problems so we don't need to "test" these disconnecting exploits anymore. Ban them.

[Psyl3nt 125]

And those same people who are exploiting via the DC, will also exploit in other ways once that avenue is cut off. They are the ones who the devs need to watch and see what they are doing, also players can report on the forums as to what they are doing.

You are treating this as a full release game, you are certainly not treating it as an alpha, something that seems to be forgotten a fair bit.

If everyone who is left on the servers are those who would not exploit then again, once the game comes out the tears will flow because of all the exploits the devs didn't fix. Because you guys didn't allow the exploiters to show themselves and their tactics.

You seem more concerned with your current "game experience" than you are with helping to identify flaws and good points, again, your treating this as a full release game.

Edited July 18, 2012 by Psyl3nt

[Adron 42]

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/exclusive-dean-rocket-hall-interview/

rocket specifically says they know it, see it, and understand it.

nothing to test.

[vendaar 18]

Stop trolling dude

Edited July 18, 2012 by Vendaar

[Psyl3nt 125]

Ok so lets say the devs know about this which they do, and they are workin on a fix again which they are, in the mean time you all ban all the DC'ers from your servers. Now, who tests the fix ? - who if there is no-one left who does this is going to know that it works or not ?

Now, those same players would also find other ways to exploit, and if they are all banned, who is going to find out what those are ? we won't know till the game is live and there is a plauge of exploiters and everyone will be whinging because of it.

I am in no way upset when killed by a teleporter / or someone DC's on me, I think it's a good thing, I have a chuckle because they are providing the information needed to defeat them before the game is released. They are actually helping to stop themselves (which is funny). So don't get upset about it, have a giggle and move on. (I mean it's not like you should be "attached" to your stuff is it ? )

Edited July 18, 2012 by Psyl3nt

[Adron 42]

Ok so lets say the devs know about this which they do, and they are workin on a fix again which they are, in the mean time you all ban all the DC'ers from your servers. Now, who tests the fix ? - who if there is no-one left who does this is going to know that it works or not ?

Now, those same players would also find other ways to exploit, and if they are all banned, who is going to find out what those are ? we won't know till the game is live and there is a plauge of exploiters and everyone will be whinging because of it.

I am in no way upset when killed by a teleporter / or someone DC's on me, I think it's a good thing, I have a chuckle because they are providing the information needed to defeat them before the game is released. They are actually helping to stop themselves (which is funny). So don't get upset about it, have a giggle and move on. (I mean it's not like you should be "attached" to your stuff is it ? )

they have a test server for that

[vendaar 18]

Dont feed the troll

[andb52 12]

Vendaar, just do what you think is right, and don't worry about it. We, as admins, are all in the same boat, and I presume that most of us just aren't too worried about repercussions.

[Disgraced 1123]

Fucking exploiter pussies.

If the hive mind decides that admins can't ban for this, then I'm done.

More wee to the server admins!

One character per server! Down with the hive!

[Psyl3nt 125]

The devs have stated that you cannot ban for this : It's been said a long time ago now, the reason is that it's too open to abuse. And of course any and all admin say of course they wont abuse it , but for some reason it happens.

By hosting a server you have agreed to the terms laid out in the agreement, to go against that, means you have lied when you agreed, and that says you shouldn't be running a server.

And Vendaar just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a troll, you seem to not understand the meaning of the word. So before you point the finger I suggest you have a look and learn what things mean before you go calling people those names.

[Adron 42]

And Vendaar just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a troll, you seem to not understand the meaning of the word. So before you point the finger I suggest you have a look and learn what things mean before you go calling people those names.

no its ok Psy, I don't mind om nom noming his words :)

[giiwedin@live.com 32]

Fucking exploiter pussies.

If the hive mind decides that admins can't ban for this, then I'm done.

More wee to the server admins!

One character per server! Down with the hive!

i hear that!

[ken@thekab.com 37]

If they don't have the time to properly deal with people exploiting the game what makes you believe they have the time to deal with the people banning them?

[vendaar 18]

And Vendaar just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a troll, you seem to not understand the meaning of the word. So before you point the finger I suggest you have a look and learn what things mean before you go calling people those names.

I did not stated your whole opinion as trolling.

You just repeated the same things, altough people told u, HOW it actually really is

Edited July 19, 2012 by Vendaar