Definition of the word ENDGAME

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

Just posting this to clarify what endgame actually means, as people instantly jump on other peoples posts saying the goal is to survive there is no end !! How long have you been playing games lol?? Have you ever got to the end of one ? ENDGAME content is NOT an ending to the game. It is simply more content for those who have reached or are nearing the pinnacle of the game.

As rocket has clearly said there WILL be endgame content coming into dayz very soon. Trolls it is wayyyy past your bedtime.

[Levias 28]

This thread again.. banish the word engame please. Not a MMO you're playing here.

[Blindingsun 233]

we're not playing Warcraft. there'll be no "end game" content because you're not playing a game. you're playing a military simulator with a survival mod.

[Drblodski 53]

In the Arma world it is very easy for the devs to add little new things here and there and nuance what is already there. They can do it without too much testing - like for example moving some of the vehicles spawns to new locations. The could lower the spawn rates on the crashed helis and barracks say and introduce a 6 man AI spec op team that arrives by patrol boat once every 2 hours or so and makes its way to a military location across the land (random destination each time). This would be a danger to survivors if the AI were set to shoot anything. They might succumb to zed themselves. It would provide some more lootable weaponry. It would give the endgamers something new to do.

This is a lame example above but I reckon the devs are well aware that in one of the next updates they should add a new dynamic to give old timers something new to do (worry about) ;) This idea doesnt even include new content like mini missions or quests. That would be fun. As long as nothing is forced on you i say its all good.

[-NGR- Larkinto 87]

very soon.

I wouldn't bet on it. Rocket hasn't been able to fix minor exploits like combat dcing and item duplication over a span of months. The addition of any creative content is a LONG way away.

Inb4; bear traps lol

Edited July 15, 2012 by -NGR- Larkinto

[vjese 20]

Yes, please add a magical fire dragon once u rroamed the island for a couple of weeks.

Also learn to google before you jump to conclusions and try to be a smart ass. nobody likes a smartass.

End game is the ending scenario of a particular game; when and how it will end, most prominently used in chess. Derived from that Endgame, Endgames, or End Game may refer to:

• Chess endgame refers to the stage of the game when there are few pieces left on the board
  

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame

1. Games The final stage of a chess game after most of the pieces have been removed from the board.

2. The final stage of an extended process or course of events: the diplomatic endgame that led to the treaty.

Sourcehttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/endgame

To make it to the last level of a game. To be considered at the peak of your game. To be the best/elite/powerful. Best and/or powerful items come from the EndGame.

Sourcehttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=EndGame

Pretty sure it's the last bit aka the end of a game, not something to keep you busy once you reach it.

Don't take WoW lingo in here, with it's own meaning to words.

Edited July 15, 2012 by vjese

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

we're not playing Warcraft. there'll be no "end game" content because you're not playing a game. you're playing a military simulator with a survival mod.

This thread again.. banish the word engame please. Not a MMO you're playing here.

Honestly i can not believe how thick the two of you actually are. Watch rockets recent interveiws and go bury your head in the sand.

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

Fuck you, you sarcastic little fuck turd. You post the true definition of what i just said and then change it to one you prefer. Idiot

[i have been warned for this post - Ubi]

Edited July 16, 2012 by UbiquitousBadGuy

[Blindingsun 233]

Honestly i can not believe how thick the two of you actually are. Watch rockets recent interveiws and go bury your head in the sand.

I've watched his interview. and he never confirmed that any "end game content" would happen. he's made it very clear he wants to keep the emphasis on survival rather than fun.

[cragzeek 29]

As the OP said, what he is referring to as "Endgame" is content for skilled veteran players who need a new challenge, not a dragon, not a crazy quest, or any other straw man you can invent. Just because this game is a sandbox and focuses on immersion does not mean there aren't several tiers of gameplay and different player bases that will need to be satisfied come a polished release. This doesn't mean anything drastic. As Rocket is always explicitly clear in saying he wishes to provide us as players with the tools to create and facilitate our own experience. Some of these tools will be geared towards upper tier players.

[Blindingsun 233]

Fuck you, you sarcastic little fuck turd. You post the true definition of what i just said and then change it to one you prefer. Idiot

this is why we don't want crying WoW kids who want "end game content".

to quote my mother "when a man gets angry, he know's he's wrong"

[Maderas 12]

I've watched his interview. and he never confirmed that any "end game content" would happen. he's made it very clear he wants to keep the emphasis on survival rather than fun.

He's said he's looking to add difficult, long-term goals for players to strive toward, like building underground complexes. That's pretty much the definition of "end game" as it pertains to video games.

[vjese 20]

Fuck you, you sarcastic little fuck turd. You post the true definition of what i just said and then change it to one you prefer. Idiot

Don't feel mad, just leave the forums, and take your smartassery and foul language to the barrens chat.

[Blindingsun 233]

He's said he's looking to add difficult, long-term goals for players to strive toward, like building underground complexes. That's pretty much the definition of "end game" as it pertains to video games.

just cos it's a long term goal doesn't mean that it's going to be end game at all. there might be bigger things planned beyond underground complexes.....as we're still in alpha, talking about End game is nothing more than speculation at this point and ultimately useless arguing about.;

[Maderas 12]

just cos it's a long term goal doesn't mean that it's going to be end game at all. there might be bigger things planned beyond underground complexes.....as we're still in alpha, talking about End game is nothing more than speculation at this point and ultimately useless arguing about.;

Rocket has said he wants the construction of these self-sufficient underground complexes to be the ultimate goal for players who have survived for a long time. He might add more, eventually, but for now they're the planned end game content.

And as the OP said, 'end game' in video game lexicon doesn't mean you're done playing once you've completed it. It's simply something harder to attain for the player base to work toward.

[vjese 20]

As the OP said, what he is referring to as "Endgame" is content for skilled veteran players who need a new challenge, not a dragon, not a crazy quest, or any other straw man you can invent. Just because this game is a sandbox and focuses on immersion does not mean there aren't several tiers of gameplay and different player bases that will need to be satisfied come a polished release. This doesn't mean anything drastic. As Rocket is always explicitly clear in saying he wishes to provide us as players with the tools to create and facilitate our own experience. Some of these tools will be geared towards upper tier players.

No just no. just cause you "Progress" as in get better weapons and more food. this is hardly tiering up. you are surviving, there's no end to survival unless you are rescued. therefor there's no endgame unless there's a braodcast of a helicopter or a cavalery who's coming to save you, in wich that would be the end, and therefor your endgame. this is a simulator where the "Survival part is key" wich means there's no end. or endgame. it could take 7 years before the infection is cleared. it could take 2 weeks. regardless of how long it takes, the idea of the game, is to survive, and not find a cure at the end of rainbow, or fight a giant mutated zombie in the middle of a hive.

If u get bored, then this might not be your type of game.

On a serious note no trolling, try fallen earth. it's a MMO with post apocalyptic setttings, pvp, scavanging etc. but that does have endgame, as it's build as an mmo. with dungeons, bosses, and what not.

[cragzeek 29]

No just no. just cause you "Progress" as in get better weapons and more food. this is hardly tiering up. you are surviving, there's no end to survival unless you are rescued. therefor there's no endgame unless there's a braodcast of a helicopter or a cavalery who's coming to save you, in wich that would be the end, and therefor your endgame. this is a simulator where the "Survival part is key" wich means there's no end. or endgame. it could take 7 years before the infection is cleared. it could take 2 weeks. regardless of how long it takes, the idea of the game, is to survive, and not find a cure at the end of rainbow, or fight a giant mutated zombie in the middle of a hive.

If u get bored, then this might not be your type of game.

On a serious note no trolling, try fallen earth. it's a MMO with post apocalyptic setttings, pvp, scavanging etc. but that does have endgame, as it's build as an mmo. with dungeons, bosses, and what not.

Oh I'm not bored at this stage of play. And I wasn't suggesting bosses, quests, or dungeons. i was merely saying that both Rocket and the OP are hinting at a DayZ version of Endgame content which would mean some kind of tools for experienced players to create a new, complex, and challenging experience. The idea of a boss zombie would ruin immersion for me and I don't support it. Careful about putting words in peoples mouths.

[Jack Dant 158]

This thread again.. banish the word engame please. Not a MMO you're playing here.

I don't really like the word endgame either, but please explain the difference between DayZ and an instanced MMO.

What DayZ needs is not endgame in the WoW sense. People playing the game as if it was WoW with the sole purpose of getting "rare weaponz" won't ever be satisfied with the sandbox.

The closest thing to good "endgame" we have now is vehicles. You find them, you repair them (usually in a group), they get stolen the next day, then you steal them back, and so on and on. Something like that, but played over weeks instead of hours is what we need. Something you can do over and over but it's never the same (this requires a PVP factor to it, because AI is always the same).

[Sticker704 121]

Can we just lay of the word "endgame" please? The only End game there is, is DLC that is going to come out for Battlefield 3 in March. Ok, I've used that joke before.

noun /ˈen(d)ˌgām/ 

endgames, plural

• The final stage of a game such as chess or bridge, when few pieces or cards remain
  
  • - the knight was trapped in the endgame
    
  • - the retaliatory endgame of nuclear warfare
    

• 
  end·game
  

The word is content. Not endgame features or endgame endgame....content.

[Levias 28]

There can't be particular endgame because you don't reach any progress here. There aren't levels you could raise, no dungeons to defeat and no (not really) high end equip to feel like a superman. If there has to be endgame the game itself needs to follow a straight path in progress, goals and challenges. Though it'll never be there you can't await endgame and the most important so say I can't imagine super zombies to defeat. Seriously. If fortifying is engame for you then it'll be but imo endgame already begins at spawn. The game is that variable as a sandbox game.

[Boof (DayZ) 75]

Yes, please add a magical fire dragon once u rroamed the island for a couple of weeks.

Also learn to google before you jump to conclusions and try to be a smart ass. nobody likes a smartass.

End game is the ending scenario of a particular game; when and how it will end, most prominently used in chess. Derived from that Endgame, Endgames, or End Game may refer to:

• Chess endgame refers to the stage of the game when there are few pieces left on the board
  

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame

1. Games The final stage of a chess game after most of the pieces have been removed from the board.

2. The final stage of an extended process or course of events: the diplomatic endgame that led to the treaty.

Sourcehttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/endgame

To make it to the last level of a game. To be considered at the peak of your game. To be the best/elite/powerful. Best and/or powerful items come from the EndGame.

Sourcehttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=EndGame

Pretty sure it's the last bit aka the end of a game, not something to keep you busy once you reach it.

Don't take WoW lingo in here, with it's own meaning to words.

not sure if seriously this stupid...

[Jack Dant 158]

endgame already begins at spawn.

Sandbox games in a nutshell :)

[Delta Smoke 01 765]

Why when anyone says practically anything does somebody have to brand it COD or WOW. I have never liked WOW. I will never like WOW. Ohhhhhhh i get it now ! You idiotic troll types are all FROM WOW !!!

I appologize for my use of foul language. But it infuriates me when someone flames me for no damn reason. If it was in real life id laugh and come kick down your door :) Wish there was a button for that on here...

Edited July 15, 2012 by Delta Smoke 01

[grizzle 21]

The problem with your definition is that DayZ does not have a pinnacle. It's sandbox/survival and it's exactly what YOU make of it.

Years and years of goals and achievements in games have ruined gamer's brains.

[LackofCertainty 2]

Okay, for everyone who hates the words "endgame content" use your imagination and everytime someone types out "endgame content" replace those words with, "Content for people who already have access to vehicles, high end military loot, and who routinely raid crashed heli's and military barracks." Personally, I don't have a stick so far up my ass that I can't admit that "endgame content" is a handier summation than the 22 word alternative I suggested, but if you're that anal about it be my guest.

Anyway, the very fact that "endgame content" exists in DayZ means that more can always be added. I like the idea of more dynamic spawns like the heli's, and fewer static spawns so that you have people exploring the map more instead of farming known hotspots. I also like the idea of basebuilding that rocket suggests, although It'd fall kinda flat for me unless player built strongholds get zombie spawns the same way as towns currently do.