james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Ok here's my beef with getting knocked out cold by zombies... its basically retarded... ok sure there's gonna be haters about to abuse me but hear my case out.. if you got attacked by zombies in reality and were facing them you would use you own arms instinctively to block your head also the adrenalin pumping through your body when in a fight or a zombie encounter would stop you from becoming unconscious.My suggestion is simple zombies no longer knock you out cold instead unconsciousness is only when disconnecting and reconnecting when having the shock symbol, running very low on blood where you keep passing out briefly and/or possibly falling from great heights - (Also height falling dmg needs to be reduced you wouldn't instantly just die from a 3 meter fall)Tl;drRemove zombies knocking you out cold and reduce fall height damage. Edited July 15, 2012 by Pwnography Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh225 129 Posted July 15, 2012 I somewhat agree with what you're saying but here's my opinion.I think that zombies knocking you out is part of their risk, if they didn't then they really just arn't as lethal without that factor of - if i'm at low blood i might get knocked cold and eaten.However i do think maybe reduce the level of blood you have to be at before you have a chance for it and the lower the blood the higher the chance etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paradox. 12 Posted July 15, 2012 yea it should be 3000 and down when you can get knocked unconciuos instead of 9000(pretty sure its 9000). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bludy 324 Posted July 15, 2012 they are supposed to knock you out just if you are below 8k blood which means that you are almost at half energy..falling damage isn't a priority to fix i think..i fell just panicking with aggroing infected in a barn and never again..i understood panic+zeds=death;stay cool+zeds=maybe you won't die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 15, 2012 I still think you should need quite low blood pressure to be knocked out cold even then maybe low blood + hit from behind = unconscious, idk its just been annoying me lately if i dont have a friend with me id most certainly die everytime. Also the zeds aggroing range has been dramatically increased crouching does nothing anymore there is no point i just run standing up everywhere now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ActionManZlt 160 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) The average adult human body has 5L of blood in it, so 9000/12000 life means you've lost 1.25L of blood (9K dayZ blood is where bad symptoms kick in, like the chance to be knocked unconscious).When you donate blood in RL, they only take about 450mL, which still causes some people to black out, become weak, throw up, etc... and takes your body 3 months to fully recover from.Losing 1.25L is life-threatening, and would put you in a "critical condition".So... If you've gotten yourself into a life-threatening state, THEN DO NOT RISK YOUR LIFE BY STANDING STILL NEAR ZOMBIES. If you're in a critical condition and you go getting knocked out by a zombie, then it's your own stupid fault for putting yourself in a situation where that could happen. You've got the choice to avoid this happening to your characters... Make sure you've recovered first (which can be done in a few minutes in DayZ, instead of weeks in RL) before risking your life in combat again. Or, you know, RUN...As you said though, if you've got a friend with you, who's armed and has medical supplies, then you're a lot safer in life threatening situations like this, which is a good thing™ as it adds depth and variation.If you understand the rules and consequences, then this isn't a problem. You've got to adjust your play-style after you get yourself seriously injured (yes, 9K blood remaining is serious -- there's a reason the life number is called 'Blood' instead of 'Hit Points' in this game), which again, is a good thing™ as it adds depth and variation.TL;DR - QQ L2P. Edited July 15, 2012 by ActionMan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 15, 2012 love the TL;DR - QQ L2P.And thanks for that bit of information i guess it adds that bit more of extreme realism to the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starwarsfan@gmx.de 450 Posted July 15, 2012 lol @ ActionManTalking about realism while referring to the game mechanic that you lose blood when you're hit by a zombie... really? I don't know man, sounds kinda silly to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_uk15@hotmail.com 70 Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) I think it's fine the way it is.It reinforces the idea that players cannot run around willy nilly with 5k blood. It certainly wouldn't be healthy in real life if you were as anaemic. Zombie Survival Simulator ... Stop trying to balance this thing out as a game.Don't know about you guys - but immersion, fear and realism are more important to me than the ability to soak up zed hits. L4D is available on steam for £7.49. Dead Island can also be bought at a similar price. Edited July 15, 2012 by ScramUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Claytonaj 12 Posted July 15, 2012 You lost me at "if you got attacked by zombies in reality". ;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_uk15@hotmail.com 70 Posted July 15, 2012 You lost me at "if you got attacked by zombies in reality". ;)haha+1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 15, 2012 Ahah thanks anyway for the feedback guys :P was just a little thing on my mind... Although... still waiting for that 1 guy that can barley speak english to show up with random abuse.. you guys know the kind of person im talking about he will come in "What this gay cuz u have to be gud when pley gaem n u cant be run zombys cuz dead and blud be low - sry bad english" But thanks anyways im abit both ways really i suppose it is good the way it is :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 15, 2012 One other thing when reading over this;Talking about realism while referring to the game mechanic that you lose blood when you're hit by a zombie... really? I don't know man, sounds kinda silly to me.This is true a zombie wacking you is not going to make you gush blood out everywhere and bleed to death if anything a good cut would conjeal blood and the tiny amount you would lose really wouldnt affect you in terms of hitting like 9k blood and having vision and hearing loss seriously now comonn Awell it is still alpha who knows what crazy and wacky updates rocket is going to bring out.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starwarsfan@gmx.de 450 Posted July 15, 2012 You lost me at "if you got attacked by zombies in reality". ;)Don't tell me you're a non beliver man, they be comin' them god damned Zombies! You'll see. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 15, 2012 Don't tell me you're a non beliver man, they be comin' them god damned Zombies! You'll see. :DI am scared ;'( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdz (DayZ) 238 Posted July 15, 2012 I see all of these posts saying "Zombies are to powerful!!1!!!eleven!!1!!!"It's not fucking hard to not get hit by a zombie, I maybe get hit once or twice per every 8 hours of play.Just fucking shoot them before they hit you, it's really not that hard at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheProphecy 33 Posted July 15, 2012 @ActionMan - Not sure how you can draw up a comparison to the health system in this game and real life when you can simply eat a bunch of canned food to get your health back up. If I go and donate blood, I'm pretty damn sure eating 10 cans of beans won't help me out.@Clayton - Yea, I was interested until I saw "in reality." People take this shit WAY too seriously and need to realize that it's not real and any "in reality" arguments are useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 16, 2012 The in reality part was more to do with the fact if getting wacked say in a fight that you won't get knocked out and considering this mod / is trying to be more of a battlefield simulator rather than a game I do think these things can be changed as for saying you hate people making post about zombies being OP? I never said they were OP I just hate one aspect of them when combined with slight blood loss in your character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LT.Sacred 9 Posted July 16, 2012 LOL so many people do take the realism part to far... not talking about you pwn, you don't seem bad about it, but man... some people do >.> No fires in the cities... (unrealistic, so shot down) so yeah -.- idk people take the realistic aspect to far. >.> Honestly, I got this game because it had real factors but come on -.- Do we need it to the fine tooth comb? Might aswell have a 90% chance of spawning as zed when you join -.- pfft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james_foschi@hotmail.com 19 Posted July 16, 2012 Yeah man for sure.. I actually agree with everything you just said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites