Safe zone for new players across all servers

[dunkhan 8]

This is similar to the take a town idea but much more practical. To get it across all servers would be hard and only realistic in the long term but to set this up on a single server I think 5 people would be enough. South of Kamarovo at the docks is a big industrial building http://picacid.com/arma2/imgs/Land_Tovarna2.jpg which is easy to defend. It has two exits, one of which can be wired off. It has multiple rooms all of which have high windows that snipers cant see you through. It also has roof access. It is near many of the spawn areas. My suggestion for this as an outpost would be as follows: two main guards who stand watching the main doorways (yes more than two would be better), two people to go foraging and recruiting, and the 5th guy with a CZ some distance off, able to spot, report and neutralize bandits approaching the main building. A spotter on the roof would be useful too but also a dangerous job. I think if we use this location as the standard base, or choose another location but make it the official survivor location, we could make something fairly persistent. Yes bandits will attack sometimes, that would be exciting and realistic. But we should be able to fight them off most of the time. The biggest advantage of such a setup is that even if some of the defenders get killed in an attack, if the defence holds, the dead can come back after respawning and collect their stuff again.

[alchemy1002 5]

I like this. the alamo all the way

[c.chris.perry@gmail.com 17]

Sounds fun, can't wait to raid it.

[dunkhan 8]

Sounds fun' date=' can't wait to raid it.

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I hope I am there when you do

[miradosamurai 0]

im in what server you wanna do it on..though i will need help getting there just started playing today and i dont have a map or anything like that.all i got is a lee enfield with 8 bullets and a mak with 4 or 5 mags.

one problem like with the take a city...it would be boring for the guards,unless they added a way to make locking doors and turrets that would make it hard to get into a building even mines would be nice.

[KKS3K 2]

Yep. You should suggest a server...

Idea sounds good.

Would join if possible.

[dunkhan 8]

Part of the point was to get it going on multiple servers. I am not available to try this again for a while, I will post here if I go there though. All you need is a small group and you can go there on any server and start advertising it as a safe haven. Please post any attempts here, I will do the same. There will be fights with bandits so it is recommended that it be pioneered by people who have just spawned and don't have lots of good stuff to steal. Also zombies may be spawning inside the building which may make it unsuitable. Not that there are buildings where zombies don't spawn so we may just have to live with that.

[ivan keska 39]

A barn would be best for this, one inland with a mix of open space and forest near it.

Now if you could lock down that small air strip with the 2 hangers and tower that place would be pretty good. Since it allows for supplies to be easily obtained and the tower can be easily fortified into a bunker almost, but that would require a lot of wire and sandbags. The hangers are good to because of there ease to secure and lock down.

Now you also have that little army outpost near this airstrip, it's already wired up pretty well just a few more sets and you could have only one way in and out from it. you also have a lot of buildings to and guard towers.

But remember the place has to provide protection, supplies, and be defensible.

[Sgt.Spam 42]

If this doesn't say, 'TARGET -> SHOOT HERE' all over it, I don't know what does.

:D

[Bandit Hunter 29]

A good idea, and in practice would be a great idea. It would be hard to have it staffed all the time though. Bandits, keep in mind you are not supposed to be spreading your bandit propaganda in the Survivor HQ, same as we are supposed to stay away from the campfire.

[dunkhan 8]

The reason I chose the location I did, and not a barn or an airstrip or anywhere else as suggested above, is that the location I suggested can be defended in such a way that to shoot the defenders you have to enter the building. A barn has huge open doors and the airstrip is even worse. Bandits will arrive in the surrounding areas and just snipe you from the edge of sight. With this building they have to come inside and assault. This also means if their attack fails you can safely loot their corpses. It is interesting to note that almost all the people saying 'you will get owned if you do this' are bandits themselves. I am not saying that they secretly think this is a great idea and are worried it will succeed, I think they genuinely believe it will fail. The mindset that makes someone a bandit in this game is that you can't trust anyone, people can't work together, everyone wants your loot and no one wants to collect their own, etc. If they were right about this then yes, this idea would be doomed to failure, but they are not, they are just jaded. Bandits, you will have a chance to prove me wrong, be patient. Try to find assault weapons though as you will not get me at long range. You may get visitors/foraging parties coming and going from the base though so don't throw away all your rifles.

[consti2tion 1]

sounds interesting...

[dunkhan 8]

Ok so I am going to be on Seattle for a while at the factory building, that is south of kamarovo in the docks. I will be on a few hours. If you are wearing a bandit skin you will be killed on sight. I may be able to allow friendly bandits later if this plan works out, but for the moment stay away. I am using coms (ts3), you can pm me on the forum for the details or just come on down and ask me on direct chat. I will not be advertising coms here, and I will not be advertising the safehouse in side chat until I am confident we have enough guards.

Edit: NY2 was having major lag problems so I moved to virginia2, which then went offline so then I went to virginia 4, and after a while had to move to seattle.

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Guess this is offpeak for the US, so won't be surprised if no one shows up. Nevertheless, I will be here a while longer.

[dunkhan 8]

OK I am stopping for today. Learned some things. The problem with the servers going up and down and only being joinable for a short amount of time is a major hassle. Not much that can be done about that though. There was some interest, I had about 3 people making their way down to me, but no one arrived. There was one survivor, just exploring, who came by. He looked at me a while and then shot me in the head. The lesson I learned from this is don't try to be the first member of an outpost if you have a nice looking backpack. I was expecting that to happen at least once though so no biggie. The funny thing is after losing dozens of good items to save failure/rollback in the last couple of days, when I respawned on another server I was still alive and hadn't lost anything. I guess that bug goes both ways. It means I still have a nice backpack though so I will probably get shot again by the next survivor who comes along.

I used new world order's teamspeak (they have a thread with details in this forum) which worked out well. I will try this again next time I am online. If we just had two people instead of only one, players coming in and trying to kill us wouldn't be a problem as the second player could just shoot them while they loot. Like I said 5 people would make this really defendable. Being alone kind of sucks. Anyway progress was made, but not much. Watch this space.

Edit: Someone suggested leaving contact details here, My steam name is Duncan, but a steam search for drunken4ever is likely to lead to less false positives.

[dunkhan 8]

I plan to have another crack at this today. Please post interest in meeting up. I am available now but I won't be going on or choosing a server yet as I want to try and get some people together first and not just hang out there waiting.

[sarlac 10]

Interested... "Sarlac" in steam and in game hit me up whenever.

[dunkhan 8]

Ok the new patch seems to have resulted in huge lag issues. This combined with server instability, communication being nearly impossible, and not being able to identify players, makes ideas like this something for the future, maybe. I am not giving up, but I am putting it on hold pending development changes that enable this kind of action.

[MontyPilon 0]

Find a friend and keep moving, never stay inside a town for more than 5 minutes and if you see a dead survivor wait it out. It's always best to get 1 more friend and work together as a team, waiting is always worth it, espically when those few extra seconds can be the difference between life and death.

[Zarlak 339]

It sounds proper boring, having a lookout who could stand there for about 5 hours where nobody else cares or somes near and essentially you just waste time there.

However, planning this as an actual event, where people try to get onto a low pop server just to do this would be great. Then you've got interest and you know that an attack is coming you just don't know when. You could have a massive firefight.

[Ballistic9 0]

Would it not be possible fo a group of bandits or the like to enter the unguarded safehouse on one server and then spawn on the server that you are on inside the building. That is to say they could suddenly ninja there way inside and while we are looking out of the windows for them approaching we get one in the back of the head?

[Dr Wasteland MD 597]

If you have wounded and need a Doctor, please feel free to PM me, I can't say I'll always be near Kamarovo, but I'm more than willing to make it down there. I give free transfusions, painkillers, morphine, and I'm hoping to get a supply of antibiotics.

Just let me know if you need a Doctor!

[dunkhan 8]

@ the last 3 post in the order they were posted.

Yes it is boring, but if sitting around for 5 hours and nothing happening is not your cup of tea then Day Z is probably not the game for you. Having said that I would definitely support this idea of doing it as an event in addition to trying to set it up as a more permanent thing.

Yes I have thought of bandits server hopping. There is nothing I can do to prevent them trying it. When I think of 'sufficient security' in this project I am bearing his in mind however. Sufficient would mean every room is covered by a guard. When you spawn you sit there for a while before you can move or shoot. I have been killed on the loading screen before myself. To be honest any bandit that tries this once we have enough guards is just donating his stuff to the cause.

Yes we will need a doctor. I will keep you posted. I was even considering allowing exactly one bandit to come in as a doctor if they wanted to get their humanity up, but that system is changing now so we will have to wait and see what the situation is with that. I will personally be going on or sending others on runs to cherno hospital (unless the new spawns in balota have blood) for bloodpacks and such when we get up and running. I also plan to supply food and drink and possibly ammunition if we can spare it.