osiriszoran 33 Posted July 10, 2012 Seriously, disconnecting is starting to seriously ruin the integrity of the game. It eliminates the threat of zombies, takes away from player encounters, allows for loot to be farmed and people to abuse ghosting. This has to be addressed ASAP or its going to drive people away from alpha testing the game. Just fixing this one issue will solve a slew of problems people have with the game and open up the game for far more player interactions and cooperation. Right now people can just solo thru the game no problem because they can D/C to get rid of zombies or escape player battles. Seriously add a 1 minute timer to people who DC and you will please the majority of people testing this alpha.We dont need more bear traps yet, just fix the glaring problems first!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath (DayZ) 140 Posted July 10, 2012 I'm really not sure why they are not focusing on making a working log-out timer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osiriszoran 33 Posted July 10, 2012 There is no fear when Alt F4 is near. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath (DayZ) 140 Posted July 10, 2012 It doesnt even need to be a log-out timer. So long as players disconnects from the server are delayed thats fine. So you can alt+f4, but you'll still be in the game for another 3 minutes or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phienyx 14 Posted July 10, 2012 The reason DC is probably NOT a priority because it is not a game breaking bug for anyone. So the person your shooting at gets away by an "unfair" technical means.... Big deal. Some people think being shot on sight without provocation should be dealt with first and is unfair also. So it renders zombies "not dangerous"? Well if you don't do it, that solves your problem there. You are able to experience the full danger of zombies. Why are you worried about anyone else's experience? Do I think DC needs to carry greater penalty? Yes. But looking at it objectively.... It does not ruin the individual player experience for other players because someone decides to D/C to avoid death. As long as you don't do it D/C ing does not effect you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undeadsteak 16 Posted July 10, 2012 Not everyone wants to lose their two week character. Not everyone wants to make that run back up north after just having done it. So they DC. The issue needs to be fixed so they can't. If Rocket wants people to actually be able to test his features, he's going to have to eventually address exploits that allow people to circumvent them. Indeed, please fix the D/Cing issue. If other people can do it and benefit from it, why the fuck shouldn't I? It's like not cheating in a class where the teacher doesn't care. Don't give me that shit about integrity. Not in the twenty first century, sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osiriszoran 33 Posted July 10, 2012 Not everyone wants to lose their two week character. Not everyone wants to make that run back up north after just having done it. So they DC. The issue needs to be fixed so they can't. If Rocket wants people to actually be able to test his features' date=' he's going to have to eventually address exploits that allow people to circumvent them. Indeed, please fix the D/Cing issue. If other people can do it and benefit from it, why the fuck shouldn't I? It's like not cheating in a class where the teacher doesn't care. Don't give me that shit about integrity. Not in the twenty first century, sorry.[/quote']You're playing the game wrong if you're attached to your gear. The DC ISSUE needs to be fixed and he has already called it an exploit when done in pvp or against zombies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alyas 14 Posted July 10, 2012 This morning A buddy of mine (Still feel bad for him) and myself did some night time raiding of the NW air field. We drove Some POS grey car up there from the coast. after Running down almost a hundred zombies and shouting in the night while we tried to do donuts on the Tarmac.We looted the place and i crashed into a fence busting both front tires.So we had a flare war with each other in the open field...Good times.Then a Sniper from the Control tower Some how sees us running around. This guy spams DMR rounds at us for a good 10 mins. Hits my buddy in the face losing his Camo cloths, m249, NVGs, everything you could want from a tool belt, just a mess load of nice things in his Alice pack.I hide my pretty self in a Bush telling him in vent i will guard his body until the blood god gets what is owed. 15mins later i see the bastard player cross dressed slowly coming out of the green shadows into the open.I dump a full mag of 5.56 into her as she leans over my buddy. only to watch her alt+F4 into the thin of the night air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osiriszoran 33 Posted July 10, 2012 exactly its not just people DCing when they get jumped. Its people Dcing in fair fights, People acting as Bandits and DCing when caught. Basicallhy if you dont 1 shot kill someone THEY'RE GOING TO DC. i've even gotten the KILL for shooting someone and watched them DC and their body disappear Then watched them LOAD BACK IN and continue running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alyas 14 Posted July 10, 2012 Basically if you don't 1 shot kill someone THEY'RE GOING TO DC. I've even gotten the KILL for shooting someone and watched them DC and their body disappear Then watched them LOAD BACK IN and continue running.My God.... If i saw that.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undeadsteak 16 Posted July 10, 2012 Not everyone wants to lose their two week character. Not everyone wants to make that run back up north after just having done it. So they DC. The issue needs to be fixed so they can't. If Rocket wants people to actually be able to test his features' date=' he's going to have to eventually address exploits that allow people to circumvent them. Indeed, please fix the D/Cing issue. If other people can do it and benefit from it, why the fuck shouldn't I? It's like not cheating in a class where the teacher doesn't care. Don't give me that shit about integrity. Not in the twenty first century, sorry.[/quote']You're playing the game wrong if you're attached to your gear. The DC ISSUE needs to be fixed and he has already called it an exploit when done in pvp or against zombies.So fix the exploits so the game is played as intended. What part of this concept do you not understand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifter 17 Posted July 10, 2012 Agreed. Although a simple timer is not enough. It won't stop players spawning right next to you in a building. Give players a toolbelt item like a bedroll that needs to be set up and used to disconnect. It will allow control over where players log out in the same way you can control where players put tents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KField86 237 Posted July 10, 2012 I've shot at someone at 1100M with my M107, just for kicks. So far I couldn't see what he had honestly. Anyway, at that range, the bullet takes damn near 3 seconds from when it exits the muzzle to when it impacts the target. The player somehow heard the shot, and poofed and I watched the bullet splash hit the dirt. No exaggeration. I mean it could of just been a coincidence and probably was, but I thought it was funny. :P This shit used to happen to me 9 times out of 10 when I was shooting the lower caliber sniper rifles. Now, with the M107, you don't have time to DC anymore. If I hit you, you're done. And that's good enough for me. Little bitches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoshDosh 62 Posted July 11, 2012 I was killed by a server hopper today who got hit by my M24 shot and disconnected before he died- I let my guard down and figured he'd just log on another server, but instead he disconnected, hopped on another server, bandaged and moved behind my position, then respawned and killed me while I was scanning the far area.Honestly, I don't even care that much if players disconnect on me in the middle of the fight- it just makes me feel like I won that engagement. On the other hand, bullshit like this should definitely be stomped- I've read a few other stories where disconnecters maneuver themselves behind you for an easy kill, and it completely affects other players... I think there should be a pretty harsh punishment for this, but I'm figuring that it will be dealt with later on (I can't imagine this not being fixed during beta/release). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gizm0 96 Posted July 11, 2012 I mean why not have all features in place and once the bugs of those are worked out. Doesn't D/Cers help test content and features? I mean more testing it the better and once dayz is in beta, we get rid of it and see how many people actually are able to get to the content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MadTommy 367 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Defiantly looking forward to some resolution to these issues.I believe it has been stated that a solution is being worked upon. I hope it works.. as this is the one area where the game needs a serious overhaul. Edited July 11, 2012 by MadTommy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllYoYens 34 Posted July 11, 2012 I have faith in the team. It's only alpha. After a month of playing I'm waiting for beta, I'm not going to play until the fucking tents are sorted out. Disappear, reappear. Lose my shit, it comes back. Now after the reset 4 tents are gone. No point in playing if my gear disappears all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aoshi 32 Posted July 11, 2012 fix Dc plz, we love the game, but i think its major need at this time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nebo NZ 13 Posted July 11, 2012 Who cares if people can DC, When people D/C in-front of me I'm just like MEH. Whatever, less trouble for me. And I get my ass out of there.-HERES THE RULE. [if they are able to Disconnect, You obviously missed the head] Get better kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsax 14 Posted July 11, 2012 The reason DC is probably NOT a priority because it is not a game breaking bug for anyone. So the person your shooting at gets away by an "unfair" technical means.... Big deal. Some people think being shot on sight without provocation should be dealt with first and is unfair also. So it renders zombies "not dangerous"? Well if you don't do it, that solves your problem there. You are able to experience the full danger of zombies. Why are you worried about anyone else's experience?Do I think DC needs to carry greater penalty? Yes. But looking at it objectively.... It does not ruin the individual player experience for other players because someone decides to D/C to avoid death. As long as you don't do it D/C ing does not effect you.Problem with fixing the KOS deal going on now is that there needs to be a version of ROE implemented into the game. There needs to be a proper way to identify each other without altercation to start, and to have a decent system of walking away from those engagements without shots fired, such as an instance when two players are simply moving between the map and aren't being bandits in the slightest, or when having a shoot out is a detriment to both players because of the zeds in the near by area. The question is, how can that be implemented without breaking the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesquik 75 Posted July 11, 2012 Seriously, disconnecting is starting to seriously ruin the integrity of the game. It eliminates the threat of zombies, takes away from player encounters, allows for loot to be farmed and people to abuse ghosting. This has to be addressed ASAP or its going to drive people away from alpha testing the game. Just fixing this one issue will solve a slew of problems people have with the game and open up the game for far more player interactions and cooperation. Right now people can just solo thru the game no problem because they can D/C to get rid of zombies or escape player battles. Seriously add a 1 minute timer to people who DC and you will please the majority of people testing this alpha.We dont need more bear traps yet, just fix the glaring problems first!!!I completely agree as it makes the whole game a joke. Disconnecting and duping should be ironed out as a priority then the entire database should be wiped and we should all start over. Server hopping should come in at a close second.@Nebo You're missing the point. You don't fix exploiters by only shooting them in the head because you are still left with a broken game mechanic. I've shot people in the head, saw that they died, and received a bandit/murder and watched as they disconnected and took their corpse with them. It's absolute nonsense. You also don't seem to care about addressing the way we can just make every zed disappear by disconnecting instead of using ammo and giving off our position. Ever since everyone realized you could just disconnect the servers got a lot quieter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesquik 75 Posted July 11, 2012 I was killed by a server hopper today who got hit by my M24 shot and disconnected before he died- I let my guard down and figured he'd just log on another server, but instead he disconnected, hopped on another server, bandaged and moved behind my position, then respawned and killed me while I was scanning the far area.Honestly, I don't even care that much if players disconnect on me in the middle of the fight- it just makes me feel like I won that engagement. On the other hand, bullshit like this should definitely be stomped- I've read a few other stories where disconnecters maneuver themselves behind you for an easy kill, and it completely affects other players... I think there should be a pretty harsh punishment for this, but I'm figuring that it will be dealt with later on (I can't imagine this not being fixed during beta/release).Both issues must be stomped with equal force because they both break the game and our immersion. It allows people to be careless and get away with it. It makes careful deliberate play less useful instead of required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoshDosh 62 Posted July 11, 2012 Who cares if people can DC, When people D/C in-front of me I'm just like MEH. Whatever, less trouble for me. And I get my ass out of there.-HERES THE RULE.[if they are able to Disconnect, You obviously missed the head]Get better kids.Except "You obviously missed the head, Get better kids." is a COD mentality that isn't supported by the ARMA milsim, where you're supposed to favor center of mass. You can go back to playing BF or COD if you want to be a 1337 h34dsh0t m4st3r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrail (DayZ) 211 Posted July 11, 2012 I dont need more bear traps yetfixed that for you.alpha test = testing how new features fit into the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogan (DayZ) 24 Posted July 11, 2012 This really isn't a major issue for me. My day isn't made or lost on the suffering of another player, if they care so much about some time they wasted playing a game then that's their problem. It has very little effect on the playability of this alpha build.Except "You obviously missed the head, Get better kids." is a COD mentality that isn't supported by the ARMA milsim, where you're supposed to favor center of mass. You can go back to playing BF or COD if you want to be a 1337 h34dsh0t m4st3rBodyshot with a Lee Enfield is going to be a kill on this server or the server you connect to next. Unless of course they hit Alt-F4, even then why should I care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites