Testing area?

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Would it be possible for the devs to create a testing area with a shooting range, all featured weapons and animals running around?

Like in it's own "world" so it's not added to the Chernaus map.

 

 

That would be great for testing new weapons, instead of everyone trying to find them and half of them getting killed while looking. Or not having enough ammo to use them for very long.

Not sure if PVP could be disabled or if it could just be an offline thing anyone can use at any time, the latter would no doubt be better.

 

 

I know it would take some time and effort which would then not be focused on the game but I don't mean anything fancy, just a quick barely designed area that functions. Perhaps even just a copy and paste area from Chernaus if that could be done.

 

 

I think it'd be a great addition, I bet a lot of complaints about how inaccurate guns are actually revolve around issues like lag and connection so if it was an offline area people would see the true dispersion etc guns have.

[5mirkeh 98]

I would just be happy with some kind of firing range with targets at different ranges on the map itself :-/

[UltimateGentleman 355]

I would just be happy with some kind of firing range with targets at different ranges on the map itself :-/

 

There's one at one of the airfields...but good luck testing guns there without people coming and killing you :P

 

That's basically the problem, you can't really test how good a gun is if someone kills you first with better skills or a more accurate gun and you can't shoot at trees to check aiming because someone will hear the shots and find you before you get enough data to contribute to testing.

 

And it's not like you can just say "plz don't shoot me" you'd be dead before finishing the sentence.

 

 

So an offline testing area would be great it would save so much time and would give people who can't get in to any experimental servers something to do.

[demongornot 23]

Or a singleplayer mode where our character don't merge with MP one (for avoid to gear up before coming to MP)

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/202269-my-huge-suggestion-list-long-topic/#entry2033635 part #1
Adding this will fix every issues at once, and a BENCH of people don't like the multiplayer but enjoy the zombie/survival aspects, anyway i think i will simply stop playing this game until it get REALLY improved (yeah i know, its an early access, but things such as ridiculously short axe duration is NOT a issue with Early Access, this is a feature put to be probably a final feature) or until a SP mode is added.

[Mos1ey 6301]

Or a singleplayer mode where our character don't merge with MP one (for avoid to gear up before coming to MP)

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/202269-my-huge-suggestion-list-long-topic/#entry2033635 part #1

Adding this will fix every issues at once, and a BENCH of people don't like the multiplayer but enjoy the zombie/survival aspects, anyway i think i will simply stop playing this game until it get REALLY improved (yeah i know, its an early access, but things such as ridiculously short axe duration is NOT a issue with Early Access, this is a feature put to be probably a final feature) or until a SP mode is added.

 

Rocket has always said that he would never create a singleplayer version of DayZ. The fact that everything is player driven is what makes DayZ.

[5mirkeh 98]

Or a singleplayer mode where our character don't merge with MP one (for avoid to gear up before coming to MP)

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/202269-my-huge-suggestion-list-long-topic/#entry2033635 part #1

Adding this will fix every issues at once, and a BENCH of people don't like the multiplayer but enjoy the zombie/survival aspects, anyway i think i will simply stop playing this game until it get REALLY improved (yeah i know, its an early access, but things such as ridiculously short axe duration is NOT a issue with Early Access, this is a feature put to be probably a final feature) or until a SP mode is added.

Goddammit I messed up again!

Edited September 29, 2014 by 5mirkeh

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

Rocket has always said that he would never create a singleplayer version of DayZ. The fact that everything is player driven is what makes DayZ.

 

A reason why I love this game and continue to play it. Rocket also mentioned his views in regards to multiplayer driving Dayz in the EGX London stream aswell. 

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/211974-egx-london-dev-session-online-worlds-with-dean-hall/

 

I personally do not like the idea of a "tutorial" and or "Armory." Getting thrown in with the wolves is why this game is so great.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Steak and Potatoes

[fowang 60]

Exactly!

[Mos1ey 6301]

A reason why I love this game and continue to play it. Rocket also mentioned his views in regards to multiplayer driving Dayz in the EGX London stream aswell. 

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/211974-egx-london-dev-session-online-worlds-with-dean-hall/

 

I personally do not like the idea of a "tutorial" and or "Armory." Getting thrown in with the wolves is why this game is so great.

 

I agree. Also an "armory" type feature would give the impression that combat is the main focus of the game IMO.

[sfx 22]

what if I told you you can join a low populated server (5-10) players and you're pretty much free to loot and test for most of the time. I'm actually doing this quite often.

[demongornot 23]

Why the hell people are against SP mode ?

Seriously, in just need to run on localhost that can't connect through internet, a lot of game do this, this is even how Minecraft SP mode work, their is almost no changes, and peoples in MP will have ABSOLUTELY NO change, except maybe better testing from SP people without lag, bugs, disconnection and KOS that are encounter in MP which will make the game better...

 

Seriously people ?
Don't want a SP game to become MP, yes i can understand, just look at what damage it create to SimCity for example cause of the restrictions, but c'mon what is the point of don't want a SP mode ?

Are you afraid to see everyone leaving MP for playing SP ? If it was the case, it mean that the game should BE SP from scratches...
But no it won't happen, even if per miracle an SP mode is added, their will still PLENTY of full server, do you know why half of the server hooper do this ?
Cause they hate to play a game where every objects on the whole map was already scavenged by people, and they change server, or they don't like others players, with stupid KOS attitude and the stupid clans which are most of the time full of stupid people who sometimes kill each others for NOTHING or kill KOS no reasons cause everyone except one what to be "friendly" and rather than dispute the stupid KOS guy, they laugh about what he have done, cause YES, even in video game people in group become stupid.

 

YES a lot of server hooper do this for trying to find an empty server, its my case, i don't care about the gear, i just want to almost never find player, cause IRL in case of survival situation, encounter with others people will be RARE, and KOS will also be, cause you will have almost see no one since a while, and even if you are afraid to be killed, you will want a friendly contact, trust me, you will be quickly bored to talk alone (or not talk and almost forget how to do this after years of solitude) and the guy you find can be useful to you.
But in DayZ hahaha that's a joke, in full server, even in the middle of nowhere, we can find bench of people, this is why everyone KOS, cause their is TOO MUCH encounter, you like it ? fine, but don't stop people who want to play alone to have this.
The game will probably already have a SP mode since a while if people don't want to prevent it for ABSOLUTELY NO REAL/VALID REASONS.
Result ?
You see a BENCH of "don't join or kick, join = character reset, clan server, private server" and others server like this, cause yes the majority don't do it for having a free gear up server, but just for play ALONE, they are not authorized and still be maybe the majority of online servers, so if you don't want SP mode to be in the game, don't complain about server hooper and all those privates servers.
NO ONE have NEVER stated that surviving game should be MP only, some are SP only and work way better than DayZ.

And NO the game is not build around player interaction, that why people who want to play alone and try to find empty servers OR create their private "don't join" servers can play fine, and quietly without find a douche bag that KOS, or WORST, say friendly, help you, and suddenly, just cause is douche bag mode turn on, kill you for NO REASONS, not even for take your stuff, and their is plenty of guy like this.

 

The game is about surviving AND zombies, players are secondary on both gameplay and the way the game work.

And based on the fact that with all the lags, bugs, disconnections and others issues with the MP that will probably for some of they be NEVER fixed even 2 years after the official release, their is another reason to prefer playing SP.
The only time i have join a almost full server was cause i wanted to play in Hardcore server with persistence, sadly a single was available and almost full, the game lagged like hell, and i was not able to find a single object, even a rotten fruit...So yes i won't play again on server that have more than 5 peoples if i ever play the game again...
In fact SP mode will probably have MORE zombies, cause a single player only to handle, no lag, and a lot of advantages that will make happen things that everyone want.
Better zombies, more zombies and better stability.

 

But yes keep be hostile for no reasons against SP mode...

Anyway DayZ is ruined by players, i'll wait for Survive the Night and H1Z1 which even if their are only MP (fault of DayZ, cause everyone copy it like stupid and don't want to innovate, if DayZ have a SP mode, others game would also have) they look WAY BETTER than DayZ...

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Why the hell people are against SP mode ?

Seriously, in just need to run on localhost that can't connect through internet, a lot of game do this, this is even how Minecraft SP mode work, their is almost no changes, and peoples in MP will have ABSOLUTELY NO change, except maybe better testing from SP people without lag, bugs, disconnection and KOS that are encounter in MP which will make the game better...

 

Seriously people ?

Don't want a SP game to become MP, yes i can understand, just look at what damage it create to SimCity for example cause of the restrictions, but c'mon what is the point of don't want a SP mode ?

Are you afraid to see everyone leaving MP for playing SP ? If it was the case, it mean that the game should BE SP from scratches...

But no it won't happen, even if per miracle an SP mode is added, their will still PLENTY of full server, do you know why half of the server hooper do this ?

Cause they hate to play a game where every objects on the whole map was already scavenged by people, and they change server, or they don't like others players, with stupid KOS attitude and the stupid clans which are most of the time full of stupid people who sometimes kill each others for NOTHING or kill KOS no reasons cause everyone except one what to be "friendly" and rather than dispute the stupid KOS guy, they laugh about what he have done, cause YES, even in video game people in group become stupid.

 

YES a lot of server hooper do this for trying to find an empty server, its my case, i don't care about the gear, i just want to almost never find player, cause IRL in case of survival situation, encounter with others people will be RARE, and KOS will also be, cause you will have almost see no one since a while, and even if you are afraid to be killed, you will want a friendly contact, trust me, you will be quickly bored to talk alone (or not talk and almost forget how to do this after years of solitude) and the guy you find can be useful to you.

But in DayZ hahaha that's a joke, in full server, even in the middle of nowhere, we can find bench of people, this is why everyone KOS, cause their is TOO MUCH encounter, you like it ? fine, but don't stop people who want to play alone to have this.

The game will probably already have a SP mode since a while if people don't want to prevent it for ABSOLUTELY NO REAL/VALID REASONS.

Result ?

You see a BENCH of "don't join or kick, join = character reset, clan server, private server" and others server like this, cause yes the majority don't do it for having a free gear up server, but just for play ALONE, they are not authorized and still be maybe the majority of online servers, so if you don't want SP mode to be in the game, don't complain about server hooper and all those privates servers.

NO ONE have NEVER stated that surviving game should be MP only, some are SP only and work way better than DayZ.

And NO the game is not build around player interaction, that why people who want to play alone and try to find empty servers OR create their private "don't join" servers can play fine, and quietly without find a douche bag that KOS, or WORST, say friendly, help you, and suddenly, just cause is douche bag mode turn on, kill you for NO REASONS, not even for take your stuff, and their is plenty of guy like this.

 

The game is about surviving AND zombies, players are secondary on both gameplay and the way the game work.

And based on the fact that with all the lags, bugs, disconnections and others issues with the MP that will probably for some of they be NEVER fixed even 2 years after the official release, their is another reason to prefer playing SP.

The only time i have join a almost full server was cause i wanted to play in Hardcore server with persistence, sadly a single was available and almost full, the game lagged like hell, and i was not able to find a single object, even a rotten fruit...So yes i won't play again on server that have more than 5 peoples if i ever play the game again...

In fact SP mode will probably have MORE zombies, cause a single player only to handle, no lag, and a lot of advantages that will make happen things that everyone want.

Better zombies, more zombies and better stability.

 

But yes keep be hostile for no reasons against SP mode...

Anyway DayZ is ruined by players, i'll wait for Survive the Night and H1Z1 which even if their are only MP (fault of DayZ, cause everyone copy it like stupid and don't want to innovate, if DayZ have a SP mode, others game would also have) they look WAY BETTER than DayZ...

So go buy a single player zombie game?  Are you really complaining about buying a multiplayer game and then demanding the developers make it single player?  

[Cpanther 221]

I agree. Also an "armory" type feature would give the impression that combat is the main focus of the game IMO.

People already have that impression :P I guess all the different type of weapons, with lots of ammo, explosives, military gear and camps, weapon attachments, and people shooting each other all the time... is giving that impression...it started a survival game, but is starting to look more and more like another Arma game.

[demongornot 23]

So go buy a single player zombie game?  Are you really complaining about buying a multiplayer game and then demanding the developers make it single player?  

Ok, give me the link of this game.

You know what is the problem with our world ?

One of the issue on computer world is that most of the time someone do something, it doing it wrong or in a really bad way, and everyone copy him cause he was the first (which don't mean THE example, the best or anything) because yes, when an idea work, people are too lazy to find an alternative, they just follow EXACTLY the same path and say, if it work for him, it will work for me.

And sadly rather than making a SP + MP zombie game, devs have choose only for personal reasons.

Also, when someone do something, a lot of people that could have done way better don't do it, they don't want to waste their time doing again what someone already do, and they don't even take their time to check if it is already correctly done or not, result ?

When someone do a bad thing, most of the time, it stay behind the only alternative cause rather than just talk about this idea and lets someone who have real capacity to CORRECTLY do it, he do it, and no one else do it.

You can check it with a BENCH of games, and not only games, its also work for software, 3D animation, movies, short movies, pranks,  youtube channel, tutorials etc etc.

I'm sure i can even make the math and create a law about it...Exactly like the Murphy Law, the Moore Law and others law or better example the Wadsworth Constant.

 

So yes i'm complaining cause just because of a stupid personal idea/fixation of Rocket that is by the way wrong DayZ and a bench of others survival games (that just follow the path of DayZ who have working, which don't mean that it is 100% right or that he can't work better by adding SP and attract all those who want SP and survival).

 

And when i have buy this game it was not a KOS world polluted by server hoppers, empty server hard to find cause of all privates server show in public and with a lot of new stupid decision that make DayZ switch from realistic survival game to a arcade survival game.

Their is no other highly realistic survival game, you know why ? Exactly cause i have already write, cause DayZ is already here and was sadly not the best game and not even really good, and also cause when someone do something, you can't do exactly the same in better without face the law and copyright limitation.

So if you know a good zombies (or not, i don't care about zombies, this is the survival aspect that i like) survival game in SP that is REALISTIC, recent (at least not too old) and not limited with stupid unrealistic (but "balanced/gameplay") restriction which is against realism for most of the game...Well give me the link and i'll stop complain about DayZ and if you want even delete my account from the forum, but if their is not, probably cause DayZ is already here and prevent every possibility of better game like this that follow same basic rules of gameplay which include realism, i'll keep say what i think.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

I agree. Also an "armory" type feature would give the impression that combat is the main focus of the game IMO.

 

Like 99% of the players give that impression anyway, at least with that new players could be like "Well okay, I can expect some PVP for sure"

 

Perhaps add in some spawn commands then so there's not weapons everywhere, spawn AKM, spawn deer, test.

 

 

what if I told you you can join a low populated server (5-10) players and you're pretty much free to loot and test for most of the time. I'm actually doing this quite often.

 

But if you're going anywhere where newer weapons are going to spawn, most likely airfields and other military areas...that's just where those people will be. The people in low pop servers are pretty much all always there for loot/an easy ride so it's still very risky.

Plus you'd be using up all your ammo, or you might only find a box of the right ammo for the gun, 20 rounds isn't enough to get a good feel for the weapon or see how well it performs.

 

 

It'd be a great way to divide the attention going on new updates, people in multiplayer can go see what the spawn rates are like, and probably get killed by other people looking. While people in a test area can see how well they shoot, reload etc since in a server if a bullet misses you can't really tell if the gun is just shitty or if one of the players was lagging or if your aim was just off. I'm sure there's probably been a ton of complaints about how inaccurate some guns are when their lagging worse than 90's internet would.

 

 

It would also give people something to do when servers are broken or updating, spawn AKM and drum mag, turn god mode off, spawn 50 zombies. Maybe friends could even join and you could duke it out and have fun while the game is developed since in it's current state it might not be satisfying to some.