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Ok, you state that removing NVG's will increase balance. Rocket says, and I completely agree with him, that he does not understand people's obsession with balance in games. In a real situation, people with NVG's will have the advantage over people who don't.

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If you take them out for a couple of patches' date=' things will be even worse. Those who are alive already with them won't even have to worry about new spawns getting them.

If you remove the spawns + from player inventory's, you will have a whole new level of rage from people with NVG's crying that they were removed after they spent time getting them.

If you want to play daytime, play on a daytime server. It's as easy as that. (I don't have NVG)

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So? There's already an excessive tidal wave about unarmed nubs getting shit on by people with endgame gear being dicks in cherno. and NVGs are about as easy to get as a can of beans, all you need to find is a crashed helicopter or stumble upon any of the (EXTREMELY WIDE OPEN, UNGATED MILITARY BASES) and things are looking pretty good in your favor. The only people that will cry are the people that have had them for a while and can't fathom to play any other way.

On a last note: I've had NVGs before, and yeah, they're sort of broken. I'd like to see it tested.


Ok' date=' you state that removing NVG's will increase balance. Rocket says, and I completely agree with him, that he does not understand people's obsession with balance in games. In a real situation, people with NVG's will have the advantage over people who don't.

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It's really quite a vicious circle, the people that are shitting on everyone, will eventually quit because they've achieved a plateau-effect. They have everything, they kill everything. The people getting shit on by everyone, will bombard the forums crying for balance. The end result? Both sides will quit for various reasons. The reason why balance is so important in a game is because the sole intention of a game is for everyone to have fun, right? I understand that he's going for a 100% original, authentic zombie apocalypse survival game based on real life. But, a zombie apocalypse is not now nor in a million years ever going to happen. In a real situation? If it was a real situation they wouldn't even be in this situation to begin with mate..

The point I'm really trying to get across is if you strive to achieve 100% realism you're going to completely run the game into the ground and it'll be known as a great concept, but a horrible execution. How many other games have had this happen in the past?

The horrors...

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When I had NVG's, I only played on night servers. Now I dont have 'em, and I NEVER play on night servers. Yeah. I'm a fucking pussy, so what..

So YES. Removing them would certainly make the game alot more fun, with a whole different gameplay at night. There are loads of NVG's, and there's no point playing on a night server without them. It's a suicide.

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Ander from the Dayz Staff posted this:

Statistics update:

- Approximately 2.6% of all current survivor and bandits combined have NVGs.

2.6% ..... Nuff said!

Edited by RaviN

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I still haven't seen a convincing argument for keeping the NVG.

Give it a go, be nice to see people having to use the light vs risk mechanic.

People dont play at night because you can be sneaking around all you want and some guy will just be watching you with thermal / nvg.

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I honestly don't understand why people don't play at night. You don't need NVGs, just crank your gamma. Zombies can hardly see you, you can see fine, and players with NVG are only at a modest advantage.

My suggestion here would be to make a note for the standalone: find a way to keep it hard to see at night, even with your gamma cranked.

Edited by Flambo

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Yes, it's Alpha like a lot of people say.

Let's try taking it away and if it doesn't work we bring them back.

We should take the Alpha time to break the game and make stupid decisions and see how they go anyways.

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you say there is no convincing argument for keeping the NVG, yet there is no convincing argument for removing the NVG.

"because its alpha and we should" is bullshit.

...you get killed at night so he MUST have NVG's.. but he probably just has his gamma turned up!

there is only 2.6% of all players that have NVG's. (those players that actually go ond scout the map looking for loot and eventually find NVG or the players that play in a team and are given a spare set of NVG's.) also if you are too stupid enough to go into somewhere like NWAF, you deserve to die, or come out of it alive with GOOD LOOT = NVG's, cool guns etc!

these still RARE items are a REWARD for exploring and SURVIVING, so why should we REWARD the ones that dont explore.. with removing the NVG's?

People can and will play at night because you can sneak around, that is the point in playing at night.

next you will be saying to remove all guns to stop player killing :D

i suggest you carebares go play ~MineZ instead of ~Dayz because it seems to me ~Dayz is too hardcore for you.

Edited by RaviN

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