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Question about murder counter and damage.

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Hello all.

First question is about murder counter. So I was at the quarry near Solnichny as I saw a figure running near the city. It was really far away so I saw just few pixels but anyway recognized it as crouch-run with long rifle. I went prone, brought iron sight of my beloved Enfield and made a shot. It landed much below the figure. The survivor hits the dirt and starts to crawl. I adjust my aim by pointing few millimeters higher, then BOOM – as I see the cloud appeared just at the point where pixels were crawling. But I don’t see the figure anymore: it's on edge of a view distance + grass layer. I made few more shots to the same location to empty the clip. I checked my murder count and it was 0 (fresh character hehe). So I thought "whatever, no chance to hit, he was too far away". But on my way downhill I suddenly notice that murder counter increased to 1! So my question is if person dies from bleeding does it count for me as a kill? Or just the counter update is too slow?

Second question is about Glock17 and it's firepower. So I was looting that 5-story building in Berezino as suddenly I hear footsteps in the next room. "Server hoppers" – I say to myself. I run into the next room: guy with ghillie suit and DMR. Does he have a chance with his sniper rifle against me in CQC? Of course not (it was veteran server with no crosshair too). I unload half a clip on him, he has blood fountains all over his body and… disappears! "FUCKING DC COWARD" – I tell myself. As of fear that he will reconnect behind me I start to run to the staircase to escape the building. There I find another guy with shotgun. As I get right in front of him, unload the rest of the clip which is 7-8 shots, I clearly see the shots hit (those red clouds that represent blood). He's bleeding like fucking fountain! But doesn’t die! While I go backward to reload my pistol he finally gets an aim and shoots me to death. So WTF with Glock? Is it so underpowered? It was zero distance, I saw my every shot lands on their bodies! Or were they fucking cheaters?

What I learnt from this encounter is that you have to use the heaviest gun you have. I had AKM on my back. I was using G17 just because I didn’t want to waste precious ammo on some random zombie that could spawn inside the building.

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Answer One: Yes, bleed out counts as you killing them.

Answer Two: Depends on shot placement. Most guns are 3 shots to the body for a kill. The blood cloud can happen and shots not affect the target, however. It's due to server lag and poor hit registration.

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Thank you for the answer. But it was much more than 3 hits. Ok, I may understand how I didnt kill the first guy - maybe he DC'ed right away and I was shooting his ghost. But the second one was moving and trying to get and aim on me. He got about 8 bullets in the chest region. There were blood fountains all over his body. And when you die you have few seconds before that "you're dead" screen appears. During that time I saw him approach me and crouch above my body. I know about the lag and that guy may die after few seconds he got hit. But I should have seen him dying during these last seconds! I cant belive he survived 8 gunshots. He should have at least lose his consciousness because of pain.

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