antonioajc 500 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I defs agree. I get REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY tired of seeing, "omg this fucking game and it's bugs, omfg fix them shit devs." It does get quite annoying being on the forums since august of 2012, and seeing these topics everyday of whiners. Gets old. Really old. I used to find them funny, now it gets me grumpy. Damn it. Edited March 16, 2014 by AntonioAJC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonySK 60 Posted March 16, 2014 Two threads made fifteen minutes apart, talking about exactly the same thing...and some wonder why people get annoyed in their responses? http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/180287-a-real-problem/ There are separate teams working on different parts of the game. While the optimization team works on...optimization. The content team keeps working on content. If content gets done, it gets added. The optimization team is still working on optimization. That is just how it is. Telling people this has nothing to do with trying to kiss ass. It's to help people understand the process that this dev team uses. Thing will be fixed. If you can't be patient, then play something else. I hate saying 'it's alpha', but...this is part of what comes when a game is still in alpha.I give this fanboy reply a 5/10. You can do better than this. You get minus points for not using caps when you say alpha and for not underlining it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted March 16, 2014 I give this fanboy reply a 5/10. You can do better than this. You get minus points for not using caps when you say alpha and for not underlining it.Stop trolling and leave if you're not going to contribute to the discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonioajc 500 Posted March 16, 2014 I give this fanboy reply a 5/10. You can do better than this. You get minus points for not using caps when you say alpha and for not underlining it.How is this a "fanboy reply"? He's just talking about how these rant threads are getting old really fast and their frequent rate of people posting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowball (DayZ) 115 Posted March 16, 2014 Two threads made almost thirty minutes apart, talking about exactly the same thing...and some wonder why people get annoyed in their responses? http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/180287-a-real-problem/ There are separate teams working on different parts of the game. While the optimization team works on...optimization. The content team keeps working on content. If content gets done, it gets added. The optimization team is still working on optimization. That is just how it is. Telling people this has nothing to do with trying to kiss ass. It's to help people understand the process that this dev team uses. Thing will be fixed. If you can't be patient, then play something else. I hate saying 'it's alpha', but...this is part of what comes when a game is still in alpha. [edit: had to fix the time.]1. It's starting to look an awful lot like ass-kissing when you see the same counter-argument copy-pasted all over these threads in the forums2. Helping people understand with "ITS A FUCKING ALPHA!!!" doesn't make much sense to me.3. The people making these threads can't do anything about the fact they were posted in such a short time-period.4. Maybe you should say "It's alpha" a few more times. I absolutely have not seen that sentence ANYWHERE on this forum --". 5. If you're going to complain about repetetiveness of posts, read above sentence.6.If you don't like seeing your so called QQ-threads then my best advice for you would be to remove your account on this forum and never ever come back. These threads were here since the beginning, they are here, and they will be here for a longgg time.7. I have no idea why I'm numbering this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonioajc 500 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) 1. It's starting to look an awful lot like ass-kissing when you see the same counter-argument copy-pasted all over these threads in the forums2. Helping people understand with "ITS A FUCKING ALPHA!!!" doesn't make much sense to me.3. The people making these threads can't do anything about the fact they were posted in such a short time-period.4. Maybe you should say "It's alpha" a few more times. I absolutely have not seen that sentence ANYWHERE on this forum --". 5. If you're going to complain about repetetiveness of posts, read above sentence.6.If you don't like seeing your so called QQ-threads then my best advice for you would be to remove your account on this forum and never ever come back. These threads were here since the beginning, they are here, and they will be here for a longgg time.7. I have no idea why I'm numbering this. Edited March 16, 2014 by AntonioAJC 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowball (DayZ) 115 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I defs agree. I get REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY tired of seeing, "omg this fucking game and it's bugs, omfg fix them shit devs." It does get quite annoying being on the forums since august of 2012, and seeing these topics everyday of whiners. Gets old. Really old. Two threads made almost thirty minutes apart, talking about exactly the same thing...and some wonder why people get annoyed in their responses? http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/180287-a-real-problem/ There are separate teams working on different parts of the game. While the optimization team works on...optimization. The content team keeps working on content. If content gets done, it gets added. The optimization team is still working on optimization. That is just how it is. Telling people this has nothing to do with trying to kiss ass. It's to help people understand the process that this dev team uses. Thing will be fixed. If you can't be patient, then play something else. I hate saying 'it's alpha', but...this is part of what comes when a game is still in alpha. [edit: had to fix the time.]1. It's starting to look an awful lot like ass-kissing when you see the same counter-argument copy-pasted all over these threads in the forums2. Helping people understand with "ITS A FUCKING ALPHA!!!" doesn't make much sense to me.3. The people making these threads can't do anything about the fact they were posted in such a short time-period.4. Maybe you should say "It's alpha" a few more times. I absolutely have not seen that sentence ANYWHERE on this forum --". 5. If you're going to complain about repetetiveness of posts, read above sentence.6.If you don't like seeing your so called QQ-threads then my best advice for you would be to remove your account on this forum and never ever come back. These threads were here since the beginning, they are here, and they will be here for a longgg time.7. I have no idea why I'm numbering this.[edit: made some mistakes with previous post, hence is why I re-posted] Edited March 16, 2014 by Snowball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowball (DayZ) 115 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) die...but take my beans.In that order Edited March 16, 2014 by Snowball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) 1. It's starting to look an awful lot like ass-kissing when you see the same counter-argument copy-pasted all over these threads in the forums2. Helping people understand with "ITS A FUCKING ALPHA!!!" doesn't make much sense to me.3. The people making these threads can't do anything about the fact they were posted in such a short time-period.4. Maybe you should say "It's alpha" a few more times. I absolutely have not seen that sentence ANYWHERE on this forum --". 5. If you're going to complain about repetetiveness of posts, read above sentence.6.If you don't like seeing your so called QQ-threads then my best advice for you would be to remove your account on this forum and never ever come back. These threads were here since the beginning, they are here, and they will be here for a longgg time.7. I have no idea why I'm numbering this. You have 60 posts. How long do you know that threads have been beginning and popping up? These threads never really came up until DayZ SA came out. The problem with selling it to over 1.5 million people, is that it makes a LOT of whiners come onto the forums. I never saw this when the Mod was out, because people actually had to have knowledge to play it. They understood it was a Mod. People just don't get what an alpha means. And day after day after day I see these stupid threads whining about how they expected it to be an amazing game, when in reality it's an alpha Barely anyone seems to get this concept on the forums, and i'm guessing its cause their mothers bought it for them. I also notice, that they come on the forums a lot, JUST to bitch and then never reply to their topic, or do anything with it that is helpful to the devs. Stop trying to act like you know whats been going on for the past few years, and please, if you do not know anything. Escort yourself out of the thread. Edited March 16, 2014 by AsOiX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlander007 249 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) forum (ˈfɔːrəm) —n , pl -rums, -ra 1. a meeting or assembly for the open discussion of subjects of public interest 2. a medium for open discussion, such as a magazine 3. a public meeting place for open discussion 4. a court; tribunal 700 posts in and he still doesn't know where the fck he is... Snap out of it. this is not a Dayz fanclub, it's a fucking Forum Edited March 16, 2014 by Highlander007 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weedmasta 784 Posted March 16, 2014 Before you tell me this game is in Alpha let me remind you the devs are working on adding cooking...COOKING. Cooking should not even be on the table while simple yet seriously important game mechanics are so badly broken...I can put up with bugs, missing features, regular character wipes and little content but broken PVP mechanics in a game centered around survival is completely unacceptable....this is pre-alpha crap....let me explain. Long story short....im on sniper hill with two friends, one is on the peak (top), and two of us are 1/2 way down. two players come up hill and engage our friend on top...they don't see us standing 75 yards away from them at an equal altitude from them, they are completely focused on our guy up top of hill, they are crouched, we are prone....I shoot my Mosin...hit ground in front of me...I go crouched, shoot hit ground in front of me.....I stand up...shoot, hit ground in front of me as if I was still laying down, I move left then shoot my remaining 2 shots, then a reload, then 5 more shots all go into never-never land. the friend standing next to me is shooting with his M4, open sights, in the end he shoots 54 rounds of ammo and thinks he might have hit one guy once but he didn't go down, just thinks he saw some blood....we are out of ammo and they run off un-damaged......this is complete crap. we should have tore them up.....we had complete advantage and surprise and firepower....most of our rounds should have hit them and killed them several times over...maybe I should go back to Battlefield 4, at least I can shoot a guy I'm aiming at. TL;DR AMG I WAZ SNIPING YO AND LIFES NOT FAIR! p.s.: Yes, go back to Battlefield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted March 16, 2014 forum (ˈfɔːrəm) —n , pl -rums, -ra 1. A place where all the whiners and beggers come to complain about why they died, and like to complain rather than calmley reporting it to the dev tracker 2. a medium for open discussion, such as a magazine 3. a public meeting place for open discussion 4. a court; tribunal 700 posts in and he still doesn't know where the fck he is... Snap out of it. this is not a Dayz fanclub, it's a fucking ForumMy interpretation of that on what really happens on the DayZ forums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savini 587 Posted March 16, 2014 I give this fanboy reply a 5/10. You can do better than this. You get minus points for not using caps when you say alpha and for not underlining it. Criticize all you like, but telling the dev team they are slow at optimizing the game...wtf is the point? It doesn't make them work faster. Noones telling you not to criticize. You just need to figure out what constructive criticism is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowball (DayZ) 115 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) You have 60 posts. How long do you know that threads have been beginning and popping up? These threads never really came up until DayZ SA came out. The problem with selling it to over 1.5 million people, is that it makes a LOT of whiners come onto the forums. I never saw this when the Mod was out, because people actually had to have knowledge to play it. They understood it was a Mod. People just don't get what an alpha means. And day after day after day I see these stupid threads whining about how they expected it to be an amazing game, when in reality it's an alpha Barely anyone seems to get this concept on the forums, and i'm guessing its cause their mothers bought it for them. I also notice, that they come on the forums a lot, JUST to bitch and then never reply to their topic, or do anything with it that is helpful to the devs. Stop trying to act like you know whats been going on for the past few years, and please, if you do not know anything. Escort yourself out of the thread.I was talking about the SA...which, I believe, is what we were discussing in the first place.Also, your last part is laughable. Complete with pretentiouss "so-much-experience"-bs. And I'm assuming your mother didn't buy you anything in your youth? ;) Edited March 16, 2014 by Snowball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT111 23 Posted March 16, 2014 Maybe your just a shit aim? ever thought of that? this is a forum not a site you post your life story of missing from 75 yards away! To many QQ <---- see that pic, that's me, I own more guns and shoot more rounds per year IRL then you will ever dream of. I do not miss, especially at a target only 75 yards away whom was not behind any cover whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlander007 249 Posted March 16, 2014 My interpretation of that on what really happens on the DayZ forums.Your interpretations are wrong. We are using this page as it's intended to be used. Stop trying to stifle other players voices of discontent for no good reason at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savini 587 Posted March 16, 2014 1. It's starting to look an awful lot like ass-kissing when you see the same counter-argument copy-pasted all over these threads in the forums2. Helping people understand with "ITS A FUCKING ALPHA!!!" doesn't make much sense to me.3. The people making these threads can't do anything about the fact they were posted in such a short time-period.4. Maybe you should say "It's alpha" a few more times. I absolutely have not seen that sentence ANYWHERE on this forum --". 5. If you're going to complain about repetetiveness of posts, read above sentence.6.If you don't like seeing your so called QQ-threads then my best advice for you would be to remove your account on this forum and never ever come back. These threads were here since the beginning, they are here, and they will be here for a longgg time.7. I have no idea why I'm numbering this.[edit: made some mistakes with previous post, hence is why I re-posted] Number 2. Stay here long enough and you'll start to understand what I mean. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
War Path 26 Posted March 16, 2014 wait we didnt see the use the search function reply lol alpha no shit we know that , There will always be some QQ in forums and this game is shitty but thats what ya get when its a public forum. im sick of the its alpha as much as im sick of the qq y'all need a time out imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted March 16, 2014 I was talking about the SA...which, I believe, is what we were discussing in the first place.Also, your last part is laughable. Complete with pretentiouss "so-much-experience"-bs. And I'm assuming your mother didn't buy you anything in your youth? ;)I was talking about SA too. And clearly you didn't read my whole post. I'm assuming you're a 14 year old child that had his mother buy him the game and his computer too? Is that why you put that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted March 16, 2014 <---- see that pic, that's me, I own more guns and shoot more rounds per year IRL then you will ever dream of. I do not miss, especially at a target only 75 yards away whom was not behind any cover whatsoever.Sucks that this is a video game right. Btw, your gun is so big, you're so cool man. I really wish I could shoot guns :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowball (DayZ) 115 Posted March 16, 2014 Number 2. Stay here long enough and you'll start to understand what I mean.I think I pretty much understand what you mean. And I can also agree with your view, up to a certain point. But to me, it's just bs. And both sides are to blame for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT111 23 Posted March 16, 2014 Just to let you know the bounding box with the ground/ terrain issue (causes shots to get blocked when prone) has been or is being addressed. A number of high profiler Youtubers mentioned it a while back, and I believe Dean had said in a livestream that they have fixed or are fixing it. As for still getting blocked shots when crouched and stood up....either desync, or you were behind cover slightly as well and bullets were then colliding with that models collision mesh. Also you may want to note the game mechanics differ massively to other shooters like BF4, here's to name a few:- Bullets don't come out of your face: It sounds stupid but Arma is one of the few shooters that I have played where bullets ACTUALLY come out the barrel of your gun. I.E. when your crouched behind cover, just because you can see over it, doesn't mean you can shoot over it. The barrel actually needs to be clear of walls (both horizontal and vertical) or any other objects for bullets to actually go any kind of distance. And don't say 'bullets don't come out your face in BF4'; because they do! Hence all the head glitching you get in the game....realistically they wouldn't be able to do that. - Bullets travel in the direction of your barrel: Yeh, where-ever it points is where the bullet goes. So instead of each round having a movement multiplier for each shot fired to create the effect of recoil, the weapon gets that multiplier instead. So the barrel goes up slightly, bullet actually travels where the barrel is pointing leading to quite a diverse spread in high recoil weapons when fired rapidly. So shooting rapidly in full auto, even when it looks like your holding the sights on your target, your bullets are going to spray and deviate quite far, especially over longer distances. - Stance, stamina and health affect accuracy: This is pretty much something that everyone knows anyway. Prone is most accurate, standing is least accurate, crouched is in between. All shooters have that and it's also quite pre-dominant in the Arma engine. Stamina and health (not to sure if health actually does in DayZ, but I imagine it would) also have an affect. If your injured or out of breathe, your weapons going to sway more making it harder to nail a shot. Also, holding your breathe is a thing! Holding right mouse button down holds the characters breathe and steadies the aim slightly for a few seconds. Mag dumping an M4 whilst holding right mouse button to hold the characters breathe does not work. First few shots will be accurate, but after a second or two, the character will stop holding their breathe, adding more muzzle sway and deviation. Your just stating the obvious here....my sights are attached to said barrel, if I waited long enough for my sights to reacquire said target then said bullet will shoot out of said barrel true to my aim.I was getting a bullet hitting the ground directly in front of me animation while standing and not near any cover or trees or anything.As for stance/stamina/health, I was standing, in the bright green on energy, hydration and health. I was not out of breath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlander007 249 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) <---- see that pic, that's me and I kill screaming naked people with my chainsaw IRL<---- see that pic, that's me, I own more guns and shoot more rounds per year IRL then you will ever dream of. I do not miss, especially at a target only 75 yards away whom was not behind any cover whatsoever.Ok, just because OP is a giant douchebag It doesn't make his point any less serious. You can't shoot downhill and that needs to be fixed asap Edited March 16, 2014 by Highlander007 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted March 16, 2014 <---- see that pic, that's me and I kill screaming naked people with my chainsaw IRLBAHHAHHAHAA. Lol. That movie was fucking funny when he chased a chick with a chainsaw naked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites