Demoth 366 Posted February 25, 2014 So my friend whined for me to come play with him today. First thing I see is guy b-lining everyone building that has a player cowering in it and shooting them, including me (I was a fresh spawn, he couldn't have seen me go into the building and hide in the room I was in). Nope, b-lines me and shoots me. Either ESP or that .pbo hack is still around. Either way, my friend convinced me to join his other server; I begrudgingly did. So I go in there, get a magnum, and immediately get into a gun fight with someone and prevail. I get their loot, all is good. I start taking fire, and run into another building. Now comes the fun part.... it was a team, and you can't hide from them because every building is currently see-through in 3PP with your fists up. WTF. A few more friends join, and basically all of Elektro is at a stand still because no one will leave their buildings because everyone is looking through walls, ready to shoot the first person foolish enough to leave the safety of their building. My friends were doing this too, and it really just killed my enjoyment. Alpher alpher, I know I know. But goddam, since it's EVERY building that can be glitched this way, going anywhere on a non-hardcore server is going to be insta-death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spinager 152 Posted February 25, 2014 okay.... Join a first person only server. You can avoid everything you just described in your OP. Nothing has changed from the mod, city firefight wise imo 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nainakai 42 Posted February 25, 2014 But the mod aint got that many people round the cities anymore! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demoth 366 Posted February 25, 2014 okay.... Join a first person only server. You can avoid everything you just described in your OP.Nothing has changed from the mod, city firefight wise imoRegardless, it needs to be fixed ASAP. Despite all the hate towards 3PP, it's still in the game and thus a legitimate feature (I believe 3PP should blur anything not in line of sight, honestly).Also there are not a lot of hardcore servers up, they're always full and the ones that aren't are laggy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herrjon 478 Posted February 25, 2014 Well, when you use 3PP in a firefight you're basically cheating already, but there's a lot with how the game handles structures that needs to be fixed. Could be a server side issue too, maybe test on other servers and submit a bug report? As far as no HC servers, you just need to look harder. Plus it sounds like you want more action anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demoth 366 Posted February 25, 2014 Well, when you use 3PP in a firefight you're basically cheating already, but there's a lot with how the game handles structures that needs to be fixed. Could be a server side issue too, maybe test on other servers and submit a bug report?As far as no HC servers, you just need to look harder. Plus it sounds like you want more action anyways.3PP isn't cheating if you're on a server that allows it, it just makes things lame with corner peeking.I get a lot of hate for not playing on hardcore servers (all the time), but I have issues with grass not rendering from a distance, and sounds not working right.I get very annoyed when I'm being stalked on hardcore servers and I wait down a hall, only to have someone sprint down and shoot me because the footsteps didn't register. (Or gunshots).Let's not devolve this into a 3PP vs 1PP, but simply that right now you ccan view glitch through all walls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herrjon 478 Posted February 25, 2014 I had 1/2 a sentence bashing 3PP, you devoted almost an entire post on it. Who doesn't want to argue about it again? In an attempt to make this post on topic, as I said, are you experiencing this on all servers or just that one/a couple? Have you submitted a bug report? As far as HC servers, that a legitimate concern (although I'm not sure if that's only for HC server or a general problem) so I'd say to submit a bug report for that as well and maybe play with your settings and test with a friend to see if you can fix it client side. Point is, if you want results in an alpher, bug reports are the way to go. Devs don't check the forums for feedback, and all creating a thread does is let people know of a new exploit to use and open yourself up for flak on how you play. Just my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chawktah 43 Posted February 25, 2014 It's not exactly better in HC. Anyways, they might see you, but they have to move to shoot you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demoth 366 Posted February 25, 2014 I had 1/2 a sentence bashing 3PP, you devoted almost an entire post on it. Who doesn't want to argue about it again?In an attempt to make this post on topic, as I said, are you experiencing this on all servers or just that one/a couple? Have you submitted a bug report?As far as HC servers, that a legitimate concern (although I'm not sure if that's only for HC server or a general problem) so I'd say to submit a bug report for that as well and maybe play with your settings and test with a friend to see if you can fix it client side.Point is, if you want results in an alpher, bug reports are the way to go. Devs don't check the forums for feedback, and all creating a thread does is let people know of a new exploit to use and open yourself up for flak on how you play.Just my 2 cents.The bug report is alredy up as it is a known issue. It's across all servers and like the poster above me said, you actually can do it on HC servers as well, just some buildings don't give you as much vision.I also wasn't blasting you, specifically about the 3PP vs 1PP debate despite quoting you. I made a thread a while back about why I don't play on Hardcore anymore simply because I had a discussion with a friend, and suddenly half the community jumped on me as though I had claimed everyone who plays on HC servers has a small penis and are pedophiles. The reaction to my thread didn't start and conversation, just a lot of trolling and flaming and it made me very sad.But like you said, since I confirmed looking through walls is doable in 1PP, I'll link everyone the ticket so it can be upvoted.Side note: I do like action in this game as long as my opponents are armed, but most people I know who are into the PVP know of all the wall glitches (from seeing through them to jumping through them). Everyone also takes this mentality "if you can't beat them, join them" and so now fights are ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites