Sidechat and broken bones

[DeadManDan 23]

Hi, I started dayZ at version (1.7.1.2). Currently in version (1.7.1.5): How are players using the sidechat? I've been trying to chat with players ever since I started this game but have only been able to use the group, vehicle, and direct chat which only appears to work within spitting distance(when I would rarely ever talk to other survivors as they could be hostiles) all the while I can read-in on other players chatting their asses off.

Like just today there were a couple of guys somewhere and one chimes in side chat:

1: "Party at Electro!"

2: "Cool I'll be right there"

1: "Bring Drinks"

2: "I got lots of whiskey, all empty though"

3: "We must have like 8 people here"

And so on. They kept chatting for a good half-hour. I wanted to ask for directions to electro :(

Anyways, I'm currently on my 12th attempt at life. I finally found a silenced projectile weapon (crossbow) but while crouch walking near a nonenterable house I get detected and attacked by a zombie that either came through the house wall or he detected me crouch walking and ran all the way around the far side of the house to attack me from behind. Had around 10k blood and after one hit I get a broken bone and can't walk/run/crouchwalk. I've been trying to get to chernogask but am still only half way there from my starting point which was quite a bit away.

I read that morphine is the only way to get rid of broken bones so do I keep crawling my way to the city to look for the hospital to get some morphine or would it be better to just suicide constantly till I'm somewhere near where my body is and hope the server didn't remove it as dead clutter? Or is there a different way of dealing with broken bones? Shouldn't I be able to like splint it with wood and bandages and just hobble along at half speed for a day or so?

I mean, I really dislike the idea of being forced to crawl several miles to a hospital that I have yet to find where I may or may not get shot by some camping wankers just as I find some morphine all due to a lucky hit from a zombie, which is apparently very common.

My experience thus far:

Attempt at Life 1: Spawned in a dark featureless hilly region. Running up the hills changed sky from night to dawn revealing an endless supply of featureless hilly regions in all directions, stopped to contemplate the beauty of it all -> Suicide.

Attempt at Life 2: Spawned at night-time on a beach. Noted the absence of a starting pistol in my inventory, which was advertised to me. Being paranoid that zombies would see my flashlight I kept turning it off when near one. One started to get too close so I stopped moving and turned off my flashlight so it wouldn't detect me. It did anyway. In desperation I had confused my crouch button with my standbutton while attempting to run away -> Zed Mob.

Attempt at Life 3: Made it to some train tracks near the beach and noticed another survivor flashlight farther down the tracks. Light shined at me as I shined it back. Light in the distance became erratic. Further zooming in revealed a survivor running towards me with Zed in tow. Proned at a nearby bush and turned off flashlight thinking they'd all run right by. Survivor and MOST of the zed ran right by. As the zed was close to me, I was too scared to turn on my flashlight or make noise moving while wondering why the zed didn't keep going for the other survivor. It found me and given my last experience -> Zed Inspired Suicide.

Attempt at Life 4: Attempted to sneak into a village. Was prone crawled right into a proned crawling zombie. Attempted to get up and run away but had already gained broken bones -> Zed Mob.

Attempt at Life 5: Successfully snuck into a house and found a can of sardines and flares. Was detected shortly after but escaped the village running down some traintracks with zed in tow. Noticed a survivor in the distance near a bridge shining their flashlight at me only for them to quickly ran in a perpendicular direction while turning their flashlight off. Noticed my blood level was constantly dropping. Hoped the wound would clot before the horde gets me -> Collapsed from blood loss + Zed Mob.

Attempt at Life 6: Found an abandoned factory area with no zed around. Found 3 survivors who never used their flashlights or responded to direct chat running around. Began carelessly searching the houses near the factory as no zed were spotted at either. Got ambushed by a zombie outside of a house I entered. Ran around and eventually into the woods noticing the zed weren't following. Struggled to get bandages working but only managed to keep dropping them. Finally discovered right click inventory options but was already at 2k blood and suffering shaking + fainting. Can of sardines I found did not restore blood -> Suicide.

Attempt at Life 7: Daytime!!! Made note of how easy it was to sneak by zed. Found a ghillie suit but could not wear as it was not implemented for my type of charactor (apparently it takes balls to wear any of the smelly used post-apocalypse clothing). Later, logged into a different server to find my flashlight had been replaced by a pistol as well as the addition of a hunting knife and blood bag. Stalked zombies on the outskirts of town away from other zombies and shot them dead. Used up all ammo. Found a hatchet. Experimented with axe murdering Zed. Became night-time, no flashlight. Snuck around until I spotted a flashlight in a town near a beach with a road leading inland. Stalked flashlight survivor. Survivor got spotted by zed and began running away into the mountains where flashlight went off (no player deaths reported). Lost trail. Spotted flashlight in mountains on opposite side of town. Lost trail heading inland. Came across a few houses. Began stalking and murdering zed. Got a broken bone from a zed hit, discovered by other nearby zed -> Zed Inspired Suicide.

Attempt at Life 8: Followed a road in-land up to a lone walled in comm tower. Found nothing ontop the comm tower. Discovered a hatchet, a tent, some grenades, and giant butthole loads of ammo at a ride-able but broken truck inside the walls. Experimented with the grenades. Noted zombies spawn inside and outside the walled area. Ventured down the hill eventually finding a crashed chopper. Snuck up to it and found an assault rifle. Got surprised by a zombie attacking me through the chopper metal frame. Used up all rifle ammo and began running as zombies kept coming. Escaped down a hill where last following zombie died(fall damage running down a hill?). Made it to a nearby factory but got detected by zed. Thought I could escape and camp out ontop the roof but then noted how Zed can climb ladders rather fast -> Zed Inspired Suicide.

Attempt at Life 9: Swam out to a lighthouse on a small island mostly surrounded by rocks. Had a nice view. Found another island nearby with a boat house and some zed. Got detected and attempted to escape via swimming away. Turned to see a zed attacking me while apparently walking on water (soo, biblical powers are extended to zombies?) -> Zed Inspired Suicide.

Attempt at Life 10: Snuck into a construction site near chernogorsk. Noticed was being stalked by a survivor with an axe. Crouch ran around the site into a stairwell. Hid under the stairs and waited. Saw survivor shadow head up the stairs. Snuck to the other side of a nearby wall and then back up the nearby hill, proned and waited for survivor to leave. Found two other survivor bodies near the center area of construction site. Looted them. Spotted two survivors crouch running into the construction site near the bodies. Snuck away. Headed into cherogorsk along the docks side. Got broken bones from a multiple zed encounter. Went to the center of a street junction tossed all flares and glowsticks into a circle while at the middle of the street. Drank all drinks and ate all food. Began firing pistol into the air. No zombies came(was daytime) -> Suicide.

Attempt at Life 11: -> Sprinted all the way to Chernogorsk with zombies in tow. Headed into a building with two exits. Took a wrong turn and ended up in a bathroom. Disconnected and reconnected to a different server. Searched for supplies. Headed upstairs. Stopped at a pile of food flares and soda. Heard what sounded like a pistol reload while gearing supplies -> Silencer Gunshot To The Back of the Head.

Attempt at Life 12: In progress...

And ya, it looks like I fail at life, but apparently my fails are just getting started.

[-=Grunt=- (DayZ) 0]

I broke my legs about 2 km outside Stary Sobor yesterday... I crawled all the way to Stary for like 30 minutes and when I got to the military medical tents, I got shot in the face.

[caterpillar38 1]

They removed sidechat and global chat, thats why you're not able to chat with the whole server at once. But, you can use direct channel in order to chat with those who are 1-80 meters from you.

I started a group a few days ago, you can join us if you need help.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18087

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theforgottendogs

Cheers,

Mike.

[DeadManDan 23]

I don't understand. If sidechat is removed how are players still chatting with sidechat?

[mofokk 6]

Sidechat and broken bones

sidechat is different on every server at the moment. some are kicking for using it. some have it disabled favouring direct chat, some servers provide a constant stream of chat. you obviously know how to change the chat channel so just experiment when you join a server. I do believe Rocket intends direct chat to be the only form of communication in game somewhere in the future.

the rest of your experiences are just new player syndrome m8. don't feel bad and don't be detered.

Some tips I would give.

Read the new player discussions on these forums.

play thru the arma tutorial. even just the basics so your comfortable in your own characters movement.

don't figh zeds in the open.

Regarding your problems with morphine. Make securing some your priority. zeds are buggy at times and will break your bones with a single fluke hit. I personally think we should start with a single morphine injector while in Alpha. breaking your bones walking thru a doorway a long way north on the map is possibly my most frustrating experience in game to date.

learn the locations of hospitals or be vigilant for morphine spawns. If i have none in my backpack I am basically playing avoidance untill i get some.

everything else you mentioned, or more specifically zed management will come to you with practice. enjoy your learning curve :)

[deepfried 95]

The broken bone / morphine thing has become an issue in this build, I have no doubt that it will change.

This is alpha testing, features get added, removed, tweaked etc.. for testing, sometimes it will be outright broken, to quote Rocket:

The build is fucked

Yes, we know. The build is always fucked. If it is not fucked, then I haven't pushed hard enough in this update. If I fuck a build in Beta then you can rage all you want, but if you rage now and tell me I burned your $30 I'm just going to roll my eyes and google for meme's. This is what hotfixes are for, I do the hotfixes until the build is where I wanted it to be. Then we test it. If we like it, we keep it, if not, we revert. That's how it has worked and that is why we are here where we are.

Side chat has been removed deliberately, see above about features being tweaked/removed. I have no doubt that some new mechanic will take its place to some degree, there is talk of radios. And yes on some servers side chat still works.... mystery to me too, either they are running an old mission file or its hacks.

[GHoffman 2]

We found out why side chat was still working when we had all the latest beta versions installed on our server. In the Server.cfg file there is the line called "requiredBuild = 93965". There are 2 forward slashes ("/") in front of it. These are not supposed to be there. Delete these 2 forward slashes and the server will start enforcing the Arma2 Beta version to be 93965 or above. Side chat will no longer be available on your server.

Ex: "// RequiredBuild = 93965" should be "RequiredBuild = 93965"

[clintmbaptiste@gmail.com 2]

We found out why side chat was still working when we had all the latest beta versions installed on our server. In the Server.cfg file there is the line called "requiredBuild = 93965". There are 2 forward slashes ("/") in front of it. These are not supposed to be there. Delete these 2 forward slashes and the server will start enforcing the Arma2 Beta version to be 93965 or above. Side chat will no longer be available on your server.

Ex: "// RequiredBuild = 93965" should be "RequiredBuild = 93965"

Even though Required build was commented out was the server still running the 93965 files?

So you could essentially have 93965 with side chat and have no problems or would it actually run 1.60 files?

[Techercizer 82]

Entertaining diary. Hope you get better at avoiding them Zs, OP.

Broken bones are being looked at, but free constant global side chat is gone for good.

[GHoffman 2]

We found out why side chat was still working when we had all the latest beta versions installed on our server. In the Server.cfg file there is the line called "requiredBuild = 93965". There are 2 forward slashes ("/") in front of it. These are not supposed to be there. Delete these 2 forward slashes and the server will start enforcing the Arma2 Beta version to be 93965 or above. Side chat will no longer be available on your server.

Ex: "// RequiredBuild = 93965" should be "RequiredBuild = 93965"

Even though Required build was commented out was the server still running the 93965 files?

So you could essentially have 93965 with side chat and have no problems or would it actually run 1.60 files?

Yes, the server was updated with the latest Arma 2 and DayZ beta files. We discovered that because requiredBuild was commented out, clients running older versions of the Arma2 Beta could connect. (A hacker came into our server. He was invisible and invulnerable to gunshots.) This problem was cleared up when I erased the 2 forward slashes and requiredBuild began enforcing clients to have the latest arma2 beta patch.

Edit: Also, certain people could use side chat in game while almost everyone else could not. That was the other clue for us. These people had older versions of Arma 2 installed.

[rickenbacker 190]

OP: Zombies can't see the flashlight, or chemlights. They CAN hear flares, and will investigate them if you toss one. The only danger with flashlights and chemlights is that other players will see them, and most of them will shoot you because they didn't get enough attention as children.

[clintmbaptiste@gmail.com 2]

We found out why side chat was still working when we had all the latest beta versions installed on our server. In the Server.cfg file there is the line called "requiredBuild = 93965". There are 2 forward slashes ("/") in front of it. These are not supposed to be there. Delete these 2 forward slashes and the server will start enforcing the Arma2 Beta version to be 93965 or above. Side chat will no longer be available on your server.

Ex: "// RequiredBuild = 93965" should be "RequiredBuild = 93965"

Even though Required build was commented out was the server still running the 93965 files?

So you could essentially have 93965 with side chat and have no problems or would it actually run 1.60 files?

Yes' date=' the server was updated with the latest Arma 2 and DayZ beta files. We discovered that because requiredBuild was commented out, clients running older versions of the Arma2 Beta could connect. (A hacker came into our server. He was invisible and invulnerable to gunshots.) This problem was cleared up when I erased the 2 forward slashes and requiredBuild began enforcing clients to have the latest arma2 beta patch.

Edit: Also, certain people could use side chat in game while almost everyone else could not. That was the other clue for us. These people had older versions of Arma 2 installed.

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Cool man, thanks for clearing that up. I was really worried about all the servers with different versions and what not.

[herd 69]

Yes please remove broken bones from zeds and ADD side chat on regular servers. Expert servers can do what they like

[schmotto 32]

I have noticed some people still being able to use sidechat on servers that don't have it.

Not sure if it's something to do with their version of the game or anything like that.

[DeadManDan 23]

We found out why side chat was still working when we had all the latest beta versions installed on our server. In the Server.cfg file there is the line called "requiredBuild = 93965". There are 2 forward slashes ("/") in front of it. These are not supposed to be there. Delete these 2 forward slashes and the server will start enforcing the Arma2 Beta version to be 93965 or above. Side chat will no longer be available on your server.

Ex: "// RequiredBuild = 93965" should be "RequiredBuild = 93965"

That's a pretty cool way of telling people how to re-enable sidechat on their servers :)

I feel now that I was overreacting about the broken bones. Though I Still wouldn't mind it being nerfed a little.

Of course I've only got more noob questions the longer I play' date=' such as:

Do tents, vehicles, and fencing stay on the server where you make them or do they travel with you to every server you visit? And what about if you die with a tent setup?

What ammo does a silenced mp5 use? (Because it's not mp5 ammo)

What clothes can a female survivor wear?

Is there difference between servers that have the tag: [EXPERT'] or [VETERAN] in their name?

How do you switch to third person mode? I can't find any such binds out of the hundred bindings in the key config menu.

Is there a quick ingame screenshot function?

How do you write notes on maps? I've seen some server maps are just full of (X) notes. Some begging for help, offering help, marking bases, random gibberish, marking a friendly survivor hangout (or huge bandit trap). Most of them were in the middle of cities or clustered on mountain tops.

I had more questions but forgot most of them while getting my ass beat by zombies after I had lost my crossbow.

It was still a major pain but I managed to crawl 2 damn miles to the nearest hospital to get some morphine while avoiding some guy asking, noone in particular, in direct chat, how to get his flashlight working while apparently surviving alone in a zombie infested inland city, during blackout night-time.

Immediately afterwards I found an alice pack, double my steel bolt ammo supply, and matches completing my hunting tools, so I was soon carrying around almost a dozen pieces of meat. I got overconfident and decided to go raid the NWAirField. Fucking scary place. Just when I think I'm alone on a low populated server there's either gunfire in the direction I came from getting gradually closer to me or like on one server I hear explosions and see someone lit the barracks on fire (turned out to be a flare). Then lots gunshots and like any paranoid fraidy-cat I'm immediately hiding in the shadows somewhere for several minutes. Never got to really do a clean raid of the barracks as everytime on everyserver there were either dead zed or chemlights inside. I guess I should consider myself lucky for not being spotted; Or stupid for still going inside.

Ended up dropping half my meat and bolts to carry around a MP5SD that can't fire mp5 ammo. Lost my beloved crossbow and all my steelbolts to a packing accident (I just don't know where they went, they weren't in my pack or on the ground). I've always imagined my survivor putting lip prints on the side of it and sleeping with it at night; now it's gone and I'm very sad.

This is the longest I've been alive. It says day four everytime I connect now and I've racked up over 130 zombie kills. That's enough to be in the top 10 on a some server player lists (I just hope hacker bandits arn't using that list as their hitlist). I know I must seem like a squirrel bragging about it's nut-size to a horse but I'm having a lot of fun surviving now.

Also, I'm being stalked by a misquito that follows me from server to server. :(