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Dual Wielding

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What, I assumed this would be about pistols again... two shotguns? Two sawn off shotguns? 12 gauge? Just try that in real life and report back to us...

Firing four shots all at once maybe, a strong enough person I have no doubt could fire a 12 gauge with one arm.

I just looked on youtube and I found people dual wielding full pump action shotguns and serbu shortys.

I don't have a doubt in my mind that realistically they would be hard to aim on the move, they should have huge recoil when moving and big idle sway.

Trying to fire two barrels at the same time should be possible with a select fire button, but give you an arm injury.

My social studies teachers friend once hip fired both barrels and dislocated his shoulder.

However dual wielding is still hugely impractical and I wouldn't like to see it this early in the game when we still don't have things like cars and camps.

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^Watch the above and tell me again about limbs flying off everywhere.. This is just a single example.



^ This is what happens when you fuck up, and i would LOVE to see some dude do that because he is trying to multitask with his other hand, or maybe he is holding two weapons (one is for his mate and his own shotty in the other hand for carry), and he needs to make the quick shot.

I want to emphasize again how i DO NOT BELIEVE that everyone in DayZ are trained soldiers, and so we need to be able to pull off some shit that might not make sense to one.

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i wonder if they will implement amputation. would be interesting in firefights, gun less stable, longer reloads... more animations ...

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As long as they make it realistic; complete inability to aim and a snowball's chance in hell of hitting what you intended, then I'm all for it.

 

I'll stick with my one gun and actually hitting what I aim at.

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Dual pistols would be nice, but accuary needs be inferior to one pistol.
But i think dual shotguns would be stupid (maybe you can at real-life, but at game you need think little about balance)
 

With revolvers you would get western feel :D

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-snip-

 

What you have failed to observe in these vidoes is that the first is SHOULDERING the weapon, while the second is attempting to fire the shotgun with his arm extended. There's simply too much force in the recoil to do so safely or accurately. Holding two shotguns would be totally fucking pointless because you wouldn't be able to pump the next round into the chamber. You'd have two shots, then you'd have to put one gun down, pump it, put that gun down, pick the other one up, then pump it, then shoulder both weapons again. Totally impractical. You'd be better off shooting all the rounds of a single gun, then switching weapons instead of reloading. That is the most accurate and efficient way to use two guns. This is not 007 Goldeneye. We are not Revy two Hands. Dual wielding guns is a waste of development time and does not belong in this game.

 

Absolutely not. 

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So, seeing the WIP photos of the new shotguns, i got to thinking.

 

How do people feel about dual wielding in the game? Think two sawed off shotguns, one in each hand! Maybe even let one hand/gun follow your headview, allowing you to practically shoot in two directions at once, i.e shooting behind you while running, or left/right coverfire.

Dual wielding shotguns would be ridiculous as already stated. The problem with dual wielding pistols is the game would essentially have to center aim both of the pistols for you and in doing so remove the skill required in aiming a single pistol.

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Certainly let's have dual wielding, and make it realistic. (shit)

 

You've got to remember that Arma is a military simulator at its roots, and thus what we have available currently is(mostly) the actions of a trained soldier.

 

But not all, if any at all of the DayZ survivors are soldiers. 

 

So of course you should be able to do anything you'd think to do in real life with a gun. Dual wield? Sure, do it, waste your ammo.

Hold your gun sideways while cradling your testicles with the other hand? Sure do it, and take a hit to your accuracy. 

 

Shoot out car windows at high speed. Shooting from boats and helicopters. Throwing yourself out any window available.

Sure, give us the option!

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Certainly let's have dual wielding, and make it realistic. (shit)

 

You've got to remember that Arma is a military simulator at its roots, and thus what we have available currently is(mostly) the actions of a trained soldier.

 

But not all, if any at all of the DayZ survivors are soldiers. 

 

So of course you should be able to do anything you'd think to do in real life with a gun. Dual wield? Sure, do it, waste your ammo.

Hold your gun sideways while cradling your testicles with the other hand? Sure do it, and take a hit to your accuracy. 

 

Shoot out car windows at high speed. Shooting from boats and helicopters. Throwing yourself out any window available.

Sure, give us the option!

Humor aside, i am actually all for that.. i mean, grabbing your crotch might be a little excessive, i'm sure you get the point.

But as previously stated, I guess I see the technical difficulties of implementing a lot of those things and after all they are not even close to a necessity, which is why i didn't put this in the suggestion forum originally.

I started out just imagining that desperate moment where you just throw everything you've got at an enemy, which granted might be a little overboard, in retrospect.

But this topic has taught me that DayZ IMHO needs some bad choices in general, I mean the must fun people are having ATM are with rotten fruit and disinfectant, which has nothing to do with proper surviving, but never really bothered anyone.

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