Should Gillie suits be a craft-able item only?

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Well, sorry that reality doesn't sit well with you

 

Reality sits fine with me from about 7AM until 9PM. After that, I would like to partake in a little fiction, if you don't mind too awfully much mate. Dean is not attempting to recreate reality with DayZ. If he were, the first three features he better implement are planting food, human sex and animal sex because that's what people would be doing in the real world in this situation: planting crops, fucking each other, and breeding animals, because that's how you really survive when shit hits the fan hard. Why would people in reality even do what we're doing? You would dig trenches, build fences and walls, and hunker down. You wouldn't go out running for 1,200 goddamn kilometers every day in the hopes of bringing home a rusty can of Tuna which is for some inexplicable reason stored in a Sardine can.

 

Unless you want to play Cattle Rancher 2013 and then maybe when the sun goes down switch over to Knock up the Rancher's Wife for a few hours, then I suggest you concede that maybe we're not working with reality here, but rather a very heavily stylized and fictional version of it in which comically simple survival mechanics are employed to drive people together and force them into tense, often violent confrontations.

 

but that's the reason store bought ones are shit and ghillies always make their own.

 

Right. We agreed on that. But, as I explained, the ghillie suits we find will not be "store bought," but rather ones used by local snipers that were in the area combating the infected and early bandits, so they would be appropriate for Chernaus ground cover and foliage. You said it yourself dude, ghillies always make their own so where would store bought ghillies even come from in the first place? The snipers that were here before would have made their own, as snipers always do according to your surely infallible knowledge on the subject.

 

I guess I just don't even understand what your argument is. Nothing is store bought anymore. If there were ever WAL*MARTs in Chernarus, I'm sure they're not operating at the moment. All we have is what we find, and I don't see any reason why found ghillie suits wouldn't be appropriate for the area.

 

 

The idea of crafting our own ghillie suits is a great one and it would be fun, but "crafted only," just seems unnecessary. It smells like some sort of thinly veiled attempt to limit people's access to the item, even though in reality if we could just duct tape foliage to our clothes than everyone in the goddamn game will be running around in a perfectly crafted ghillie suit all the time at which point they're value kind of diminishes relative to your opponents.

 

Having them be loot works fine, because then you can make them as rare as you want based on spawn rates, etc.

 

Letting people just stick pine boughs down their pants and duct tape fern fronds to their ballcaps, while perhaps realistic, isn't exactly a compelling game mechanic.

Edited January 8, 2014 by ZedsDeadBaby

[weparo 613]

Local snipers? As much as I apreciate your long and elaborate answer, you don't seem to read my posts. A "local" sniper has either 50 different ghillie suits or limits himself to a couple spots per mile.

 

As for why I support crafting only : It is, as you said, very easy to craft. A base cloth (a flight suit for instance), some glue/duct tape and local foliage. Done. If you make ghillie suits a rare in game item, people will expect it to be extremly efficient and as such it will be overpowered. Also, "rare" weapons and items will always be duped and be available. It could be a good trap for hackers though.

 

 

 

Oh, but please stop the cussing and read through other peoples posts before answering to them

[Propulsion_Joe 97]

They shouldn't be in the game.

[kermo50 31]

They shouldn't be in the game.

I believe they are pretty much confirmed by someone searching through the games files, can't seem to find that thread at the moment. If anyone could link it for me that would be appreciated.

[Crakka 44]

imo it should be a rare military spawn, but also craftable using the local vegetation

 

I'd imagine making one from scratch would require netting, string of some sort, and the vegetation (barebones). Sewing really wouldn't be necessary. You could just put branches with leaves on them onto the netting and tie it with string

 

 

Also there should be penalties for wearing ghillie suits, such as overheating

uh no

[Death_Dealer 3155]

uh no

 

It can get well over 100 degrees (F) in ghillie suits

 

And not to mention how much weight it puts on you

[kermo50 31]

Penalties seem like a good idea to me too, as long as they are realistic or at least plausible...

[GarethAUS 20]

If they have to be put in the game then I think this is a great way to do it, but they should be craft-able in smaller pieces too, as in you should be able to create say a head set, and sets for both your torso and legs independently, this way people can even further customize their characters.