Zombies should have MUCH more HP than humans

[The Mad Titan 29]

A quick linguistics lesson for everyone before adding something worthwhile:

Words become words when people use them. They are assigned whatever meaning people give them, or whatever meaning they are interpreted to have. Dictionaries don't set the standards, they attempt to record them. The word "zombie" originally comes from Africa, and later Haiti, and was very different than what is considered a zombie now:

 

 

The word arrived in modern pop culture through George Romero. Not Night of the Living Dead, but the sequel-- Dawn of the Dead. The Night of the Living Dead zombies were always referred to as ghouls.

This means that if you want to describe what you consider zombies by their original name, you should be calling them ghouls. If you accept that common usage evolves our language (it does), then "the Infected" can also be called zombies interchangeably. 28 Days was a science fiction take on the zombie genre, instead of the more popular religious/magical/unexplained phenomena origins that had come before, and has been considered by virtually everyone who has seen it to be a zombie movie, including the creators.

Now that we're done with that argument, the zombies in this game are infected living humans. So they wouldn't have more health, they would actually probably have less, depending on how badly the disease affects the body in the transition process. They also don't feel pain. This is reflected in that they don't take shock value damage and don't drop unconscious.

Also it's a real pain in the ass to kill zombies with a non-axe melee weapon right now anyway. That really doesn't need to be harder. Zombie health is fine as it is, and everything will be more challenging once zombie physics and numbers are added in.

 

Danny Boyle (creator of 28 Days Later) says, "I don’t like zombie movies. I never did. We took a genre and fucked with it." Danny wanted to break all the rules and still make you think that you're watching a Zombie movie, but you weren't. African definition is a dead person who is revived by a sorcerer... which is undead.  Haitian version is an animated corpse raised by magical means...undead. All versions of Zombies are undead.  Don't let Danny Boyle fool you, he doesn't like Zombies at all and has skewed the minds of Zombie fans and that's exactly what he intended to do, he even admits that.

Edited January 7, 2014 by The Mad Titan

[The Mad Titan 29]

I vote for Zombies, I would like to see more grotesque models for npcs and different gameplay mechanics that would be based off of them being Zombies. I would like to see, whether they are alive or undead, the easiest way to kill them be that you attack the head. If they took more damage to non-headshots then lore wise it could fit in with both Zombies or just infected.

[Zollicoffer 200]

Danny Boyle (creator of 28 Days Later) says, "I don’t like zombie movies. I never did. We took a genre and fucked with it."

 

Okay, that doesn't make it not a zombie movie. Again, common usage. It's far from the only zombie movie with infected living instead of undead. And if you want to be picky, then by your argument you still have to call them ghouls, unless they are being controlled by a sorcerer and die when they eat salt. We're calling them zombies, everyone is calling them zombies, forget about semantics.

 

I vote for Zombies, I would like to see more grotesque models for npcs and different gameplay mechanics that would be based off of them being Zombies. I would like to see, whether they are alive or undead, the easiest way to kill them be that you attack the head. If they took more damage to non-headshots then lore wise it could fit in with both Zombies or just infected.

 

Slow zombies would be no fun and no challenge. They wouldn't be intimidating at all. The easiest way to kill them is already attacking the head. Go play the game.

[Crakka 44]

but zombies are humans? uhbadur

[The Mad Titan 29]

Okay, that doesn't make it not a zombie movie. Again, common usage. It's far from the only zombie movie with infected living instead of undead. And if you want to be picky, then by your argument you still have to call them ghouls, unless they are being controlled by a sorcerer and die when they eat salt. We're calling them zombies, everyone is calling them zombies, forget about semantics.

 

 

Slow zombies would be no fun and no challenge. They wouldn't be intimidating at all. The easiest way to kill them is already attacking the head. Go play the game.

 

You're not getting it and you don't need to be rude. There are many different versions of Zombies and they are all undead. You can call anything you want Zombie but the correct use of the word is referring to the undead.

 

I know what a ghoul is. They both follow almost exactly the same rules, undead and feed on human flesh. Although, the Ghoul isn't always something that was human, in many cases its a demon. Zombie is a human that dies and rises again undead.

 

I never said anything about slow moving, slow moving isn't necessarily a Zombie trait e.g. Return of the Living Dead. Since there is something supernatural going on they can move fast.

 

I do play the game and the easiest way to kill a Zombie is shooting it once in the foot, not the head. Don't be silly just to offend me.

 

28 Days Later was intended to be a slap in the face to hardcore Zombie fans.

[Zollicoffer 200]

There is no correct use of the word, that's what I'm trying to say. My gosh jeez loueez good golly darn it.

[The Mad Titan 29]

I believe that there are many versions of Zombie, but they all share one common trait and that is undead human. Gameplay wise undead can have many more fun gameplay mechanics and infected are very limited. There isn't anything you can do with the Infected aspect that you can't do with Zombie, but there are many things you can do with a Zombie that doesn't fit in with being Infected. In the end this is a game and its in the devs best interest to do what makes a better game. 

Edited January 7, 2014 by The Mad Titan

[Zollicoffer 200]

No, you're wrong. So many movies/books/comics use infected people it's amazing you're even suggesting that those aren't zombies. I refuse to take part in this any longer, and am leaving this thread forever. Good day sir!

[Death_Dealer 3155]

I say they NEED to change this silly idea of 28 days later Infected. Its not anywhere as scary, and a lot of great gameplay changes can be made if they are Zombies. There isn't a reason to make them sick humans, its silly.

 

You kidding me? What's more scary: A. a rotting zombie slowly stumbling towards you while moaning, ready to "eat your brains" or B. a horribly infected person running full speed at you ready to use brutal force and kill you

 

Also regarding undead zombies...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNe99a_aAMc

 

1:20

[The Mad Titan 29]

No, you're wrong. So many movies/books/comics use infected people it's amazing you're even suggesting that those aren't zombies. I refuse to take part in this any longer, and am leaving this thread forever. Good day sir!

 

And you still provide no argument, Saying, "no it isn't" and "yes it is" isn't arguing or debating. I am totally prepared for you to actually bring up specific movies, book, or comics. I don't think you'd bring up something I'm not aware of.

 

There are dictionary definitions to words, if you use the word otherwise then you are incorrect. Its that simple.

 

I do understand that it is hard for some people to not get mad on the internet when someone tries to correct them or provide a different opinion. Atleast you're willing to state your opinion.

Edited January 9, 2014 by The Mad Titan

[d4wn 23]

These "zombies" are humans ....so why should they have more health than us ? they may feel less pain but a hatchet to the head is a hatchet to the head ....and that's death my friend for us and "zombies"

"zombies" are not human! and sure they should have more health or smth similar, because they are pain resistant, just look how they use to walk - broken lag? dont care!

i think that a hit in the stomach/arm/leg should not stop/kill them just heart/head shots should kill them

[The Mad Titan 29]

You kidding me? What's more scary: A. a rotting zombie slowly stumbling towards you while moaning, ready to "eat your brains" or B. a horribly infected person running full speed at you ready to use brutal force and kill you

 

Also regarding undead zombies...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNe99a_aAMc

 

1:20

 

 

Neil Derasse Tyson is the fucking man!!!

 

Yes I know that Zombies are not possible. Rage virus is unreal as well.

 

I think that if everyone that died became a Zombie, then there is no hope. That is whats scary.

Rage Virus, well just like in 28 Days Later, easily contained and quarantined. Then just wait a month, they starve to death, its all over. Only effects a small area, not scary. 

Edited January 7, 2014 by The Mad Titan

[The Mad Titan 29]

"zombies" are not human! and sure they should have more health or smth similar, because they are pain resistant, just look how they use to walk - broken lag? dont care!

i think that a hit in the stomach/arm/leg should not stop/kill them just heart/head shots should kill them

 

 

I totally agree!