TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) First, i'm starting this topic because i'm just constantly seeing topics and posts about KoS and Bandits. If you don't know the definition of Bandit/Banditry, you shouldn't be playing DayZ, it's a wide scale Survival Simulator and WILL always have bandits in it. Banditry(Bandits)An actual bandit in DayZ who knows the meaning of Banditry and actually does a good job of being one, knows that not always Bandits KoS. (Constant KoS is the act of selfishness, evilness, being a scumbag or generally bored). Definition of Banditry: ban·dit (bndt)1. A robber, especially one who robs at gunpoint.2. An outlaw; a gangster.3. One who cheats or exploits others.4. Slang A hostile aircraft, especially a fighter aircraft. Idiom: make out like a bandit SlangTo be highly successful in a given enterprise. So, someone who comes to the coast, breaks your legs and force feeds you Disinfectant Spray is being a Bandit, they are exploiting you and a forcing you do do things under there power of having weapons or over the control of you with handcuffs. People who handcuff you and/or rob you is being a bandit. If they're good at what they're doing, they are also considered a Bandit, e.g: sales of goods - you are making out like a bandit. ScumbagsThe act of selfishness, being evil towards another, exploiting a broken system to gain advantage over others, meaning deliberate offense to another person to harm or hurt them. Definition of a Scumbag: scum·bag (skmbg)Slang A person regarded as despicable. (deserving hatred and contempt.) Someone who is purposely causing offense to another player or ruining their experience by exploiting unnatural features of a system is being a scumbag/cheater. Being selfish over items or abusing it is being a scumbag. Being evil towards someone can sort of be classed as Banditry if used in the right way. Edited December 31, 2013 by TheCalyx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegitOldSchool 261 Posted December 31, 2013 As I once said, the real difference between a scumbag and a real bandit is about 300 meters. Scumbags are cowards and will snipe you so they don't have to take the chance to interact with you. A real bandit will won't be afraid to hold you up in a proper manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 As I once said, the real difference between a scumbag and a real bandit is about 300 meters. Scumbags are cowards and will snipe you so they don't have to take the chance to interact with you. A real bandit will won't be afraid to hold you up in a proper manner.That's exactly what i just defined to people who don't understand the role of being a Bandit :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZedsDeadBaby 2287 Posted December 31, 2013 Very interesting. Why should I or anyone give half a shit? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZedsDeadBaby 2287 Posted December 31, 2013 As I once said, the real difference between a scumbag and a real bandit is about 300 meters. Scumbags are cowards and will snipe you so they don't have to take the chance to interact with you. A real bandit will won't be afraid to hold you up in a proper manner. So basically scumbags are smarter and better shots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted December 31, 2013 I completely agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 Very interesting. Why should I or anyone give half a shit?That's your own opinion, you obviously gave shit to come here and post, trying to start arguments. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaygoon 240 Posted December 31, 2013 Exploiting a broken system? Pvp is broken in any game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Bogan 350 Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Interesting definitions, although i must say people these play style's are just as important and people who are hero's of friendlies. You need a balance of good and bad within dayz ;) But i can assure you it's much harder playing certain roles... Edited December 31, 2013 by Aussie Bogan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 Exploiting a broken system? Pvp is broken in any game?If you didn't understand where i came from there, it's the combat logging,server hopping and ghosting that people are exploiting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Publik 404 Posted December 31, 2013 As I once said, the real difference between a scumbag and a real bandit is about 300 meters. Scumbags are cowards and will snipe you so they don't have to take the chance to interact with you. A real bandit will won't be afraid to hold you up in a proper manner.I'd say it's the other way around. Scumbags find newspawns and force feed them rotten fruit and detergent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaygoon 240 Posted December 31, 2013 Interesting definitions, although i must say people that play this style are just as important and people who are hero's of friendlies. You need a balance of good and bad within dayz ;) But i can assure you it's much harder playing certain roles...I would give you my beans but i gave out enuff today already lolz Without Zero's we wouldnt have Hero's, without both all we have are Nero's :p 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 I'd say it's the other way around. Scumbags find newspawns and force feed them rotten fruit and detergent.That's a Bandit, you have no power over what they can do seeing as you have no weapons or items. I can understand where you are coming from seeing as it's annoying but that's how it is, Scumbags sit watching a spawn point killing someone every time they connect to a server Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Publik 404 Posted December 31, 2013 That's a Bandit, you have no power over what they can do seeing as you have no weapons or items. I can understand where you are coming from seeing as it's annoying but that's how it is, Scumbags sit watching a spawn point killing someone every time they connect to a serverI'unno.... Picking on new players is kind of scummy. I'd expect my bandits to kill me for my stuff, not handcuff me so they can have torture material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZedsDeadBaby 2287 Posted December 31, 2013 Scumbags sit watching a spawn point killing someone every time they connect to a server That's literally impossible to do. People who suggest this is possible drive me absolutely insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 I'unno.... Picking on new players is kind of scummy. I'd expect my bandits to kill me for my stuff, not handcuff me so they can have torture material.Banditry can happen both ways, say you are in Zelengorsk, bandits see you walking up the street with your friends and you are unarmed but have the possibility of food and drinks that they need or want, they can hold you up, rob you and walk away or rob you and feed you disinfectant spray, rotten foods or steal your blood. Either one is banditry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 That's literally impossible to do. People who suggest this is possible drive me absolutely insane.It's very possible to do, "Skyrim Mountain" has a spawn point just infront of it, and i have been killed from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaygoon 240 Posted December 31, 2013 Woot im a scumbag :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Propulsion_Joe 97 Posted December 31, 2013 So then how would you classify someone who wins people's trust to take them to a certain area under false pretenses only to murder them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 Woot im a scumbag :DNot going to judge you on it if that's how you like to play, i'm not moaning about the presence of scumbags and bandits in dayz, just that people don't understand what they mean and call people by invalid titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZedsDeadBaby 2287 Posted December 31, 2013 It's very possible to do, "Skyrim Mountain" has a spawn point just infront of it, and i have been killed from it. Yes, but then you don't just spawn there again. So you can't kill someone "every time" they connect to a server. And on a single server camping one spawn point is the most inefficient bullshit ever. You could sit there for hours watching a spawn point and never catch anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 So then how would you classify someone who wins people's trust to take them to a certain area under false pretenses only to murder them?Sly ass Bandit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combatcomm1 234 Posted December 31, 2013 This is exactly why we need your characters life to mean more than just your gear. Time survived stats, learned skills, beards etc. If losing your gear is the only thing that sucks about dieing in the game then why the hell would anyone let someone hold them up?? If a bandit takes all or most of your good gear then isn't it pretty much the same as if they had shot you in the first place? If I have a group of 7 bandits holding me up and I am risking, dieing, losing my current time survived stat, beard or whatever, then yah, I am probably going to comply because my gear is not everything. But as it stands right now, beyond just wanting to see what transpires during a hold up, there is little difference between getting your gear stolen and dieing. Maybe if you're super inland you are losing your position but that's it really. I guess until your life means more than just your gear I will personally not be taken alive. I'll take every last one of them that I can down. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCalyx 78 Posted December 31, 2013 Yes, but then you don't just spawn there again. So you can't kill someone "every time" they connect to a server. And on a single server camping one spawn point is the most inefficient bullshit ever. You could sit there for hours watching a spawn point and never catch anyone.Welcome to DayZ where many hours are wasted killing new spawns from hills and mountains & it's not just one person that spawns there, many other people do and people that pass where the person on the mountain also get killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaygoon 240 Posted December 31, 2013 Not going to judge you on it if that's how you like to play, i'm not moaning about the presence of scumbags and bandits in dayz, just that people don't understand what they mean and call people by invalid titles. I dont mind being a scumbag :)Scumbaggery is what i like and is what makes me smile every morning :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites