Ducard 11 Posted December 21, 2013 I can't criticize the current loot system for the weapons and call it unrealistic because let's be honest if you live in a city where everyone is dead for sure a military camp or a police station will have automatic rifles and pistols, but in my honest opinion those should be toned down i run into an M4 every time i go to an airport\military camp not to mention the amount of hand pistols you see in firestations and other buildings. if i can get an automatic rifle 10-15 mins after i die then i wont fear camping spawn areas or death matching with them because i don't care if i lose them. I would love to see less of those weapons and more of the common weapons that people would usually keep at home (pump actions, hunting rifles, pistols), you also should be able to handle weapons better the longer you survive and use them because i am sure regular people aren't all weapon experts that can fire automatic rifles as good as it is in the game atm(fuck you could even fire .50 cals in the mod which could easily dislocate your arm if used incorrectly). Some of my suggestions may sound stupid to you but i personally find it game ruining when the main purpose of the game become running to airfields getting a rifle and deathmatching with other players rather than surviving the apocalypse but that at the end of the day is just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted December 21, 2013 The only reason the m4 is so common is because it and the Mosin are literally the only rifles in the game. They did that to make a template for the attachment system so creating other weapon assets would be simple and streamlined. Also, you seem to be forgetting that the goal is to have at least a couple thousand zombies on the map... #Alpher 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wookieenoob 191 Posted December 21, 2013 regarding M4's remember they're currently a placeholder for EVERY OTHER GUN no matter how bad that gun may be so some of those m4's could be replaced with crossbows, 22 rifles, other pistols, other rifles, non-lethal weapons etc. also weapons don't seem to degrade at the moment and i'm sure they will in future. this means that you'll <eventually> see random weapons spawning in these places, many of them badly damaged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ducard 11 Posted December 21, 2013 True true true but they will probably be replaced by other semi\auto rifles my point was to make those actually rare and replace them with regular weapons that people could keep at home in real life. Think of it that way, imagine an apocalypse happening where you live and think of the chances you're gonna get such a good weapon then think at how difficult it will be for you to fire them let alone running in your town firefighting with people and shooting at ridiculously long distances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted December 21, 2013 Not likely. We've already seen screen shots of the Mauser, the crossbow, hunting rifle, along with many other civilian weaponry. Making items rare is simply a matter of editing the loot tables. Also, I don't see why everyone thinks it takes a rocket scientist to shoot a gun. They're really easy to use. I've taught a 7 year old girl to shoot bulls-eyes consistently, within the span of about 30 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke.kta@gmail.com 17 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) While I do recognize that there are currently only 3 weapons in the game (not including the .357 which no one seems to have even found yet), the abundance of M4s is a little excessive. I realize that it's alpha, but even when more weapons are implemented I hope that every military loot location and fire station doesn't have a weapon in it. Acquiring a weapon should feel like a privilege, not an expectation. Also, I don't see why everyone thinks it takes a rocket scientist to shoot a gun. They're really easy to use. I've taught a 7 year old girl to shoot bulls-eyes consistently, within the span of about 30 minutes. Sounds like a prodigy. Edited December 21, 2013 by Panic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ducard 11 Posted December 21, 2013 While I do recognize that there are currently only 3 weapons in the game (not including the .357 which no one seems to have even found yet), the abundance of M4s is a little excessive. I realize that it's alpha, but even when more weapons are implemented I hope that every military loot location and fire station doesn't have a weapon in it. Acquiring a weapon should feel like a privilege, not an expectation. Sounds like a prodigy. Spot on. And i am not even gonna bother to reply on the 7 years old girl comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CREDiBLE 42 Posted December 21, 2013 Also, I don't see why everyone thinks it takes a rocket scientist to shoot a gun. They're really easy to use. I've taught a 7 year old girl to shoot bulls-eyes consistently, within the span of about 30 minutes.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted December 21, 2013 Well, I used to work at a gun range. What's better, let some girl's mom give her a pathetic lesson and have the girl shooting the ground and possibly other people at the range, or teach her to shoot safely and properly? It was just a job anyway. Honestly the gun situation in this country is totally out of hand. I hate it. Cartels use our guns to massacre civilians in the streets. We export guns all around the world which end up in the hands of violent criminals. Hoorayyy Democracy. <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luke.kta@gmail.com 17 Posted December 21, 2013 Well, I used to work at a gun range. What's better, let some girl's mom give her a pathetic lesson and have the girl shooting the ground and possibly other people at the range, or teach her to shoot safely and properly? It was just a job anyway. Honestly the gun situation in this country is totally out of hand. I hate it. Cartels use our guns to massacre civilians in the streets. We export guns all around the world which end up in the hands of violent criminals. Hoorayyy Democracy. <_< There's much I'd like to say about this post, but I'll spare the forums the extraneousness of an off-topic political debate, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites