Global bans not working as intended, and letting down the BIS ethos.

[thejoshknight 7]

What your saying has been confirmed by the developer as being literally impossible.

Listen. You may be good at a game on the computer, but that doesn't mean you use any logic whatsoever.

Logically, there are 2 things that could be possible here. Think about which one is more likely.

A. The developer of this mod has lied on multiple occasions in saying that you can't be banned for picking up hacked weapons, and he has some agenda against certian people. He is secretly directing the battleye people to ban said people who he has an agenda against. Fuck, might as well call it a conspiracy. He made this game just to ban kids, and then here them rage about it.

B. Your friend is a liar. He hacked. He got what he deserved.

Let's be honest, what would any normal person think is true. 99.9% of the time, they will think option B is what's going on here.

And as a last point, this is the internet. There is no honor, or duty, or any of that bullshit. That's for real soldiers, many of whom actually play this mod. /salute

[7-75 callaghan 43]

Update - Battleye tech support are looking into his case as they have detected something unusual, they can see he didn't hack, he doesn't even know how to go about doing such things. This issue may well have affected other players.

The general responses on this thread make it clear that there is a massive divide between the moralities and mentalities of the DayZ, and ArmA proper communities.

As for the mindless comments on the internet inherently lacking honour, or that honour is 'bullshit', speak for yourselves, it reflects very poorly on you and I will have nothing to do with such mentalities.

Callaghan signing out.

[griffinz 2816]

because a post on the forums is always the 100% truth

Maybe not from one of you DayZ kiddies sure. But we are community veterans. There is a marked difference. At the very least' date=' I expect a DayZ team member to hear him out, there was clearly a flaw in the first setup that detected hackers.

[/quote']

I'm an Arma community veteran, and I have 2 things to say to you and your friend:

1. A veteran should know when something is wrong when the item is invisible. It has been a long-known fact here in the world of DayZ that invisible items = hacked = ban if use.

2. You or your friend should have read the countless posts from the dev team stating that global bans are issued by BattleEye, not BiS. It is your responsibility to contact BattleEye and present your case.

Both of these issues could have been solved with a search of the forums. Frankly I am disappointed that you come here and belittle the DayZ community, when you could have easily learned about these circumstances.

[jayarr916 15]

You sound like a complete douche and I don't think you represent anything but your own personal interests so you can stop acting like you speak for "the community."

You also sound like a complete douche. You're also very ignorant. Your response is invalid and you should probably hop off the forums and go play the game.

I'm glad you got the help you needed Callaghan.

[enigma (DayZ) 0]

What is someone who belongs to a realism unit doing playing on a regular server?

Then I heard a friend from my realism unit

try joining a regular server that uses weapon mods and see for yourself.

[7-75 callaghan 43]

What is someone who belongs to a realism unit doing playing on a regular server?

Then I heard a friend from my realism unit

try joining a regular server that uses weapon mods and see for yourself.

I perhaps should have been more specific. By 'regular server' I meant a non-DayZ server. i.e. a realism server with weapon mods. Not a 'regular mode' aka easy-mode server. DayZ servers, as far as I know, do not allow weapon mods.

[srvrsyde 9]

because a post on the forums is always the 100% truth

Maybe not from one of you DayZ kiddies sure. But we are community veterans. There is a marked difference. At the very least' date=' I expect a DayZ team member to hear him out, there was clearly a flaw in the first setup that detected hackers.

[/quote']

uhg. i was on your side till your arrogant and self righteous head disappeared up your ass. you claim honour and valour yet you act like a tool online. i hope you and your band of circlejerks stay banned, less asshole in DZ makes for better gameplay

[7-75 callaghan 43]

because a post on the forums is always the 100% truth

Maybe not from one of you DayZ kiddies sure. But we are community veterans. There is a marked difference. At the very least' date=' I expect a DayZ team member to hear him out, there was clearly a flaw in the first setup that detected hackers.

[/quote']

uhg. i was on your side till your arrogant and self righteous head disappeared up your ass. you claim honour and valour yet you act like a tool online. i hope you and your band of circlejerks stay banned, less asshole in DZ makes for better gameplay

I'm sorry that you are unable to understand why i'm doing what I can to draw a line between certain playing styles and attitudes and my own, but really that you turn to personal and childish insults just because I state my opinion in a somewhat reactionary, in your words 'arrogant' way, doesn't really do your argument any help. Really, you don't want guys like me banned, because we form teams, do not murder, exploit, hack or cheat, and do what we can to balance out the prevalence of selfish playing styles. There is something about internet anonimity that brings out the worst in people, so I am sure you aren't this unpleasant in real life. I stand by my point, there is a marked difference between community veterans and your 'average' DayZ player, anyone who has been around a while (i.e. from BEFORE ArmA 2) can see that, whether they voice that opinion is another matter.

Back on point -

From the banned player:

'so im NOT banned by BattlEye. HA! see im not a hacker!

still i wonder why i was perma banned because in my whole DayZ playing time i never killed a player. had one opportunity to kill a bandit, but i lost that gun fight, weak ass makarovs.'

They are still looking into his case, but clearly there has been a mess-up, either on the database or elsewhere. All you rude and unhelpful individuals can start eating your hats.

[SystemiK 366]

Callahan, the fact that you are a long time member of the Arma community notwithstanding, your "better than thou" attitude and elitist outlook are not going to do you any favors here. You chastise others for their "personal and childish insults" yet you yourself have resorted to the same, here on this very forum.

Do yourself a favor and lose the attitude. You are a DayZ community member, same as everyone else, and your time spent playing a video game called Arma does not elevate you to any lofty position of automatic respect which you "seem" to think you are entitled to.

Treat the DayZ community with a modicum of respect rather than the disdain which you have previously put forth and you will be doing both the community and yourself a favor.

Just my thoughts, and I'm glad to hear that your member is allegedly going to get a reprieve from his ban. It would seem all of this forum drama which you started may not have been necessary after all.

[Magnet (DayZ) 211]

How about your 'friend' contacts us with some of the correspondence he has had with BattleEye.

You say he's not banned by BE and they're looking into it but the whole post was based on the report of it being a global ban.

Personally the whole story reeks and it would be appreciated if actual evidence would start being presented if you wish to continue discussions. As it stands I am getting the impression that you are trying to troll the community with a BS story.

Mag.

[7-75 callaghan 43]

Yeah, I have nothing better to do than invent an elaborate troll story that is neither particularly severe nor provocative, because I get a kick out of mildly annoying people rather than going full whack. Come on, you are beginning to sound paranoid. His name on the ban list, as I have said, is 'Big Oso' and is the last player on the first list when the global ban thread was started a while back. As I said I am representing him, as the theory was a third party might not be received with as much suspicion, but this has not been the case lol.

When I know more, I shall inform you. Right now all I can do is pass on the conversations -

Here is a selection of highlights -

"so apparently at some point of not playing DayZ for a few weeks im now banned for life. and the dev. team have posted in other posts that the global ban is from battle eye not them and there are no "false positives" and they "cant do anything about it".

im a little upset to say the least."

ME -

"Lol I saw your name in the first list of global bans Oso - there were only 10 names or so in the list so they must have hand-picked you. Are you sure you didn't use any hacks/cheats, because that is the only thing they ban for, apart from exploits such as killing people in the respawn forest and things like that..."

Him -

"i have never hacked, which is why this blind sided me. there in only one time that i can think of and that is on my first or second day of playing and where i was walking through the woods and i looted a dead bandit i found in the woods. Not really know what the stuff was or if it was going to be useful i took everything i could. i picked up the stuff but i didnt see any of it my inventory though. so i continue to walk around assuming that what he had had glitched out of my inventory. so i i come into a town with zeds. i found out by accident i had the guns from the bandit , (they where invisible and could shoot 500 rounds with out reloading, plus a full auto AT launcher of some kind) so i shot all the rounds so people couldn't pick it up from my dead body later. i then died soon after from a zed encounter with no ammo. that's the only time i can think off that might have caused this.

but that was a little over a month ago and i haven't played DayZ much anyways.

this is complete bullshit."

....

"I do like the Salem witch hunt mentality

"Your are a Hacker!"

"No I'm not. How do I prove I'm not"

"You cant! The evidence is irrefutable!"

"What evidence?"

"Don't bother contacting us about global ban appeals, it wont change."

"

ME -

"Ah it must have been that then. We can back you up on the forums I guess, nothing else I can think of."

Him-

"YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

BattlEye tech support are gonna look into my case!!!!!

cross your fingers they can find out what happened."

....

"so im NOT banned by BattlEye. HA! see im not a hacker!

still i wonder why i was perma banned because in my whole DayZ playing time i never killed a player. had one opportunity to kill a bandit, but i lost that gun fight, weak ass makarovs."

Clearly, he didn't understand the way people are banned, let alone how someone might go about exploiting the game, he is fairly new to this all.

Intel pending...

[drzli 0]

I know it for a fact that the only reason this mod is made is to randomly ban kids so Rocket can enjoy their delicious tears on the forums in the short breaks he takes from coding this awesome mod.

Also, the illuminati, masons, aliens and Bilderberg group are behind it all because they get kicks out of honorable douchebag elitist tears too.

I learned all this on my last black mass from a satanic nun.

(PROOF)

[stover1985@rogers.com 0]

Shit, this guy should write a NY Best seller. I'm hanging on his every word.

[7-75 callaghan 43]

See, this is the kind of nonsense reactions I get when I try to pass on the only information I have on request. Grow up.

[stover1985@rogers.com 0]

Yes, we all need to grow up. Seems to me you were told, oh what, 2nd or 3rd post on the first page, that the issue was with BattleEye and NOT the DayZ devs, but still you continue to cry here. Have you gotten the attention you require? Did you also want a cookie?

[7-75 callaghan 43]

Yes' date=' we all need to grow up. Seems to me you were told, oh what, 2nd or 3rd post on the first page, that the issue was with BattleEye and NOT the DayZ devs, but still you continue to cry here. Have you gotten the attention you require? Did you also want a cookie?

[/quote']

And it has been mentioned in what, 3-4 posts that he is not banned on BattleEye. If this isn't your problem, then why don't you go find something more interesting/useful to do hmm? Seems you enjoy this a great deal, i'm just trying to help a friend out. I stand by the 'grow up'.

[thejoshknight 7]

Again, as many have stated, if your friend is not a hacker that's all well and good.

But until we see OFFICIAL information, from a server host, or battleye, or the DayZ team or whoever it is that your talking with, your story is nothing more than an elaborate hoax.

I'm sorry, but the way it goes is something like this.

Suspected hackers are guilty until proven innocent.

[stover1985@rogers.com 0]

Again' date=' as many have stated, if your friend is not a hacker that's all well and good.

But until we see OFFICIAL information, from a server host, or battleye, or the DayZ team or whoever it is that your talking with, your story is nothing more than an elaborate hoax.

I'm sorry, but the way it goes is something like this.

Suspected hackers are guilty until proven innocent.

[/quote']

You forgot the part where someone's word can be taken at face value on the internet. Oh now wait, he's a "community vet". He'd never ever lie to us.

[7-75 callaghan 43]

Well i'm glad the intrigue of this brings a little excitement to your lives. When I have 'official' information, I will post it. Until then, chill out, perhaps even play the mod.

[Magnet (DayZ) 211]

It's amazing what some people spend their time doing so it wouldn't surprise me if someone would get kicks from creating and posting a story such as this.

However, thanks for posting the information you did. Sadly it still doesn't help.

As said, we've not received BattleEye notifications regarding any false positives so I find it strange that they've told him it's not them. It would be nice to know what message he is getting when he is kicked.

So again, until something containing verifiable information comes forth that can clarify the actual issue then this thread was either created under the false pretense that global bans are to blame by way of incorrect information or intentional troll OR..... actually, no... that's about it.

Mag.

[Shag 90]

Hasn't it been stated many times that bans aren't handed out from picking up weapons or getting in abandoned vehicles???

[theelfishgene 3]

because a post on the forums is always the 100% truth

Maybe not from one of you DayZ kiddies sure.

As a long time OPF/Arma player, you lost me there, obviously your not as honourable as you make out, if you have a serious grievance, email BIS or contact one of the DayZ team, or you can post in the ban appeals thread below!

I know what hacked gear in game looks like but before i started playing i checked weapon lists and what gear/guns was in and what was out! I then refused to use anything i found not on the list.

Your "friends" own ineptitude was his undoing (or was it?)