IcyZ 295 Posted June 20, 2013 Ok, I play DayZ for more than a year now, since it was released to public. There are many things I love and hate. I've never bitched or raged out loud. It's time to do it. I'd love to see replies on the stuff I'm about to say, if you agree/disagree and why.I named this "butthurt" because I'll bitch about everything that makes me rage in game.No1: South Campers. Yes if I find a DMR I'll be happy and I'll snipe the brains out of the first guy that shows up in my scope, but I'll not head south to snipe. I mean, all these retards camping with a M24/DMR on Elektro snipe hill are getting more and more annnoying. And 90% of them are noobs. 2 days ago I spawned fresh in a server and there was a huge fight in elektro. I ran UNARMED up the hill, ran behind a DMR guy, took his m4 out of his bag, shot his face, took his stuff and then shot his friend that was 4m away from me, shooting in the city, not giving a fuck bout the guy with the m4 that just killed someone next to him. BOOP another kill and more gear for me to despawn before I head north.No2: The "friendlies". You run in a hospital with a Makarov. 2 guys with AKMs run to you screaming friendly. You say me too, and aim to the ground to not make them feel threatened. They shoot you, miss, you headshot them and kill them. Then they type in side "you fag you said ur friendly". I mean, COME ON!No3: The admin-lovers. An admin logs in. A regular player starts typing " Hey [admins name], buddy, whatsup? :))))" and crap like that. 5 minutes later "Hey, I died to a stupid bandit earlier, can you spawn me my DMR and Coyote and M9SD again?"."Oh, and ban [bandits name]. he's hacking". "Come on [admins name], we're friends, you can spawn me stuff cause i got killed!!!" ....No4: Abusive admins. <---It pretty much sums up everything. Admins that abuse their powers to gear up, have a vehicle, and find where everyone is(maybe tp as well) to get some kills. Admin teleported to me and spawned himself an MK48 because I didnt pick him up with my dirtbike. I shot him and he alt f4d. He tp his character away, bandaged, had a friend bloodbag him etc and teleported back to me, using admin map to find my spot in a bush and shoot me....No5: Retards on side chat. You play and suddenly a blue name pops up and you hear a 10 y.o. "boy" saying " Im a fwendly bambi, anyone want to team up?" A bandit says yes, gets his location and kills him. Next thing, the kid is yelling "OH MY GOD, YOU ARE A JERK, OH MY GOD YOU CHEATER"Last but not least, the spawnkillers. You spawn in Olsha, before you can hear the sound of the letters indicating your position, CZ fires, and you spawn dead 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage VG 4033 Posted June 20, 2013 Those aren't even specific to the mod.If you've played DC Universe Online, you'd notice that higher-levelled villains will travel to the area that beginner heroes have to go to complete missions and stomp them, and vice versa.People telling you they're one thing then they end up being full of crap is also common, like if you're playing league and someone's like "Oh no, man. I rock as AD Soraka." Then goes like with like 20 deaths, 1 kill he stole from the ADC, and no assists, then blames the team for "feeding".Admin lovers and abusive admins aren't even specific to video games. People will kiss-ass anyone with authority to get what they want, and the ego trip this causes goes straight to the heads of the authority.Again, children yelling over the chat is nothing new. If you've owned an Xbox, you've experienced it. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IcyZ 295 Posted June 20, 2013 Those aren't even specific to the mod.If you've played DC Universe Online, you'd notice that higher-levelled villains will travel to the area that beginner heroes have to go to complete missions and stomp them, and vice versa.People telling you they're one thing then they end up being full of crap is also common, like if you're playing league and someone's like "Oh no, man. I rock as AD Soraka." Then goes like with like 20 deaths, 1 kill he stole from the ADC, and no assists, then blames the team for "feeding".Admin lovers and abusive admins aren't even specific to video games. People will kiss-ass anyone with authority to get what they want, and the ego trip this causes goes straight to the heads of the authority.Again, children yelling over the chat is nothing new. If you've owned an Xbox, you've experienced it.The other games I play online are mainly Counter Strike and Battlefield, so I'm lucky enough to come across only abusive admins, stacking their team with good players and leaving the noobs to the enemy team."False identity" is not my problem, if I dont have the bandit skin I lie as well, acting friendly. I cant stand it though when they fail to betray-kill me and I kill them and they start raging about me not being friendly.Luckily for me I hate League so i dont have any problems ;)And I dont have an Xbox, PS fan since 1995, but annoying kids exist in CS as well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leviski 2152 Posted June 20, 2013 I must say I have NEVER been spawn killed everhave had admins give away my postitions before though -.-but that is why I am in BB nowLol rage you confused the shit out of my with the start of that post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris529 380 Posted June 20, 2013 I've spawned on the coast sometimes and some dumbass is trying to snipe me, I usually get him to waste at least 15+ shots before I finally get hit. Other times on private hives where you spawn with guns, there's always someone close by to a spawn who will miss every shot. All you have to do is crouch and softly kiss his brain with a bullet.People that couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat make me annoyed mostly. The number of times I have walked away from someone who should have killed me is nuts, I doubt they even played A2 let alone completed the training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aporis 422 Posted June 20, 2013 I have never ever spawn killed but rest of the OP's stuff has happend to me too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegitOldSchool 261 Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) No4: Abusive admins. <---It pretty much sums up everything. Admins that abuse their powers to gear up, have a vehicle, and find where everyone is(maybe tp as well) to get some kills. Admin teleported to me and spawned himself an MK48 because I didnt pick him up with my dirtbike. I shot him and he alt f4d. He tp his character away, bandaged, had a friend bloodbag him etc and teleported back to me, using admin map to find my spot in a bush and shoot me....I've run servers before, you on the other hand seem to be completely clueless about what being an admin is. Admins CANNOT spawn loot, spawn vehicles, teleport or kill with the press of a button. The ONLY way an admin can change gear is to get into the server files and MANUALLY edit your save, and it only takes effect after a server restart. So that means it only works on private hives. Also, the only way an admin can spawn a vehicle is by opening the admin map, adding a vehicle and restarting the server. That is the way they make those 200+ vehicles servers, they are all added manually through the server's map. Is someone teleported to you or spawned weapons/items, he's a scripter/hacker, might be an admin scripter/hacker, but he's not using admin powers to do it because admins don't have those "powers".About using the admin map to find a player in a bush, that's just ridiculous. The map is not dynamically updated, you have to refresh it to get an approximate location of any player or vehicle and by the time you get back in game the player might be anywhere from 50 to 250m from the location on the map. Edited June 20, 2013 by EchoZeero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiHero (DayZ) 16 Posted June 20, 2013 DMR noobs are annoying as hell. The most frustrating thing that's happened to me is an admin giving away my base location and hidden heli. "Hey guis theres a heli stashed at X location herpa derpa" .......why do you think its hidden you cock. If you're an admin you should play by the rules on your server just as you expect everyone else to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sutinen 635 Posted June 20, 2013 The admin-lovers are the only ones that annoy me. DMR campers are not that bad if you know what areas to avoid and how to avoid them in general if you're in the big cities in a full server.And I have never been spawn killed myself. I don't die very often either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJTurneR 112 Posted June 20, 2013 People who communicate through side chat, and I don't even mean VOIP. I mean typing..Seriously, the amount of noob groups that start communciating to each other through side is somewhat entertaining. I can't count the amount of times a few guys have been going "Oh, lets go here" "A heli here guys". 10 minutes later I or someone else would turn up and slaughter them, and they are left wondering how they were found there.Also people who won't even take a breath after they have been killed and shout hacker almost as if it was natural.. In fact it is most likely natural. This is why I appreciate being able to record in high quality. Nothing better than some idiot shouting hacker, and turning around and saying "Want to see what happened? I recorded it!" All of a sudden they stop talking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IcyZ 295 Posted June 20, 2013 I've run servers before, you on the other hand seem to be completely clueless about what being an admin is. Admins CANNOT spawn loot, spawn vehicles, teleport or kill with the press of a button. The ONLY way an admin can change gear is to get into the server files and MANUALLY edit your save, and it only takes effect after a server restart. So that means it only works on private hives. Also, the only way an admin can spawn a vehicle is by opening the admin map, adding a vehicle and restarting the server. That is the way they make those 200+ vehicles servers, they are all added manually through the server's map. Is someone teleported to you or spawned weapons/items, he's a scripter/hacker, might be an admin scripter/hacker, but he's not using admin powers to do it because admins don't have those "powers".About using the admin map to find a player in a bush, that's just ridiculous. The map is not dynamically updated, you have to refresh it to get an approximate location of any player or vehicle and by the time you get back in game the player might be anywhere from 50 to 250m from the location on the map.I don't know wich server hosting company you used, but I've been a co-admin in 5 dayz servers. Except from the Origins one , the only thing you have to do to spawn stuff and TP is go to the lobby, change your gear and position and log back in. Haven't done it , myself but the headadmin could do it. And it's easy as hell to do, we done that for 20+ people on some events like capture the hill etc, when someone dies we just TP him close so he wont have to run for hours.And you can just have the "admin map" open in another window/monitor and follow it as it autorefreshes every XXX seconds.So you're either one of these abusive admins trying to look innocent or you have to learn all the features of your dayz server CP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage VG 4033 Posted June 20, 2013 I've run servers before, you on the other hand seem to be completely clueless about what being an admin is.That was unnecessarily harsh. Whether he's wrong or not, do you have to retaliate as if he's personally insulted you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted June 20, 2013 That was unnecessarily harsh. Whether he's wrong or not, do you have to retaliate as if he's personally insulted you?not to mention ironic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IcyZ 295 Posted June 20, 2013 That was unnecessarily harsh. Whether he's wrong or not, do you have to retaliate as if he's personally insulted you?Funny thing is he's the clueless one. But it's Teh Internetz, people like him are everywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinwalker 31 Posted June 20, 2013 youve played dayz for over a year and yet you act like these things are new? dont like it? find a new server. problem solved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fez0r 23 Posted June 20, 2013 Servers with side chat enabled should be banned.Just my humble opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DayzForumer 284 Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) I've run servers before, you on the other hand seem to be completely clueless about what being an admin is. Admins CANNOT spawn loot, spawn vehicles, teleport or kill with the press of a button. The ONLY way an admin can change gear is to get into the server files and MANUALLY edit your save, and it only takes effect after a server restart. So that means it only works on private hives. Also, the only way an admin can spawn a vehicle is by opening the admin map, adding a vehicle and restarting the server. That is the way they make those 200+ vehicles servers, they are all added manually through the server's map. Is someone teleported to you or spawned weapons/items, he's a scripter/hacker, might be an admin scripter/hacker, but he's not using admin powers to do it because admins don't have those "powers".About using the admin map to find a player in a bush, that's just ridiculous. The map is not dynamically updated, you have to refresh it to get an approximate location of any player or vehicle and by the time you get back in game the player might be anywhere from 50 to 250m from the location on the map."Can't check map." "Can't spawn vehicles." "Can't spawn weapons." Truth hurts, doesn't it?Also, heres an extra Edited June 20, 2013 by DayzForumer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saethkept 134 Posted June 20, 2013 I've run servers before, you on the other hand seem to be completely clueless about what being an admin is. Admins CANNOT spawn loot, spawn vehicles, teleport or kill with the press of a button. The ONLY way an admin can change gear is to get into the server files and MANUALLY edit your save, and it only takes effect after a server restart. So that means it only works on private hives. Also, the only way an admin can spawn a vehicle is by opening the admin map, adding a vehicle and restarting the server. That is the way they make those 200+ vehicles servers, they are all added manually through the server's map. Is someone teleported to you or spawned weapons/items, he's a scripter/hacker, might be an admin scripter/hacker, but he's not using admin powers to do it because admins don't have those "powers".About using the admin map to find a player in a bush, that's just ridiculous. The map is not dynamically updated, you have to refresh it to get an approximate location of any player or vehicle and by the time you get back in game the player might be anywhere from 50 to 250m from the location on the map.Actually, admins can indeed spawn loot - directly into a player's inventory, without restarting the server, depending on the server provider's admin tool set. Admins can also spawn and/or repair vehicles, literally move a player from one coordinate to another, remove items from a players inventory and kill a player without ever logging into the game. They can do all of that and more. I've run DayZ servers of many varieties for months now, and while I believe in as hands off as possible an admin style, the potential for abuse is immensely underrated and very easy to carry out.@the OP,Everything you've listed are symptoms of most online games but glaring nonetheless. The simplest answers are the easiest to answer yourself. Play on a server run by decent people. Move like the wind after spawning in, and if someone spawn kills you time and time again on the same server, leave it. Make friends you can trust and play with them. Rather than complain, react and adapt in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DayzForumer 284 Posted June 20, 2013 Still want that reply for my post. :x 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IcyZ 295 Posted June 20, 2013 Still want that reply for my post. :xI was gonna post the video but you were faster! :) I love these ignorant dudes, he either never admined a server and tries to act "cool", or he's so stupid that he doesn't know what he can do on his server Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IcyZ 295 Posted June 20, 2013 Actually, admins can indeed spawn loot - directly into a player's inventory, without restarting the server, depending on the server provider's admin tool set. Admins can also spawn and/or repair vehicles, literally move a player from one coordinate to another, remove items from a players inventory and kill a player without ever logging into the game. They can do all of that and more. I've run DayZ servers of many varieties for months now, and while I believe in as hands off as possible an admin style, the potential for abuse is immensely underrated and very easy to carry out.@the OP,Everything you've listed are symptoms of most online games but glaring nonetheless. The simplest answers are the easiest to answer yourself. Play on a server run by decent people. Move like the wind after spawning in, and if someone spawn kills you time and time again on the same server, leave it. Make friends you can trust and play with them. Rather than complain, react and adapt in game.As I said this thread is for complaining, it's getting boring to not be afraid for my IG life, I'll either get ambushed and kill the guys, or I'll attack someone that will NOT put on a good fight. I've been changins lots of servers, whitelisted, public, full, empty, its the same everywhere. Dudes running around with a horde on their ass, try to shoot you, miss , pass out and get eaten.Lately I've been saving people from the zombies because killing them is too easy and too boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jantr 14 Posted June 21, 2013 No1: South Campers. Yes if I find a DMR I'll be happy and I'll snipe the brains out of the first guy that shows up in my scope, but I'll not head south to snipe. I mean, all these retards camping with a M24/DMR on Elektro snipe hill are getting more and more annnoying. And 90% of them are noobs. 2 days ago I spawned fresh in a server and there was a huge fight in elektro. I ran UNARMED up the hill, ran behind a DMR guy, took his m4 out of his bag, shot his face, took his stuff and then shot his friend that was 4m away from me, shooting in the city, not giving a fuck bout the guy with the m4 that just killed someone next to him. BOOP another kill and more gear for me to despawn before I head north.Constant death matching i dont believe was the original intent of DayZ but then again their is no true way to honestly stop players from doing it other than giving them an incentive to not. Either way it is a part of the game and you will just have to learn to accept it because you cant change it. Im not too sure about you shooting someone in the face and having the time to sit there and loot him without the other sniper reacting unless he was afk.No2: The "friendlies". You run in a hospital with a Makarov. 2 guys with AKMs run to you screaming friendly. You say me too, and aim to the ground to not make them feel threatened. They shoot you, miss, you headshot them and kill them. Then they type in side "you fag you said ur friendly". I mean, COME ON!I dont see how this would upset you. If you just killed two idiots you should be laughing and feel slightly accomplished rather than agitated, spewing derogatory terms towards homosexuals over side chat.No3: The admin-lovers. An admin logs in. A regular player starts typing " Hey [admins name], buddy, whatsup? )))" and crap like that. 5 minutes later "Hey, I died to a stupid bandit earlier, can you spawn me my DMR and Coyote and M9SD again?"."Oh, and ban [bandits name]. he's hacking". "Come on [admins name], we're friends, you can spawn me stuff cause i got killed!!!" ....Once again something else you cannot change. As previously stated before people will suck up to those with power. Also there is a simple solution... Play official hives!No4: Abusive admins. <---It pretty much sums up everything. Admins that abuse their powers to gear up, have a vehicle, and find where everyone is(maybe tp as well) to get some kills. Admin teleported to me and spawned himself an MK48 because I didnt pick him up with my dirtbike. I shot him and he alt f4d. He tp his character away, bandaged, had a friend bloodbag him etc and teleported back to me, using admin map to find my spot in a bush and shoot me....Again... something else you cannot change. There is a simple solution... Play official hives! If you choose to play private servers knowing this information then thats your own damn fault and have no right to bitch about it when you are putting yourself in the situation to suffer.No5: Retards on side chat. You play and suddenly a blue name pops up and you hear a 10 y.o. "boy" saying " Im a fwendly bambi, anyone want to team up?" A bandit says yes, gets his location and kills him. Next thing, the kid is yelling "OH MY GOD, YOU ARE A JERK, OH MY GOD YOU CHEATER"See previous reply once more."Last but not least, the spawnkillers. You spawn in Olsha, before you can hear the sound of the letters indicating your position, CZ fires, and you spawn dead"This just sucks :( 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullraugh 1151 Posted June 21, 2013 Every game, mod, simulator, chat room, forum, etc has it's idiots. You can't get rid of them, and they will surely never go away. Luckily, with the new radio system, it might limit the amount of idiots that can make your day horrible by saying stupid stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelonewarrior 886 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) Speaking of admins, yesterday I join a server and an epic debate is going on with the admins and suchI head to balota and a guy starts shooting at me, I run him over in a car I found and suddenly the admins go bat shit crazy saying that this is their server and their is no pvp against the admins, only admins can be bandits and even if fired upon you may not kill them if they have a bandit skin unless you donateThey said all admins and their friends have bandit skins and even if they try to kill you , your not allowed to return fire, the bandit I ran over was friends with the admins and after I loot him I'm plagued by teleporting admins who keep trying you kill meAfter a kill them a few times they turn on invincibility and keep killing me every time I spawnThey said they didn't hack, but obviously they didI wanted to find out if they were just hackers or a actually real admins so I could report them and changed my name a few times and still everything I spawned they were waiting for me and knew who I wasI videoed most of it including their terrible shooting at me so might post it Edited June 21, 2013 by Regulator Lone Warrior Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tajjuk 65 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) "Can't check map." "Can't spawn vehicles." "Can't spawn weapons." Truth hurts, doesn't it?Also, heres an extra You can't teleport on DayZst servers as far as i know, you have to re-start the server to spawn a vehicle in or repair one and the player has to log out before any gear can be added. The player map is also highly inaccurate, you can only get an approximate area and it's terrible if they are moving quite fast. Most of what he said from my experience is correct. It's very difficult to do any of the stuff the OP mentioned on the fly.Also WTF would an admin alt-f4? he can just spawn some new gear in when he dies. Also most admins just have vehicles they keep on the go in game no need to spawn them in.Lets be honest if an admin abuses his powers like that then his server count is going to be really low, admins have these powers to protect the server. I for example go around manually checking camps and bases to see what sort of loot players have as this is usually a good way of catching people spawning stuff in. Most days when I'm on my own server the only thing I log into is Dart so I can kcik/ban people or do admin chat. I go around looking for my stuff/lott etc. cos well that;s the game. If someone has reported something fishy we go into proper admin mode and might use the map to observe/stalk people. Edited June 21, 2013 by tajjuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites