New Stealth System would be totally fine IF

[Perrywinkle 6]

IF every building worth sneaking to weren't completely looted/fenced/hopped by someone who is "smarter" than me.

Before you start improving items/stealth/ANYTHING else, you need to fix server hopping. It is extremely frustrating to sneak to a firehouse and fine the stairs fenced, or a church, or schoolhouse, or apartments.

These walls serve no purpose in terms of fortification. There is seemingly little benefit in fortifying any of these locations for an extended period of time, unless that reason is to secure your loot farm for server hopping.

In the end, it just encourages OTHER players to do the same thing or to server hop behind the barriers.

"Find a toolbox, scrub" is a bullshit answer. It is blatant abuse of the game system and needs to be corrected. I shouldn't have to go to the ends of the earth to find a toolbox to undo someone's exploitation.

The best way to fix would be to simply have fences/traps/barricades disappear when someone logs off the server. Save them to the player, player leaves, no more barricade.

OR let me break them down with my axe/jump over them/etc.

Also, making items around a player within a 50m radius on login would GREATLY reduce server hopping.

It's just extremely frustrating to see this on every server and forces others to do the same thing.

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Just ran through Elektro.

South Firehouse was barricaded along the Entire fenced perimeter

Schoolhouse was barricaded on first flight of stairs. (ladder hurrdurr)

Church was barricaded.

North Firehouse was barricaded at stair entrance.

How is this not bullshit? Are any devs looking into fixing this?

[Banicks 55]

I'm presuming that because they chose to include wire and sandbags it is an intended part of the game.

So if you don't want to find a toolbox or move to another building/town, find a different server. I reckon it's just noobs doing it on purpose, unless it's NWA in which case it would be self explanatory.

[Virfortis 111]

Adding "impassable barriers aiding server hopping" on the list of things that need immediate fixing, coupled with "DCing to prevent dying" and "purging jerks from the forums." This is right up there with NVGs really, one side gaining a clear advantage with no repercussions.

[Blippy 26]

Can't you just step over the barriers? That's what I do whenever I encounter sandbags or razor wire.

[Perrywinkle 6]

I'm presuming that because they chose to include wire and sandbags it is an intended part of the game.

So if you don't want to find a toolbox or move to another building/town' date=' find a different server. I reckon it's just noobs doing it on purpose, unless it's NWA in which case it would be self explanatory.

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I don't see how hopping from server to server for the BEST rifle you can find at that spawn location is part of the persistent vision that we have been told from Rocket. In most cases, it isn't just noobs. It's someone who wants to restrict all access to a point on several servers so they can safely loot.

Can't you just step over the barriers? That's what I do whenever I encounter sandbags or razor wire.

You can step over the barriers sometimes. I have seen instances where there will be more than one barrier AND barrier type, just in case some glitch into the floor/are passable. In alot of cases, hopping the barrier will result into you glitching into the ground/barrier... This breaks both your legs and you bleed out.

[Poundoff 32]

Adding "impassable barriers aiding server hopping" on the list of things that need immediate fixing' date=' coupled with "DCing to prevent dying" and "purging jerks from the forums." This is right up there with NVGs really, one side gaining a clear advantage with no repercussions.

[/quote']

Impassable Barriers aid server hopping. Yup, but don't confuse the fact you can remove these barriers. You can't stop assholes from server hopping but you can sure as hell kill their protection, loot for yourself, wait for them to connect for a kill, or you can loot and leave.

It's broken because people can server hop but I really don't see a possible fix to Server hopping other than your character being saved to one server. Which would kill this game simply because patches come out, servers don't upgrade at the same rate, and go down all the time.

Not to mention playing with friends would be twice as hard because the smooth and popular servers would all be full at all times.

Now onto the Disconnecting to avoid death........yeah enough said, pussy move. Will be fixed I feel shortly.

NVG's being imbalanced? You for real?

That's like running through a field and getting sniped and calling it not fair because he had a unfair advantage of a better gun and distance on you.

That's childish as hell.

It's a realistic simulator.

Shit isn't fair in real life. Why would it be any different in a realistic simulator video game?

[Aitloian 11]

Every obstacle i've encountered i've been able to use the "V" key on the keyboard and leap right over so i'm not sure what kind of obstacles you've been running into but your not giving it your best effort, I will admit you sometimes a guy needs to fiddle with it a little bit but they are made to be able to walk over.

Yeah who said NVG's are imbalanced? your insane of course they are why else would everyone want em?

[Perrywinkle 6]

There must be some secret to hopping over obstacles. I cannot jump over obstacles that sit flat on terrain. If the glitch through a building floor, I am able to get over them easily. If the obstacle sits right I cannot.

[UbiquitousBadGuy 846]

Interested if anybody has confirmed cases of jumping over razor-wire without bleeding out.

[Aitloian 11]

Jumped razor many,many times and sandbags with no problem i imagine you can break your leg doing it but i haven't.

Sandbags on flat ground CAN be stepped over please learn the controls of this game before you make threads about how you can't get around objects.

Wait till you whiners get to the NW airbase and your trying to step over that stupid bench lol

Oh wait i'll know when you make it there because you'll make a thread about it

"The NW airbase would be sweet if...."

[Perrywinkle 6]

Jumped razor many' date='many times and sandbags with no problem i imagine you can break your leg doing it but i haven't.

Sandbags on flat ground CAN be stepped over please learn the controls of this game before you make threads about how you can't get around objects.

Wait till you whiners get to the NW airbase and your trying to step over that stupid bench lol

Oh wait i'll know when you make it there because you'll make a thread about it

"The NW airbase would be sweet if...."

[/quote']

This was very constructive.

You CAN jump over sandbags, but you CANNOT jump over razorwire on flat ground. You cannot. It is impossible. You cannot refute that.

Most people don't encounter sandbags in the starting area... They encounter razorwire and tanktraps spammed at every firehouse/church/school. YOU CANNOT JUMP OVER THESE ON FLAT GROUND. YOU CANNOT HIT V AND GET OVER THEM.

I'm not whining to whine. I'm trying to bring up an issue that many people experience.

[Rinner23 5]

Most people don't encounter sandbags in the starting area... They encounter razorwire and tanktraps spammed at every firehouse/church/school. YOU CANNOT JUMP OVER THESE ON FLAT GROUND. YOU CANNOT HIT V AND GET OVER THEM.

Is this true? I've never had a chance to test it... probably a bug. Anyone confirm?

[Poundoff 32]

Jumped razor many' date='many times and sandbags with no problem i imagine you can break your leg doing it but i haven't.

Sandbags on flat ground CAN be stepped over please learn the controls of this game before you make threads about how you can't get around objects.

Wait till you whiners get to the NW airbase and your trying to step over that stupid bench lol

Oh wait i'll know when you make it there because you'll make a thread about it

"The NW airbase would be sweet if...."

[/quote']

This was very constructive.

You CAN jump over sandbags, but you CANNOT jump over razorwire on flat ground. You cannot. It is impossible. You cannot refute that.

Most people don't encounter sandbags in the starting area... They encounter razorwire and tanktraps spammed at every firehouse/church/school. YOU CANNOT JUMP OVER THESE ON FLAT GROUND. YOU CANNOT HIT V AND GET OVER THEM.

I'm not whining to whine. I'm trying to bring up an issue that many people experience.

Not true. I've jumped over razer wire many times. Unless its glitched above or into the the ground.

Without bleeding.

Never been hurt by razer wire.

[xsouvenir 0]

Me and 2 of my friends jumped over Razor Wire that was blocking the castle entrance without even taking damage earlier tonight. I also did it yesterday in the 1.7.1.4.

[septuscap 42]

Interested if anybody has confirmed cases of jumping over razor-wire without bleeding out.

I can confirm this. There was wire fence at the base of the stairs of balota air traffic control tower on the first floor, I just 'V'aulted right over it. No bleeding. I think the fencing may have sunk into the floor or something which made this possible.

[Bluegobln 0]

I think the rampant cheating is in general really pathetic.

I wanted to play as a more friendly person - denied that. Being friendly gets you killed in many, many ways.

I wanted to play as a legit player, no cheating. I've also been denied that as I run into cheating bastards left and right.

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There are ways to make trees invisible. I had a guy snipe me through thick woodlands, his first few shots hit trees before he finally got me. He was probably on a hill a mile away just picking people off as he pleased. I'm 99% sure of this because I saw where the bullets hit the tree, and it was like... nothing but green, and more green, and more green... his shots were hitting like 8 feet off the ground so he had to be above me on a hill. I also only ever heard the impacts, never the shots.

[septuscap 42]

I think the rampant cheating is in general really pathetic.

I wanted to play as a more friendly person - denied that. Being friendly gets you killed in many' date=' many ways.

I wanted to play as a legit player, no cheating. I've also been denied that as I run into cheating bastards left and right. [/quote']

Did you just admit you cheat?

There are ways to make trees invisible. I had a guy snipe me through thick woodlands' date=' his first few shots hit trees before he finally got me. He was probably on a hill a mile away just picking people off as he pleased. I'm 99% sure of this because I saw where the bullets hit the tree, and it was like... nothing but green, and more green, and more green... his shots were hitting like 8 feet off the ground so he had to be above me on a hill. I also only ever heard the impacts, never the shots.

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How does anything in this story indicate the guy made trees invisible?

[Ubar1337Haxor 1]

Edit: Wrong post.

Topic: Sometimes its really hard to see anything in the game while night, but i can handle it.

[Neog2 (DayZ) 0]

Interested if anybody has confirmed cases of jumping over razor-wire without bleeding out.

Did it several times today at ROG at the big tower there someone had placed razer wire in front of the entrance. Lol at my ASCII art below But best I can do to describe how i bypassed the wire.

Door

Wall====Entrance====Wall

First What didn't work I tried roughly 25-30 times using the V (hop over) going straight on facing towards C that didn't work at all and didn't get me anywhere. I tried running starts, crouch starts, slow starts. FAIL every time. I went from A - B facing towards the entrance and didn't work.

NOW what did work. And I tried it multiple times, and even had another person do the same thing. If you go to either end, A, or B and Face the opposite Letter (End) then hit the V key (Hop over) Then it will work.

So if you go to A make sure your shoulder is against the wall, and your facing B. Then when you hop over you hop into the Razer Wire Side ways, instead of trying to hop over your hopping in. Work every single time tried it from both ends and I never broke a leg nor cut myself after doing it 5 times from each side.

Now getting out was a little bit tricker but it is still doable without hurting yourself.

[zantiago 119]

Im laughing so hard im crying.

All i see in this post is hurr durr, blabla sandbags and wire fences..

The only valid point here beeing server hopping..

If the barricades aren't ment to keep shit from comming through, then what are they for then?

They aren't noobs, if they barricade themselfs in a freaking house with an overlook position.

It's smart, and it is the same as any clown on this forum would do, should an apocalypse like this happen here..

Or would you grab an axe and run arround in the forrest hunting animals to cook?

You aren't fooling anyone here, nor is there a point for you to try and defend yourself on the subject. This is a stupid thing to say, through on through..

Toolboxes aren't hard to find, i found 6 of them just in cherno..

On ONE server..

If you think barricading a building is dumb, then you are in the wrong game.

This is all about protecting yourself..

#1 Yeah, loot spawns in that building

#2 Yeah, it looks like a dickish move

#3 Yeah, it can be removed

#4 While doing so, nothing stops people from shooting them while removing it

Pointless thread, no offense to the OP, and those who agree regarding the barricades, but it's just stupid to complain about this.

It's part of the game, so carry on as normally, or change towns.

No loot you find in the town are inreplaceable.

But thats only my .50Cent

-Z

[Macenzie 79]

I agree, these 'fortifications' are usualy just a huge pain in the ass. Maybe restrict their placement like with tents, it has to be in an open flat area.

It will stop them from putting them into doorways and other annoying, glitchy places.

Also, they need to be easier to remove when you do have a toolbox. Last time I tried to remove razor wire I found I had to aim at one particular PIXEL on the item... That took a while.

[Kolchak (DayZ) 5]

Im laughing so hard im crying.

All i see in this post is hurr durr' date=' blabla sandbags and wire fences..

The only valid point here beeing server hopping..

If the barricades aren't ment to keep shit from comming through, then what are they for then?

They aren't noobs, if they barricade themselfs in a freaking house with an overlook position.

It's smart, and it is the same as any clown on this forum would do, should an apocalypse like this happen here..

...

But thats only my .50Cent

-Z

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First, what do toolboxes have to do with it? You need an entrenching tool, and those don't spawn in tool sheds.

Second, people who barricade themselves in buildings in zombie movies always die for a reason. It's far from a smart thing to do, because the zombies always come through, anything a single person can put up with all their strength can be torn down by 20 zombies using a fraction of their strength. This is further illustrated by the fact that here barricades don't stop zombies they stop players. And you know the only place I see barricades? Cherno, Elektro. I hit up Vybor, Berez, Stary, and Novy repeatedly, but they're never there, just in gank zones. You're not surviving, you're deathmatching, and these 'fortifications' just help you deathmatch easier. You put up some tank traps or barbed wire and wait for a freshly spawned player to come by and try to enter, while they sit there saying "WTF? WHO-" you pop out and kill them. Then you disconnect to drop aggro. How do I know you disconnect? You just killed someone letting everyone and every zed nearby know where you are, and you barricaded your only exits. You either sit trapped in the coffin you just made or you DC. So you DC, wait a bit then hop back in, waiting for your next victim. Am I saying you're the scum of the earth, no. You're using the tools you have in the way you want. But for crying out loud at least own up to being a ganker, don't pretend you're doing it cause 'it's the smart thing to do.'

Personally, I don't really care if you board up every building in Cherno and Elektro, Hopefully it'll get it through to people that those two places aren't worth going into. If people stop using them as grand central maybe then they'll actually spread around the map instead of having 3/4s of the players on the map going back and forth between two towns doing their pathetic deathmatch BS.

[bddy420 0]

Adding "impassable barriers aiding server hopping" on the list of things that need immediate fixing' date=' coupled with "DCing to prevent dying" and "purging jerks from the forums." This is right up there with NVGs really, one side gaining a clear advantage with no repercussions.

[/quote']

Impassable Barriers aid server hopping. Yup, but don't confuse the fact you can remove these barriers. You can't stop assholes from server hopping but you can sure as hell kill their protection, loot for yourself, wait for them to connect for a kill, or you can loot and leave.

It's broken because people can server hop but I really don't see a possible fix to Server hopping other than your character being saved to one server. Which would kill this game simply because patches come out, servers don't upgrade at the same rate, and go down all the time.

Not to mention playing with friends would be twice as hard because the smooth and popular servers would all be full at all times.

Now onto the Disconnecting to avoid death........yeah enough said, pussy move. Will be fixed I feel shortly.

NVG's being imbalanced? You for real?

That's like running through a field and getting sniped and calling it not fair because he had a unfair advantage of a better gun and distance on you.

That's childish as hell.

It's a realistic simulator.

Shit isn't fair in real life. Why would it be any different in a realistic simulator video game?

Everything this player said I Completely agree with. Everything.

[Cicero 2]

awesome game is awesome

[Perrywinkle 6]

Im laughing so hard im crying.

All i see in this post is hurr durr' date=' blabla sandbags and wire fences..

The only valid point here beeing server hopping..

If the barricades aren't ment to keep shit from comming through, then what are they for then?

They aren't noobs, if they barricade themselfs in a freaking house with an overlook position.

It's smart, and it is the same as any clown on this forum would do, should an apocalypse like this happen here..

Or would you grab an axe and run arround in the forrest hunting animals to cook?

You aren't fooling anyone here, nor is there a point for you to try and defend yourself on the subject. This is a stupid thing to say, through on through..

Toolboxes aren't hard to find, i found 6 of them just in cherno..

On ONE server..

If you think barricading a building is dumb, then you are in the wrong game.

This is all about protecting yourself..

#1 Yeah, loot spawns in that building

#2 Yeah, it looks like a dickish move

#3 Yeah, it can be removed

#4 While doing so, nothing stops people from shooting them while removing it

Pointless thread, no offense to the OP, and those who agree regarding the barricades, but it's just stupid to complain about this.

It's part of the game, so carry on as normally, or change towns.

No loot you find in the town are inreplaceable.

But thats only my .50Cent

-Z

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Missed the point of my post.

I don't mind that people barricade OR that people hang out like idiots in buildings.

I mind that some asshole puts up a barricade and hops servers. His barricade stays.

The fact is, I've never been blasted in the face trying to hop over the 50+ razor fences that I have seen over servers. People aren't using them to barricade and hold a position. They are using them to barricade and FARM a position.

Nice defense of this though. You want to keep your loot farms up? Is that it?

If you think barricading a building is smart, then you are in the wrong game.

This is all about staying alive ..

#1 Yeah, everyone knows where you are

#2 Yeah, loot spawns are too long to justify it on a single server

#3 Yeah, You kind of barricaded your only way out

#4 While doing so, nothing stops people from shooting you while removing your dumb barricade

#5 Nothing stops people from simply camping the entrance

If you are actually trying to say you play like this... I don't think you understand how DayZ works :\ BUT I doubt you do.