Killing zombies, just not fun.

[zenvolta 12]

To start off let me just say this. I know the game is supposed to be hard. I commend and respect it because of this.

But when youve got a horde of zombies in front of you and the only real option is to crawl or avoid them it just takes the fun out of killing them. Right now I feel there is to much risk in killing the zombies.

Iv been trying to think how I would make them better if not more fun to shoot and clear out towns "fun".

Iv thought of 3 ways I would do this by

1. Less runners. Make Fast zombies a much more "rare" spawn. Not remove them just not every zombie will haul ass and get right in your face.

2. Zombies have a slower attack speed/longer "wait" time. Fast zombies would have the same attack speed as they do now. So while you are fighting them the slower shamblers will have time to get up on you.

3. Once a town is clear of zombies maybe they spawn more on the outskirts of town and try to get back in. A varation of this would be to have a more central spawn point for zombies and not let them spawn all over the place(all the time. It should still happen, just not 100% random)

What do you guys think about the zombies and/or how would you change them?

[warbo201 0]

i would slow them down slightly just to give us a slight chance of escapeing a 100 meter run, also i would add a loss of limbs, simply shoot both arms so all they can do is try to bite making them weaker in atack, shoot off the leggs and make them crawlers, would be good if you could do that imo :)

[gusmanak 1]

The first paragraph of what you said here, is 100% intended. The rest of your post is nonsense.

It's supposed to be hard, you're supposed to fear zombies, you're supposed to NOT want their attention, and you're supposed to avoid them like your mother-in-law.

I've spent a lot of time in 1.7.1.1, and I have to say I follow all of the above religiously.

[HedonismBot 0]

You have committed the cardinal sin of the DayZ forum. You've suggested they change something.

[warbo201 0]

You have committed the cardinal sin of the DayZ forum. You've suggested they change something.

No he just states what HE would change!

[Actionmike 0]

yeah zombie AI is a pain in an otherwise great mod, id settle for the runners coming straight at you rather than the Zig zag and circle they do atm, in the open you have little chance of gettign a shot on target before they are behind you chewing on your ear.

[redsh1rt 24]

Your changes would trivialise zombies. I prefer the way the zombies are now to the way they were before. Fun is clearing out a town without getting hit by a zombie, or even shooting them - and you can do that without crawling. It's the same as before only the tactics used are different, you can lure zombies away from loot spots and then lose them and return to the loot for example.

If crawling around towns and taking your time isn't fun then find a method that is! I'd hate to have zombies made less of a threat, I just don't see how getting access to loot easily is fun. It would be rather boring for me, and death would feel like less of a punishment.

[zenvolta 12]

Ouch, "nonsense". Pretty harsh.

Since my first post was how to make killing them more fun. And your post seems to be more "fun is for losers. Crawl like a man". I dont want easy mode. I just want more options in how I play.

So would it be safe to say that you think the way it is right now that killing zombies is fun?

Edit: @redsh1rt, you might be right. I am still trying to get the hang of this new LOS system.

@HedonismBot, Damnit, I should be burned at the stake lolz

[CommodoreFrank 13]

You have committed the cardinal sin of the DayZ forum. You've suggested they change something.

No he just states what HE would change!

And what's wrong with saying what he wants? It's not like he's whining about something. We can't get a whole picture of what people enjoy if people don't voice their opinions. This is the point of public testing.

[gusmanak 1]

Ouch' date=' "nonsense". Pretty harsh.

Since my first post was how to make killing them more fun. And your post seems to be more "fun is for losers. Crawl like a man". I dont want easy mode. I just want more options in how I play.

So would it be safe to say that you think the way it is right now that killing zombies is fun?

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You don't have to crawl though. Zombies have a VERY direct sight now... Unless they're looking at you, you can crouch-walk or even run (As long as you don't make noise, depending on the surface you're walking on) to loot spots.

It's HARD because you have to pay attention to where the zombies are looking. But if you can master that, then you don't have to be a crawling king.

[zenvolta 12]

Also some of you have point this out already. Im not saying they should change anything. I like the game just the way it is. I wanted this topic to be what people thought on a subject of "killing zombies, fun or not" Not "ZOMG WHY YOU SUCK BE BETTER" or "The games fine, you just dont know how to play".

If the game stays the way it is, thats fine with me. But having a input from the community without the weird "dont change a thing" line of thought just isnt good IMO.

[Geig3r 0]

yeah zombie AI is a pain in an otherwise great mod' date=' id settle for the runners coming straight at you rather than the Zig zag and circle they do atm, in the open you have little chance of gettign a shot on target before they are behind you chewing on your ear.

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Yeah, that turbo zig zagging gets annoying when you're working on a headshot with a handful of bullets.

Also if we're going sim, there should be a lot of different melee weapons with vary degrees of effectiveness. If we were really in a zombie apocalypse and I didn't have a gun, I'd grab just about anything and make it a weapon. Having no weapon is going to be really rough on the larger audience especially because you can't even punch them out of your way.

[underscore 12]

You have committed the cardinal sin of the DayZ forum. You've suggested they change something.

Infidel! Off with his head, burn his home, salt the earth, take his goats and his women!

[BlackAlpha 12]

Zombies are pretty badly designed in this mod, in my opinion. They are no fun to fight against. They form no challange. They are annoying. The only reason why you should use stealth is so that you don't have to bother with the annoyance of zombies chasing you, while you are running backwards and shooting them.

But it should not be that way. Shooting zombies should be fun. Many games make it fun, so why can this mod not do the same?

To change that, make zombies do damage while they are running, so that the players can't use backpaddle tactics, which make you invulnerable against zombies. Then we can turn the zombies into something more realistic that does not run and turn at warp speed. Zombies will be very dangerous when they get close, so to compensate, make them a bit slower. This should make it more fun to shoot them and they will actually be dangerous when they get close.

[Turin (DayZ) 3]

While I agree that it's perhaps a bit too convenient to try and crawl past zombies instead of killing them, isn't that kind of how it SHOULD be in this game?

This is supposed to be a hardcore zombie survival sim, not an arcade game where it's fun shooting up hordes of zombies.

Think about it. If you're a survivor and need to search a town swarming for zombies in order to get supplies, you're not going to think "it'll be fun clearing this town". Your first instinct will be to try and use stealth to avoid the zombies.

[BlackAlpha 12]

While I agree that it's perhaps a bit too convenient to try and crawl past zombies instead of killing them' date=' isn't that kind of how it SHOULD be in this game?

This is supposed to be a hardcore zombie survival sim, not an arcade game where it's fun shooting up hordes of zombies.

Think about it. If you're a survivor and need to search a town swarming for zombies in order to get supplies, you're not going to think "it'll be fun clearing this town". Your first instinct will be to try and use stealth to avoid the zombies.

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If this is a hardcore zombie survival sim and we start applying realism, then zombies should move slower and we should be able to clear a town of zombies, quite easily in fact, unless a zombie horde shows up, which never happens in this mod.

[walrus2517 27]

...snip..

To change that' date=' make zombies do damage while they are running, so that the players can't use backpaddle tactics, which make you invulnerable against zombies. Then we can turn the zombies into something more realistic that does not run and turn at warp speed. Zombies will be very dangerous when they get close, so to compensate, make them a bit slower. This should make it more fun to shoot them and they will actually be dangerous when they get close.

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I believe since 1.7.1 you can't really outrun zombies anymore. They can catch you and do damage even at full speed with your back to them.

[BlessedHeretic 1]

While I agree that it's perhaps a bit too convenient to try and crawl past zombies instead of killing them' date=' isn't that kind of how it SHOULD be in this game?

This is supposed to be a hardcore zombie survival sim, not an arcade game where it's fun shooting up hordes of zombies.

Think about it. If you're a survivor and need to search a town swarming for zombies in order to get supplies, you're not going to think "it'll be fun clearing this town". Your first instinct will be to try and use stealth to avoid the zombies.

[/quote']

If this is a hardcore zombie survival sim and we start applying realism, then zombies should move slower and we should be able to clear a town of zombies, quite easily in fact, unless a zombie horde shows up, which never happens in this mod.

Why should infected people be slower? Although I think everyone can agree the respawn times right now are very wonky.

[Syndikos 0]

It's zombie survival, not zombie killing. It's actually smarter not to try and mow down zombies with your limited ammo supply.

[pazuzu 9]

While I agree that it's perhaps a bit too convenient to try and crawl past zombies instead of killing them' date=' isn't that kind of how it SHOULD be in this game?

This is supposed to be a hardcore zombie survival sim, not an arcade game where it's fun shooting up hordes of zombies.

Think about it. If you're a survivor and need to search a town swarming for zombies in order to get supplies, you're not going to think "it'll be fun clearing this town". Your first instinct will be to try and use stealth to avoid the zombies.

[/quote']

I couldn't agree more. It takes me right out of the game when I see some halfwit running around provoking the zombies just so they can ditch them and get their hands on a weapon real quick.

On the other hand, this is a sandbox game and people should be allowed to do what they like. I just wonder if they give a thought to how they effect the game for other players.

[Tigerr13 1]

To start off let me just say this. I know the game is supposed to be hard. I commend and respect it because of this.

But when youve got a horde of zombies in front of you and the only real option is to crawl or avoid them it just takes the fun out of killing them. Right now I feel there is to much risk in killing the zombies.

Iv been trying to think how I would make them better if not more fun to shoot and clear out towns "fun".

Iv thought of 3 ways I would do this by

1. Less runners. Make Fast zombies a much more "rare" spawn. Not remove them just not every zombie will haul ass and get right in your face.

2. Zombies have a slower attack speed/longer "wait" time. Fast zombies would have the same attack speed as they do now. So while you are fighting them the slower shamblers will have time to get up on you.

3. Once a town is clear of zombies maybe they spawn more on the outskirts of town and try to get back in. A varation of this would be to have a more central spawn point for zombies and not let them spawn all over the place(all the time. It should still happen' date=' just not 100% random)

What do you guys think about the zombies and/or how would you change them?

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You mean there shouldn't be a massive amount of risk when attacking a horde of zombies? Go play L4D.