Kneecapping newbies

[Never 237]

You're an idiot. People didn't kill new spawns for the beans or makarov ammo. It was target practice' date=' hunting the most dangerous game. That or griefers who play purely to fuck up your day. Not a "waste of bullets."

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Hahahaha oh my god really? Killing newly spawned players is 'hunting the most dangerous game'? That's absolutely priceless. Also, the bean thing was clearly a joke. And if you're using new spawns as 'target practice' that pretty much makes you one of those griefers because there's absolutely no reason to shoot them. I mean come on man, if you're going to call someone stupid try looking in the mirror first.

You misread that, seemingly on purpose.

What he obviously means is players = the most dangerous game.

Player move differently to zeds, can take cover, react in totally unexpected ways etc etc. Even shooting unarmed players is actually a wise move. Helps you get you eye in. Its also arguably a dickmove, but its not without its purpose.

[osiriszoran 33]

OP is retarded. He'll prolly get killed going near electro/Cherno in his attempt to grief lowbies.

Or hell DC like a boss.

[Syndikos 0]

In a world with no consequences, there will be douchebags. This is what it'll probably be like in a real zombie apocalypse. people running around shooting other people for no reason. that's part of the survival.

[psycho84 0]

You're an idiot. People didn't kill new spawns for the beans or makarov ammo. It was target practice' date=' hunting the most dangerous game. That or griefers who play purely to fuck up your day. Not a "waste of bullets."

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Hahahaha oh my god really? Killing newly spawned players is 'hunting the most dangerous game'? That's absolutely priceless. Also, the bean thing was clearly a joke. And if you're using new spawns as 'target practice' that pretty much makes you one of those griefers because there's absolutely no reason to shoot them. I mean come on man, if you're going to call someone stupid try looking in the mirror first.

You misread that, seemingly on purpose.

What he obviously means is players = the most dangerous game.

Player move differently to zeds, can take cover, react in totally unexpected ways etc etc. Even shooting unarmed players is actually a wise move. Helps you get you eye in. Its also arguably a dickmove, but its not without its purpose.

mmm, nah.

There isn't anything dangerous about an oblivious enemy, AI or Human. Calling them "the most dangerous game" is just another one of those lines on the list of ways to justify actions. It's cool, everyone justifies their actions.

"It was target practice, hunting the most dangerous game." Case in point. You wanna use the term "most dangerous game" in this mod then go look for it, it ain't guy on the beach with torches or people being chansed by zombies lol. Hardcore my arse :P

ZOMGCAREBEAR

[kaffaljidhma 1]

wait how is a weaponless person who can't harm you in any way the most dangerous game

seems like they'd be the least dangerous game to me

[racecar 0]

MAN is the most dangerous game. Read a book, jeez.

[Never 237]

MAN is the most dangerous game. Read a book' date=' jeez.

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Init.

[Macenzie 79]

The more greifers patroling the coast, the faster newbies will learn to get the fuck away from the coast.

[TonyStarks 2]

Isn't it obvious? The lack of any way to defend yourself when you spawn means that griefing is easier than ever before.

Ah yes, the classic "killing freshly, unarmed survivors" argument. Gotta love those.

Yeah sure, never mind the endless hunt for better loot because staying in one place and killing newly spawned survivors is so much fun! Never mind that freshly spawned survivors don't have anything worth a damn on them. Never mind that you would be wasting precious ammo for nothing. Never mind that you would have to eat and drink. Never mind that you would attract hordes of aggro zeds with your big mean, intimidating machine gun.

The same people who bring up this totally stupid, dumb red herring of an argument must be the same that were part of the makarov survivor spamming on shore epidemic. Either that or they just started playing yesterday and think things were better with spawning weapons.

You don't have any idea, ANY IDEA, how frustrating those makaroni knights were. No idea.

[flevius 1]

Isn't it obvious? The lack of any way to defend yourself when you spawn means that griefing is easier than ever before.

Ah yes' date=' the classic "killing freshly, unarmed survivors" argument. Gotta love those.

Yeah sure, never mind the endless hunt for better loot because staying in one place and killing newly spawned survivors is so much fun! Never mind that freshly spawned survivors don't have anything worth a damn on them. Never mind that you would be wasting precious ammo for nothing. Never mind that you would have to eat and drink. Never mind that you would attract hordes of aggro zeds with your big mean, intimidating machine gun.

The same people who bring up this totally stupid, dumb red herring of an argument must be the same that were part of the makarov survivor spamming on shore epidemic. Either that or they just started playing yesterday and think things were better with spawning weapons.

You don't have any idea, ANY IDEA, how frustrating those makaroni knights were. No idea.

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How does making people spawn without a gun make them less frustrating? The folks who would take their newbie gear into cherno or electro and try to gear up by killing someone with better stuff will just find a gun first and do the same thing now. I don't have a problem with people spawning without a weapon; I just think it opens up the possibility of hilarious situations like hatchet wielding maniacs patrolling the coast.

As far as the rest of your argument though, once you're geared up you don't really need to go on an "endless hunt for better loot." Ammo is hardly precious when you can refill your mags by relogging. Right now, you attract about the same number of hordes crawling slowly through an area as running and firing your gun - but running you at least have a chance to lose them before they smack you once and make you start spurting blood. You'll have to eat and drink no matter where you are, and the coastal towns are just as good a place to keep yourself fed and watered as anywhere else.

[allbusiness 5]

Isn't it obvious? The lack of any way to defend yourself when you spawn means that griefing is easier than ever before.

Ah yes' date=' the classic "killing freshly, unarmed survivors" argument. Gotta love those.

Yeah sure, never mind the endless hunt for better loot because staying in one place and killing newly spawned survivors is so much fun! Never mind that freshly spawned survivors don't have anything worth a damn on them. Never mind that you would be wasting precious ammo for nothing. Never mind that you would have to eat and drink. Never mind that you would attract hordes of aggro zeds with your big mean, intimidating machine gun.

The same people who bring up this totally stupid, dumb red herring of an argument must be the same that were part of the makarov survivor spamming on shore epidemic. Either that or they just started playing yesterday and think things were better with spawning weapons.

You don't have any idea, ANY IDEA, how frustrating those makaroni knights were. No idea.

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Same guy who said Zeds were perfectly fine despite the fact that Rocket was making numerous adjustments to their behavior because it was plainly obvious that they weren't working as intended.

Two, geared players who have nothing better to do up North go down South all the time to kill newbies for shits and giggles. Want to know why? Because they have player groups where they don't even care if they die, and have ridiculous amount of gear on off map locations that no one knows about. They don't "run" out of ammunition, they come down South with 8+ mags of whatever their primary is, and just hose down newbs for shits and giggles.

People like you are exactly the people Rocket was talking about in his thread. The same elitist fags that always go on and on about how everyone else is a fucking retard, a CoD kiddie, a WoW nerd, etc. The no spawn with weapons is counter intuitive; why the fuck would you ever group up with someone when neither of you have weapons, especially against Zeds with super vision and super hearing? There is absolutely no point at all. Bringing an extra person would only create more noise, and more visibility for the Zeds to spot you, not to mention attract more attention from Bandits/Pkers.

Three, it's not a red herring argument, because I am one of those assholes that camp the shoreline with billions of ammunition because I play with a group and we have our hidden stashes scattered across servers, etc. It's even easier to plow through newbs now, because you can actually utilize just simple to find 1911 mags and just gun them down since they can't do shit to yohu now. You can do more hilarious things like utilizing crossbows, hatchets, and all other useless PvP weapons rather than expending your primary weapon. The only reason why you use the primary weapon is because the newb actually managed to pick up either a Makarov, a Winchester, or an Enfield.

It's actually blatantly obvious you never reach end game or are just bad. When people could fly helicopters, people would fly that bitch around the coastline and just hose newbs down. It's happened, and it's been well documented all across youtube that most people that go to the coastline with military grade weaponry do so because they do it for shits and giggles, not because of food and water.

There is ZERO reason to cooperate with anyone at the moment. None. You don't have supplies to help each other apart from bandages (which are easy as fuck to find anyways, and if you get hit by a Zed before you have a weapon, you're better off just respawning). At least before, if you manage to get the other guy to not shoot you, you'd have an extra gun watching your back. Right now, the second guy is more likely to get you killed by attracting too much attention than actually help you in some form or fashion.

Think about it realistically. Why the fuck would I want to team up with someone who doesn't have the ability to really help me out? He doesn't have a gun, he has minimal medical supplies, and he has only enough food for himself and no water. In a Zombie Apocalypse, I wouldn't fucking team up with that guy because he's got shit, and he can't help me and is more likely to get me killed than actually be an asset to me.