Kneecapping newbies

[flevius 1]

I'm not a bandit, and the only murders I've gotten have been self defense against poor shots, but with the new system of people spawning with no gun and no morphine, I'm REALLY tempted to head to the beach and shoot people in the leg so they have to burn their 1 bandage and crawl until they find morphine.

[clever 12]

Your point is?

[dogmachines 0]

Your point is?

Isn't it obvious? The lack of any way to defend yourself when you spawn means that griefing is easier than ever before.

[bad_mojo (DayZ) 1204]

Your point is?

I think he expects us to respond with...

NOOOO! Don't dude! That'll hurt the noobies! OMG it's people like you that r ruining this game!

THIS IS WHY WE NEED OUR PEA SHOOTER BACK!!!

but instead i'll just say..

Hope I don't respawn near you, and have fun!

[flevius 1]

Your point is?

I think he expects us to respond with...

NOOOO! Don't dude! That'll hurt the noobies! OMG it's people like you that r ruining this game!

THIS IS WHY WE NEED OUR PEA SHOOTER BACK!!!

but instead i'll just say..

Hope I don't respawn near you' date=' and have fun!

[/quote']

No, I was hoping for you to respond with "lol." In my wildest fantasies, I imagined someone posting a fraps video of putting the plan into action. I guess I'll have to settle for people thinking it was deep social commentary on the state of the game, when all it really is is an idea that made me chuckle.

[Latros 1]

I bumped into a guy on my last spawn both weaponless we said hi, he asked where we were, I informed him.. then we comenced to bitching about how bad a spawn location was... but then he made a awesome idea...

spawn with the Mak and a random number of bullets 0-6.. could be nice :) spawn with just the 1bullet... or 0.. and you never know what the other guy has... is wasting your 1 bullet worth chancing on another spawner? I liked his idea.

[agathangalos 0]

Anyone with a brain would just respawn if you did this to them, so you'd just be wasting bullets unless you planned on killing them. Even then, since they don't even have BEANS now, you're still wasting bullets.

[validfrom 2]

And then they just simply hit respawn. It's not really a big deal.

[septuscap 42]

It's also immensely fun to shoot some one who's being chased by zeds. He's bleeding but can't bandage b/c he's being chased by zeds.

I don't particularly search out opportunities to grief people, but if something is comical in and of itself (like shooting some one in the leg while he's trying to outrun a pack of zombies), his grief won't even come into my decision-making process.

I've definitely seen griefing explode though, now that new spawns have no guns. Coast is littered with corpses. Some good loot to be had by nicking snipers in the back.

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Anyone with a brain would just respawn if you did this to them' date=' so you'd just be wasting bullets unless you planned on killing them. Even then, since they don't even have BEANS now, you're still wasting bullets.

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You're an idiot. People didn't kill new spawns for the beans or makarov ammo. It was target practice, hunting the most dangerous game. That or griefers who play purely to fuck up your day. Not a "waste of bullets."

[JeffCraig 1]

I've definitely seen griefing explode though' date=' now that new spawns have no guns. Coast is littered with corpses. Some good loot to be had by nicking snipers in the back.

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Anyone with a brain would just respawn if you did this to them' date=' so you'd just be wasting bullets unless you planned on killing them. Even then, since they don't even have BEANS now, you're still wasting bullets.

[/quote']

You're an idiot. People didn't kill new spawns for the beans or makarov ammo. It was target practice, hunting the most dangerous game. That or griefers who play purely to fuck up your day. Not a "waste of bullets."

Yeah. not sure why Dean didn't see this coming...

I've never been a griefer in any game, but for some reason I'm really tempted to start in DayZ. Maybe its just my frustration at the recent changes... idk. What I do know is that no-one will be able to do anything about it. You got no gunz, lolz!

[logan23 118]

I bumped into a guy on my last spawn both weaponless we said hi' date=' he asked where we were, I informed him.. then we comenced to bitching about how bad a spawn location was... but then he made a awesome idea...

spawn with the Mak and a random number of bullets 0-6.. could be nice :) spawn with just the 1bullet... or 0.. and you never know what the other guy has... is wasting your 1 bullet worth chancing on another spawner? I liked his idea.

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One problem with that idea is this-

Player spawns with gun and 1 bullet,... Looks sad and says oh wait I will simply "click respawn" - and see if I get more bullets this time. Players keep re spawning to get that magic full or almost full clip. This a belive causes issues with whole repeat re spawn thing. Players will do this.

Another problem is-

Player A who has a starting gun with 0 bullets- sees player B who has Revolver

Player A thinks oh this protects me. I might have 0-6 bullets.

Player B shots player A dead.

-players see a gun as a threat, they don't think how Many bullets you have.

Player B notices played A had 0 bullets. " oh if I knew he was un armed I wouldn't have shot him, it's not fault , he had a gun"

Players over all will at least stop and think if they see you un armed.

Plus you would probably ended up in a gun fight with the guy you were talk to if he was armed. Think about it.

[Muffgamp 0]

Not a big deal, they just should stop assuming that cherno/elektro are the only places on the map. Move up north, find a farm for easy lee enfield. Just seems like such a stupid instinct to run along the coastline.

[Naykon (DayZ) 25]

I think it's a good move, allows newbs to team up more without the fear of a makarov to the head from each other

[EnermaX 59]

Anyone with a brain would just respawn if you did this to them' date=' so you'd just be wasting bullets unless you planned on killing them. Even then, since they don't even have BEANS now, you're still wasting bullets.

[/quote']

Stop trying, they don't get it. They just kill because of their personal complexes.

[duddbudda 33]

They just kill because of their personal complexes

and you don't kill because of your personal complexes

hooray, everyone is mentally ill

[Never 237]

Yeah. not sure why Dean didn't see this coming...

A lot of people pointed this out clearly in his vote thread. But we got drowned out by the self-proclaimed 'hardcore' crew and the PKers that were drooling over the idea.

[underscore 12]

A lot of people pointed this out clearly in his vote thread. But we got drowned out by the self-proclaimed 'hardcore' crew and the PKers that were drooling over the idea.

Yesssss... indeed.... everything continues according to plan. And, the best part? Because the majority of players (respawns) in the most frequently trafficked areas of the game (the coast) will no longer be armed, the murder rates will decrease significantly. People with no understanding of statistics and their misuses will hail the new mechanic as brilliantly successful.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

A lot of people pointed this out clearly in his vote thread. But we got drowned out by the self-proclaimed 'hardcore' crew and the PKers that were drooling over the idea.

Hey guys' date=' maybe we should wait and see if the thing you're bitching about actually fucking happens since you're basing this entire discussion on the OP's conjecture of kind of possibly being maybe tempted to do something he hasn't actually fucking done yet.

Maybe you should open your fucking mind like rocket suggested. Shut the fuck up on the forums and go play the fucking game and see what actually happens instead of sitting here making up a bunch of stories about what you THINK is going to happen and then masturbating over how you KNEW it was going to go that way already.

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And' date=' the best part? Because the majority of players (respawns) in the most frequently trafficked areas of the game (the coast) will no longer be armed, the murder rates will decrease significantly. People with no understanding of statistics and their misuses will hail the new mechanic as brilliantly successful.

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I'm confused. How is that not successful? Teach me, oh master of statistics. I'm getting (maybe) killed slightly more often by bandits who don't mind wasting ammo, and FAR less often by desperate new survivors just out for a thrill.

So... that's a good thing, right? I mean. How is that not a good thing?

[Virfortis 111]

Anonymity + Gun = Griefing

That's how the internet rolls, and that's why DayZ will be nothing more than a persistent shooter. Couple that with the fact that every update to this point has done nothing but make these griefers more powerful, and it's pretty clear to see that DayZ isn't meant to be played by anyone that has any different kind of fun.

Direct Communication only helps a little bit, as anyone willing to talk generally isn't going to shoot, but soon that will change and people will setup B-list movie level traps for more "lulz" to be had. Soon the players that actually made DayZ a living, breathing experience will quit and give way to the mass of bandits who would be perfectly fine with no chat at all.

[drayson 158]

Before patch if I was on the coast I shot everyone I noticed and looted the corpse cause I knew they would at least have makarov rounds or food/water. Now if I spot someone on the coast I study them a bit to see if they have a pack I need or a weapon I have and might have more ammo. I went from 100% shoot on sight to mostly 20% shoot on sight when I see goodies.

[Hostile (DayZ) 0]

Well, I did shot someone in the leg today.

I was looting and killing people in the Elektro, went into some red brick house for some random looting, then some guy without anything went in there with me, he was looting another room.

After noticing his presence I walked up to him and told him "GET THE FUCK OUT FROM HERE, OR I WILL SHOT YOUR SORRY ASS" (He was proning around all the time).

He looked at me, after few seconds of silence and started proning back.

Told him to "RUN ! STOP PRONING, START RUNNING!!!"

He was still proning, so I said "You've got 5 seconds to start running, or I will shot you!", he didn't listen and I did shot him ... in the knee. After that shot he tried to get up but he felt down ... He tried this like 4 times and I was just standing there and looking at that pathetic attempt to run... I was stunned actually... stunned by laugh.

I don't know if he bled to death, I don't think so, as I didn't receive any "score" for him, neither did he disconnect... I bet he is now crawling around Elektro without legs, that makes me smile :) .

[Shrapnel1 2]

You are extremely boring and uncreative...

[underscore 12]

I'm confused. How is that not successful? Teach me' date=' oh master of statistics. I'm getting (maybe) killed slightly more often by bandits who don't mind wasting ammo, and FAR less often by desperate new survivors just out for a thrill.

So... that's a good thing, right? I mean. How is that not a good thing?

[/quote']

Mais, oui. Yes, it's a good thing. Like I said, everything is going according to plan. Please disregard the remainder of my previous post. Nothing to see here; move along, folks.

[flevius 1]

My other nefarious scheme is to get a train of zeds, run them to a spawn spot, and then lose line of sight so they stand around there. Unfortunately, I'm camped with 4k blood, no water, no bandages, and bleeding like a stuck pig since on top of doing more damage, the very first bitchslap you get from a zombie now makes you fountain blood. So the coast is safe from my predations until I get a friend to come to where I camped with bandages and water after the hotfix and save me...plus an extra few minutes for me to find a crowbar or hatchet to do the deed with!

[agathangalos 0]

You're an idiot. People didn't kill new spawns for the beans or makarov ammo. It was target practice' date=' hunting the most dangerous game. That or griefers who play purely to fuck up your day. Not a "waste of bullets."

[/quote']

Hahahaha oh my god really? Killing newly spawned players is 'hunting the most dangerous game'? That's absolutely priceless. Also, the bean thing was clearly a joke. And if you're using new spawns as 'target practice' that pretty much makes you one of those griefers because there's absolutely no reason to shoot them. I mean come on man, if you're going to call someone stupid try looking in the mirror first.