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Its so hard to do anything now when you have been killed and you respawn. I relise that it is supposed to be hyper-realistic. But how are you suposed to defend your self agisnt zombies now. You dont start of with a gun. I mean the food/water is esay-ish to find but you really need to start of with a gun ammo and a water bottle? Who agrees with me? I know its a alpha mod but t does not exclude the fact it is near impossable to defened your self at the beach now from zombies. And the bandits that come to the beach and go player hunting can just kill you as you dont even have a chances as you have no gun.

Can someone explain why these changes have been made as it is not fun any more as it is so impossable. :exclamation:

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^ Some people suggested it, they decided that it would be an interesting idea so put it in the patch to see if it would work, from my perspective it hasn't worked and i would expect it will be modified in the future.

I think that the combination of improving zombies senses and decreasing our ability to fight back makes it WAY to hard to sneak into a town and get a gun, one of these things could of been fine but both seems to much to me.

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Or maybe if they could introduce a certain melee weapon system and give us a shovel or something. I'm for the realistic idea of the game, but even if most people don't have a gun with them, they should be able to defend themselves against 1 or 2 zeds rather easily...

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Use stealth or if you are caught use the LOS system to lose the trail. It's harder but it's almost a lot more fun.

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YA both of them are good. I mean i have no prob with the zombie AI but the spawn rate needs to be tweak a bit so vet server have more and esay server have less then what they do now. I think you need a starter gun thou or you have no chnces with the spawn rate and no gun.

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Why should you fear bandits if you have no weapon that you could loose?

Also you don't have to defend yourself against zombies, if you don't alert them in the first place.

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Why should you fear bandits if you have no weapon that you could loose?

Also you don't have to defend yourself against zombies' date=' if you don't alert them in the first place.

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Ya but it the fact that you have to create a new guy as some bandits spawn killing :L. Plus i think a gun is need as You do need some form of defences as there is no point of collecting food till you have a gun as you can not protect it ? I mean do you understand were am coming from ?

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Players without guns = Free bandaid, painkillers & "torch". XD

I have yet to test the new patch. I'm fine with no weapon at the start. If you are careful and know where to look, it's not hard to find a gun (Unless your new to the game, then it may be discouraging enough for them to lose interest). I'm just worried about what I hear about the zombies. From what I read, they seem a little OP right now, but like I said, I need to test it myself.

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Its so hard to do anything now when you have been killed and you respawn. I relise that it is supposed to be hyper-realistic. But how are you suposed to defend your self agisnt zombies now. You dont start of with a gun. I mean the food/water is esay-ish to find but you really need to start of with a gun ammo and a water bottle? Who agrees with me? I know its a alpha mod but t does not exclude the fact it is near impossable to defened your self at the beach now from zombies. And the bandits that come to the beach and go player hunting can just kill you as you dont even have a chances as you have no gun.

Can someone explain why these changes have been made as it is not fun any more as it is so impossable. :exclamation:

Yes is not even possible to find a weapon' date=' or have FUN... yes i'm one of those people who plays for fun

Or maybe if they could introduce a certain melee weapon system and give us a shovel or something. I'm for the realistic idea of the game, but even if most people don't have a gun with them, they should be able to defend themselves against 1 or 2 zeds rather easily...

I realy like this idea, but I heard that with the engine of Arma 2 is difficult make melee

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Players without gun = less dangerous to others

Players without other supplies = less of a target.

You're safer this way.

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Bandits are probably not going to spawnkill anymore, because it wouldn't even be worth the bullets. But for all the fun players, I think the feeling you get when you finally find an enfield or a winchester is much more intense if you spawn without a weapon.

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Why should you fear bandits if you have no weapon that you could loose?

Also you don't have to defend yourself against zombies' date=' if you don't alert them in the first place.

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Ya but it the fact that you have to create a new guy as some bandits spawn killing :L. Plus i think a gun is need as You do need some form of defences as there is no point of collecting food till you have a gun as you can not protect it ? I mean do you understand were am coming from ?

Guns are everywhere. I also have no idea about the bandits, I've only found friendlies so far on the coast since the new update. The trick to this update is to no engage but to avoid and look for opportunities. I don't get why people are so distraught about this, I died, found an enfield after sneaking past some zombies in cherno and was well on my way.

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Bandits are probably not going to spawnkill anymore' date=' because it wouldn't even be worth the bullets. But for all the fun players, I think the feeling you get when you finally find an enfield or a winchester is much more intense if you spawn without a weapon.

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Ok but you don't even have the chance to find a winchester or enfield because you die first...

Even if you crawl they see you, at least one way to defend yourself whe you spawn is needed to have fun

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