ahorseofcourse 22 Posted June 17, 2012 Alot of you are getting pretty irate, and it is becoming increasingly clear who the arma vets are and who the new people are. Rocket has truly given us something groundbreaking here and I, along with many others, really don't want this game to become a victim of it's decreasingly helpful community. This game will only get better with time, many of you do not see this. I could spout off "ALPHA" until i'm blue in the face but 75% of the time it falls on deaf ears. This game is a work in progress, and each time i read some prepubescent post about how Rocket is messing up the game i become more and more worried that Rocket will lose interest in this project. Obviously nobody wants that, we're all here because we know this game is great, but this blanket of negativity that has come over many of you DOES affect how others perceive things, whether it's a new player or a developer.There are Suggestion and bug reporting forums on this board. Use them. They will improve this game, not a long winded rant that only demeans the intention of this project. If you see a bug, or randomly lose your gear, or your gun turns into a garden hose, post maturely about it. These game-issues are not made on purpose and can/will be fixed. If something is drastically changed in the game, maybe try and consider the reasoning for it. Many people don't own guns, for example. Spawning without one, in addition to the newly added ability to get away from zombies that are chasing you makes PERFECT sense, all the while catering to the hardcore theme of the game. As for you, Rocket. You've created a great game here, I just wanted you to know that many of us trust in your ability, despite the few that are louder than most. I have alot of games on my plate right now, but i haven't played any of them in months (I have logged 45 minutes into diablo 3, for example, which was purchased at launch). Don't let them make you lose focus, you are very rapidly becoming one of the most prolific modders in existence and I look forward to the future of this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benjamina 1 Posted June 17, 2012 His efforts are amazing, dude. No-one's disputing that. In-fact people are up in arms BECAUSE they love the game so much.Rocket's trying to shift the onus of the game from a PvP game in a zombie environment, into a zombie/creeper game with a small PvP element. But he's not given anything to replace the PvP, nothing to placate the pk'ers or PvP'ers. And he's listening to the wrong people. The majority of this forum want an Amnesia experience in a zombie post apocalypse. And seem to do not a lot more than agreeing with rocket and towing the line. Which is a shame.. Unfortunately that doesn't represent the majority of actual players, who play it because of it's <1.7.1 style of gameplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pogoman979 4 Posted June 17, 2012 I would just stop posting on these forums, make the alpha private to a small group of testers and tell everyone to go fuck themselves.Seriously, stop acting like spoilt brats; rocket doesn't owe you shit.You bought Arma2 to play DayZ? Thats great, but rocket didn't get a dime of your money, BI and the retailers got it all. He doesn't work for BI, he sometimes contracts with them. They are not paying him a salary. This is a mod. rocket could shut down the project entirely, and there would be nothing anyone could do about it.NONE OF YOU ARE ENTITLED TO ANYTHING.So if you want to help the project, stop spamming the forums with your temper tantrums, and POST CONTRUCTIVELY.One patch with a few serious bugs doesn't mean the end of this game. rocket already stated there will be a hotfix within 48 hours.The fact that some of you are directly insulting rocket for one glitchy patch that he pushed out on 2 days without sleep because of everyones incessant whining makes me sick.If you can't go 2 days without your precious DayZ because it is bugged then you need to take a step back, and re-evaluate your life because i can tell you right now: YOUR LIFE IS FUCKING PATHETIC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBloodworth 1 Posted June 17, 2012 His efforts are amazing' date=' dude. No-one's disputing that. In-fact people are up in arms BECAUSE they love the game so much.Rocket's trying to shift the onus of the game from a PvP game in a zombie environment, into a zombie/creeper game with a small PvP element. But he's not given anything to replace the PvP, nothing to placate the pk'ers or PvP'ers. And he's listening to the wrong people. The majority of this forum wand an Amnesia experience in a zombie post apocalypse. Unfortunately that doesn't represent the majority of actual players, who play it because of it's <1.7.1 style of gameplay.[/quote']QFT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulShaper2 243 Posted June 17, 2012 Now first of all, i know its buggy and its almost killed me 3 times already due to glitches (i currently have a broken leg and no morphine since everything in backpack went) But. I do like the way the patch is going, me and my friend where talking (he just respawned) and we liked the fact that you had no gun! who starts with one irl anyway? and this should hopefully stop CoD players killing on sight and the ones that dont agree with it but are not CoD players (yes they do exist!) should hopefully bare with it for the long run! But i also like the fact its more about sneaking, if we could fix the zombies a little more then that would be perfect, and im happy for the time being as it is in alpha and Rocket is doing this because he wants to so im grateful. if your not then quietly leave, and when you think its more to your taste, just sneak back in the fire exit and we wont judge! Well i wont.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreak One 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Good feedback, I agree 100%. Now to get that god damn song out of my head! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulShaper2 243 Posted June 17, 2012 Sorry no can do! and besides type that song in chat and your bound to get someone to help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catstyle (DayZ) 6 Posted June 17, 2012 Same here, forgot diablo 3 even existed (along with many other games) the second I managed to get my eyes on Dayz in a random forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekdrake 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Fun fact; even though your capitalistic morals have taught you differently, a large part of any entertainment belongs to the community just as much as it belongs to the creators.Also, you don't have to suck up to Rocket. Nobody has to stand for bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pstar 1 Posted June 17, 2012 implying OP doesn't want to be one of those private testers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xls.akm@gmail.com 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Sad thing is this is probably how its going to end up cause of all spoiled brats. Why even bother doing this for FREE when all you get is people raging and isulting you for whatever you do? Rocket deserves alot more then this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossShade 4 Posted June 17, 2012 Sad thing is this is probably how its going to end up cause of all spoiled brats. Why even bother doing this for FREE when all you get is people raging and isulting you for whatever you do? Rocket deserves alot more then this.Exactly where did you get that it's PROBABLY going to end up like that?Oh wait it's another guy that is Pro-rocket anti-alpha but keeps stating it's an alpha that just makes up shit on the spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qbert 4 Posted June 17, 2012 One would assume that if he really felt abused by the community and it was genuinely hostile towards him, that he'd probably stop interacting. The fact that he's been interacting with us shows that he gives a shit and most likely enjoys the time he's spent on the mod and on the forums.Also having it private with a limited amount of testers would be counter productive to the mod, as it's main attraction is the interaction with other players, and how the player characters are managed for persistence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allbusiness 5 Posted June 17, 2012 The reason why Rocket pushed out the patch was because of the incessant whining by "fanboys" (not hardcore players) that they wanted extreme back breaking and unrealistic gameplay that was difficult and tedious, not challenging. Proning literally everywhere is not challenging or logical at all; it's difficult and tedious. There's a huge difference too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekdrake 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Rocket doesn't actually know what he's doing. He started out to make a generic Zombie game, and almost by accident got MUCH more than that, in no small part due to the PvP.Stealth, Survival and Anarchy are Day Z's true themes, whether Rocket admits this or not. Zombies are just a side feature.However, 1.7.1 has completely damaged this system.-Stealth is no longer an option. Zombies have gone from a dangerous minefield that must be cleverly traversed according to the situation, to a nearly unavoidable and mandatory confrontation. -In the long run, this also eliminates PvP related stealth, as everyone will UNDOUBTEDLY develop a run n' gun nature from the new LoS and aggro zombie mechanics, that is bound to be carried over to PvP as well. In short PvP is about to become a lot more in-your-face, as NOBODY is going to bother trying to track someone down through a town and get them by surprise, since it's impossible to do that AND try to manage this ultra-realism aggro.Rather, from now on, expect more random deaths by getting sniped, and obnoxious players dashing through a town, causing a ruckus, and running up close to you to start a fire fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xls.akm@gmail.com 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Exactly where did you get that it's PROBABLY going to end up like that?Cause thats what most people would do when all you get is insults/rage after all his hard work to give you this FREE mod.Oh wait it's another guy that is Pro-rocket anti-alpha but keeps stating it's an alpha that just makes up shit on the spot.Pro-rocket anti-alpha? Sorry I got no idea what your saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandorski 17 Posted June 17, 2012 There's a reason why Developers usually don't read their own Forums.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepfried 95 Posted June 17, 2012 stop sucking upHe does have a point though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossShade 4 Posted June 17, 2012 Exactly where did you get that it's PROBABLY going to end up like that?Cause thats what most people would do when all you get is insults/rage after all his hard work to give you this FREE mod.Oh wait it's another guy that is Pro-rocket anti-alpha but keeps stating it's an alpha that just makes up shit on the spot.Pro-rocket anti-alpha? Sorry I got no idea what your saying.No, it's not what most people would do, most people would see, hey my job is now what I was doing just for fun, less work, more development, hey my reference is now going to be huge, any company would accept me.Hey, people are crying, I'M A DEVELOPER I'm used to it.Most people would not do what you said, again you're making shit up.If you believe that most people would close it down to a few when they have 200k+ users and growing, you have no idea how psychology works nor do you even have any common sense.Again, back to my original point, you're making shit up.Now quote me, and make more shit up please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
l mandrake 61 Posted June 17, 2012 :idea: These ranting trolls directing personal abuse at Rocket....they're too delusional to be for real....thinking they are more likely to be buttsore script kiddies trying to take revenge for getting banhammered. :idea: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xls.akm@gmail.com 0 Posted June 17, 2012 Exactly where did you get that it's PROBABLY going to end up like that?Cause thats what most people would do when all you get is insults/rage after all his hard work to give you this FREE mod.Oh wait it's another guy that is Pro-rocket anti-alpha but keeps stating it's an alpha that just makes up shit on the spot.Pro-rocket anti-alpha? Sorry I got no idea what your saying.No' date=' it's not what most people would do, most people would see, hey my job is now what I was doing just for fun, less work, more development, hey my reference is now going to be huge, any company would accept me.Hey, people are crying, I'M A DEVELOPER I'm used to it.Most people would not do what you said, again you're making shit up.If you believe that most people would close it down to a few when they have 200k+ users and growing, you have no idea how psychology works nor do you even have any common sense.Again, back to my original point, you're making shit up.Now quote me, and make more shit up please.[/quote']Not making shit up, expressing my opinions, huge difference. Yeah sure why wouldn't he close it down to a smaller group of testers? He isn't gaining any constructive criticism/feedback out of this, nor does he get any money out of it, all he get is hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tekdrake 0 Posted June 17, 2012 But i also like the fact its more about sneaking' date=' if we could fix the zombies a little more then that would be perfect, and im happy for the time being as it is in alpha and Rocket is doing this because he wants to so im grateful. if your not then quietly leave, and when you think its more to your taste, just sneak back in the fire exit and we wont judge! Well i wont....[/quote']AHHAHAHAAHA! Yeah no. How misinformed can you get? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yammazul 0 Posted June 17, 2012 I would just stop posting on these forums' date=' make the alpha private to a small group of testers and tell everyone to go fuck themselves.Seriously, stop acting like spoilt brats; rocket doesn't owe you shit.You bought Arma2 to play DayZ? Thats great, but rocket didn't get a dime of your money, BI and the retailers got it all. He doesn't work for BI, he sometimes contracts with them. They are not paying him a salary. This is a mod. rocket could shut down the project entirely, and there would be nothing anyone could do about it.NONE OF YOU ARE ENTITLED TO ANYTHING.So if you want to help the project, stop spamming the forums with your temper tantrums, and POST CONTRUCTIVELY.One patch with a few serious bugs doesn't mean the end of this game. rocket already stated there will be a hotfix within 48 hours.The fact that some of you are directly insulting rocket for one glitchy patch that he pushed out on 2 days without sleep because of everyones incessant whining makes me sick.If you can't go 2 days without your precious DayZ because it is bugged then you need to take a step back, and re-evaluate your life because i can tell you right now: YOUR LIFE IS FUCKING PATHETIC.[/quote']I'm pretty sure he works for them bro.P.S Y u mad?P.P.S Rocket is a grown-man, I'm sure he doesn't need you white knighting for him on his own forums :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UbiquitousBadGuy 846 Posted June 17, 2012 Threads merged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites