Waypoints and Zombie Movement

[selmack 7]

I saw this video

regarding waypoints. In the comments two things are mentioned. One, you have to be on a specific server and two, apparently there are two type of waypoints - one peope can see on map and another they can not.

Question: What specifically is the waypoint mentioned in the comment that another play can see which could give away your location? Is it still as simple as just clicking a waypoint to do as the video describes on map and still not be seem by other players? This could be so helpful to movement.

Question: I googled zombies http://www.dayzwiki.com/wiki/Zombies to determine the difference in regular and military zombies. I just appeared to me that military zombies moved so much faster than regular zombies. This page seems to just describe zombies in gereral. Maybe it it is just the sound but it sure seemed military zombies run up those outside stairs fast. Also, they really came at me inside the building.

They all do stop attacking when I run into a tree and just wait for them to leave without moving.

Has anyone else seen this with the zombies or know about the waypoint - map? I really don't want to be followed by a player seeing my map or attacked by zombies with my back turned because of a speed issue.

I will add this - I could run crouched forever from all regular zombies to this point and with crouched making less noice, they stopped running much quicker. A military zombie caught up in attacked me while run crouched and I had to stand up to get to the tree to hide.

One final thing - attacks - Do military zombies hit harder and do more damage than regular zombies or again are they just the same as non-military?

One final final thing: Map distance - without waypoints can someone give me a way to just distance on the map please?

Thanks!!!

Edited October 19, 2012 by selmack

[herrjon 478]

Dunno anything about the military zeds and if they're different at all, so I'll just talk navigation.

I think you're meaning map markers. It's just double click and a black X will appear which you can label. You'll only see it on your map or GPS, but the whole server can see them. I only use them if I feel like leaving friendly notes like where crashed helis are what they have. They method described in the video can only be seen by you.

For the distance bit, I'll introduce you to the wonderful world of coordinates. If you notice on your map, there are straight lines running side-to-side and up and down. There are also numbers in between these lines at the edges of the map. If there are three digits in these numbers, that means from one parrallel line to the other, it is 100m. When there's two digits, it 1,000m. From there you just figure out where you are and what place you want to go, do a little geometry, and there's your estimated distance. There's a DayZ GuideZ video that explains this a bit better, with visuals, I'll see if I can locate it.

Edit: Here it is

Edited October 19, 2012 by (TMW)HerrJon

[Sula 1205]

No, he means waypoints. When looking at a map, if you place your cursor where you want to mark, while holding down the left shift button, click your left mouse button, Lshift+LMB. The pale black circle that appears where you clicked is your waypoint. Only you can see it.

However, while holding down the Left Shift Button, if you double clicked your LMB instead, it turns into what looks like a hand written circle done with a black marker pen and you get a box to enter text too, such as "vehicle here" BUT everyone can see it. Often people set traps that way.

Yes, everyone knows about waypoints and marking the map. No idea about differences in speed for zombies or for levels of violence. Basically, they're all best avoided and can kill you with a single lucky swipe if your blood is low.

Never try to run when crouched if you've been spotted by a zombie - all zombies can catch you if you do that. If you're just running away then you can try a mix of hitting C, and X as and when you want to speed up or hide a little, and if using crouched running, find lots of cover by zigzagging around various walls, or find a bush or pine tree and go prone under it. Zombies seem to have an allergyy to them and wander off if you lie under one for long enough. Getting into a vehicle is also useful, even getting on a bicyle as the latest version of dayz seems to have confused them. They get bored and go docile. Of course, they'll still chase you if you drive/ride off but they won't attack. Though I'm sure that will be fixed come the next update.

Map distance - last time I timed it, it took me roughly 4 to 5 minutes to run 500 metres. About 9 minutes for a kilometre. I'm sure some will disagree.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

Edited October 19, 2012 by Sula

[selmack 7]

Dunno anything about the military zeds and if they're different at all, so I'll just talk navigation.

I think you're meaning map markers. It's just double click and a black X will appear which you can label. You'll only see it on your map or GPS, but the whole server can see them. I only use them if I feel like leaving friendly notes like where crashed helis are what they have. They method described in the video can only be seen by you.

For the distance bit, I'll introduce you to the wonderful world of coordinates. If you notice on your map, there are straight lines running side-to-side and up and down. There are also numbers in between these lines at the edges of the map. If there are three digits in these numbers, that means from one parrallel line to the other, it is 100m. When there's two digits, it 1,000m. From there you just figure out where you are and what place you want to go, do a little geometry, and there's your estimated distance. There's a DayZ GuideZ video that explains this a bit better, with visuals, I'll see if I can locate it.

Edit: Here it is

Great video!!! I have wanted to test my current rifle for distance but had no idea how to start. As far as marking a map - then apparently you can double left click or shift-right click. The double click will appear but the shift-right click will not.

As far as setting a specific point on the map you want to save - like where you hid you tents so you can easily get back without memory - I am guess mark an offline map.

Thank so much - extremely helpful!!!

[selmack 7]

No, he means waypoints. When looking at a map, if you place your cursor where you want to mark, while holding down the left shift button, click your left mouse button, Lshift+LMB. The pale black circle that appears where you clicked is your waypoint. Only you can see it.

However, while holding down the Left Shift Button, if you double clicked your LMB instead, it turns into what looks like a hand written circle done with a black marker pen and you get a box to enter text too, such as "vehicle here" BUT everyone can see it. Often people set traps that way.

Yes, everyone knows about waypoints and marking the map. No idea about differences in speed for zombies or for levels of violence. Basically, they're all best avoided and can kill you with a single lucky swipe if your blood is low.

Never try to run when crouched if you've been spotted by a zombie - all zombies can catch you if you do that. If you're just running away then you can try a mix of hitting C, and X as and when you want to speed up or hide a little, and if using crouched running, find lots of cover by zigzagging around various walls, or find a bush or pine tree and go prone under it. Zombies seem to have an allergyy to them and wander off if you lie under one for long enough. Getting into a vehicle is also useful, even getting on a bicyle as the latest version of dayz seems to have confused them. They get bored and go docile. Of course, they'll still chase you if you drive/ride off but they won't attack. Though I'm sure that will be fixed come the next update.

Map distance - last time I timed it, it took me roughly 4 to 5 minutes to run 500 metres. About 9 minutes for a kilometre. I'm sure some will disagree.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

I have been running crouched - and you are right - at times they do catch you. I noticed tho, that when crouched I make less noice and if I stay off road I make even less - so if I run thru tree and bushed to block their site I lose them. On the other had - I can be a mile a way from a zombie, in a room, behind a door, laying flat in a upper room - totaly quit and zombies will run quickly and somehow see me, hit thru a wall (such a bummer), walk thru or hit thru a door, and see and chase me to the upper room. So strange when all I have to do in woods is walk into a tree or bush usually an evergreen and just stand there and they will leave. And fast - In upper room of a tower and military zombies almost flew up the the outside stares and hit thru the wall (again such a bummer). As there seems to be no way to know exactly how low your blood is (specific number), they could take you out thru a wall or anywhere. I stopped laying down other than during moving to avoid getting hit thru something and not having a way to run quickly.

I am trying to learn to run backwards and shoot or hit with axe at same time.

Bicycle - I have seen a couple but have yet to be able to get on one. Not sure why and was not able to take the time to figure it out yet. Assumed I would get a menu to work with but it never happened.

I did saw tractor as I said above in other post but I don't quite know what it does. Does it show tractor on map?

Map distance - So 4 or 5 minutes to run about 1/2 a map square and shift click to set a way point other players can not see.

Thank you so much!!!!

[herrjon 478]

Great video!!! I have wanted to test my current rifle for distance but had no idea how to start. As far as marking a map - then apparently you can double left click or shift-right click. The double click will appear but the shift-right click will not.

As far as setting a specific point on the map you want to save - like where you hid you tents so you can easily get back without memory - I am guess mark an offline map.

Thank so much - extremely helpful!!!

I haven't tested the shift+right-click method, double-click has always worked for me. For remember where you put things, I just have a little notepad to and jot down coordinates of where I put my vehicles and stuff, and for fixed things like tents, I put the coords in the note section on DayZ commander, so I can easily find which servers that I play on have tents/vehicles and where they are on the map.

For getting on vehicles, you have to be next to it and use the scroll wheel. There should be an option that says "get on (vehicle) as driver". You do need to be at a certain location around the vehicle for most to get this, so just circle around it while spinning your wheel. If all you get is "save (vehicle)" at all points around it, that probably means it's totaled, but that should be pretty easy to tell. Most servers hide vehicles on the map, but some recruit severs may.

Edit: Also, that 9 min per kilometer is assuming flat land. If your path goes over hills or through towns (as it typically does), it could be a good deal longer.

Edited October 20, 2012 by (TMW)HerrJon

[Sula 1205]

HerrJon, they're two different things, of course, not to different ways to do same thing. :)

Selmack, when next to a bike, roll your mouse wheel and a menu will appear. You might need to run round the vehicle (it works with all vehicles) to get all the menu options but they will include: Get in, Save, Gear, Refuel, Repair, and others. To get off you do the same, roll mousewheel and choose Get out. Eject is dangerous as you can die if you use it while travelling at speed.

Remember, the map grids change size as you zoom in and out but those numbers work for me - for example: if I have 1100m to run, I know it will take very roughly ten minutes. :thumbsup:

[selmack 7]

Regarding the bike, I have not located one in a place where I have had time to figure out the issue yet. I assumed it would be like all vehicles but it did not work quickly so I ran.

As far as map grids and time, I have tried a couple times to set waypoints using shift - click and there has always been somone waiting for me. Coincidence? Maybe - but quite strange. By seeing the distance, though, and running or crouch running I realized you can go a great distance straight to the target place - very quickly. I did use the map today, but did stop using maypoints. Took longer but felt safer. Even then, most people are shooting on site - in the back.

Today - for example - I used advice and found a double barrol, hatchet, and pistol. Even with my horrible shooting, I could hit a zombie in doors once and win. On the other hand, I still don't want to get into a fire fight with a player so when I see one indoors (as today) or outdoors (yesterday) armed or not, I always get it in the back whether I try to talk to them or not. It seems to be the game on the direrent servers I am trying.

In the new start I did locate a tent - and still have it. What is a good stratagy for hiding a tent - then returning to it later over and over? Should I mark my offline map with the position? Can not mark an online map that I can see - and if I lose it, that would be waste of time anyway - any thoughts please?

Lastly, I am fortunate to be changing servers and spawning in different areas. I have seen a lot of the map in a short time - including two air bases. And by constant play I am noting churches in smaller cities I can enter, lakes - markets - and other building that are not discribed on map, and better safer ways to enter cities to avoid player on servers where they are trigger happy.

Other players should be very happy with me though as they are getting a lot of great gear and supplies when they shoot me in the back. Hoping I can locate a nice hiding place on a good server for the tents I find in future so I don't completely start over every time.

Let me add, I saw the strangest barn today - was about to walk in when I noticed two zombies - one walking - one crawling - standing half in and half out of back barn wall. As I get hit from outside constantly, I avoided the barn completely. I hate getting stuck on an upper barn floor with all zombies attacking. Even with axe or hatchet I can not attack quickly enough.

Thanks for assistance and advice!!!!

Edited October 20, 2012 by selmack