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When you and your friends develop to a certain point in this game, there's not much more left to do but to fight. Banditry can be fun, but not very rewarding when you don't need any gear they could possibly have. Your collection grows and grows, and next thing you know you have enough to outfit an entire army spread in camps all over the server. Whether you're at that point already or not, we'd love to have you against us. Drop by US 559 (forums at www.lowgaming.com/forums) if you're looking for somewhere to build your army. I'd love to find groups willing to battle it out. I envision giving each other attack slots (ie: "we're going to attack your base tomorrow between 6PM and 8PM") and fight it out for vehicles and any equipment you can carry back. Anyone interested in this sort of thing, drop by the server and its forums.. I long for competent enemies! :)

To everyone saying that "It's not a rule", I direct to a previous thread I made. Because that's pretty much your arguement, just because it's "Not a written rule" - Guess what, neither is spawning vehicles or harassing the hive. Is that just as justified, just because it isn't written down somewhere?

Perhaps instead of bitching about glitches, describe your system so they can fix it... "omg glitches every where, this game sux" "worst update ever" *not helpful* asus blah blah blah i7 2700k blah blah 16gb Ram VIDEO CARD *helpful* I have not recieved any issues with graphics glitches on the following system: Asus p6t deluxe v2 990x @ 4.41ghz 24 GB G skill 1600mhz Ram EVGA GTX 680 OC Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Launching with Day Z commander 10.7.2.4 & 3 Betas - 95393 95417 95312 In fact, everything has run mouch more sloothly on my end except for a few stuttering zombies here and there. Overall, less hackers, better sync, no lost items or vehicles, better gameplay, more challenging zombies - all positive. A FEW HOURS LATER - GLITCHES AT BEREZINO TENTS :( CONFIRMED ON BOTH ATI AND NVIDIA. LOGGING OUT AND BACK IN ON DIFFERENT SERVER RESOLVES ISSUE

Perhaps instead of bitching about glitches, describe your system so they can fix it... "omg glitches every where, this game sux" "worst update ever" not helpful asus blah blah blah i7 2700k blah blah 16gb Ram VIDEO CARD I have not recieved any issues with graphics glitches on the following system: Asus p6t deluxe v2 990x @ 4.41ghz 24 GB G skill 1600mhz Ram EVGA GTX 680 OC Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Launching with Day Z commander 10.7.2.4 & 3 Betas - 95393 95417 95312 In fact, everything has run mouch more sloothly on my end except for a few stuttering zombies here and there. Overall, less hackers, better sync, no lost items or vehicles, better gameplay, more challenging zombies - all positive.

You kind of said why some sort of goal isnt in the game atm. Its alpha, if you have seen any interviews with Rocket you would see some of the features he wants. Factions, player made structures/bases, etc. More will be added, but its still early days for DayZ. TBH, atm, you make your own goals. I enjoy doing this. By the sound of it you are not in a clan. Why not join a good one? Then you can go repairing vehicles, make camps, do raids on towns, etc. The game changes alot when your playing it with others(that you can trust).

It definitely needs something. Finding Vehicles or "better" weapons can be a challenge, but are ultimately pointless as neither changes anything.

So more vehicle spawns... BUT! Simpler repairs is possible for most vehicles (vehicles that can be operated), but the better the vehicle the more likely it'll have more severe damage and wear, so you gotta bring it into a better facility. Military stuff especially requires these facilities, so you will likely find more vehicles, just not 'great' vehicles. Oh when pushing vehicles that can't be run, don't push it down a hill when someone is in it... They'll get a 'ride of their life'.

vehicle hoarding by abusive hosts/clans is soooooooooooooooooooooooo aggravating, i wish rocket would ad more vehicles. or make new vehicles spawn every few hours. This is a zombie apocalypse , the one thing you should never have a hard time finding would be a car. even if they are ditched damaged and out of gas , the "destroyed vehicles" that litter the roads should be paired up with working vehicles ect. or make the parts way harder to find . there's a lot that needs to be fixed when it comes to "realism"

Dra6oOn has the truth of it. Sadly, it'd make things too difficult. Perhaps some cars can spawn with relatively easy things to repair (windglasses, no fuel, some flat tires) and these can be used to tow other vehicles to places where the neccesary tools to perform more throrough repairs?

I know it's off-topic but theRapist just got me thinking... Why aren't there any tanks? I mean... besides the fact that they'd be incredibly overpowered and pretty much ruin everyone's days (if you aren't allied with the tank's crew)... I mean... Sedans survive the zombie apocalypse but armored vehicles don't? *shrugs* Not to be a complete troll, I haven't seen a hacker yet, but it does seem like it's a big problem. Will the "killed by" thing work though? Can't they change their user name? Or do you ban IPs rather than names? Sorry, have no knowledge of server control.

Good, so you verify my story. :) They had three the first time I went to their site but when I went back to make my video and show the route to get there, they only had 2. Dude, I've had vehicles and lost vehicles on my own server. Life goes on. For people that have never played with vehicles here is their chance. I hold their hand and take them right to them. lol, ok.

Rocket is currently only working on how to exterminate hackers. As you say, recording XYZ data and warn admins/developers when player moves suspicious when spawning illegal vehicles every player near it gets kicked and vehicle removed (could be abused, still better than a rioting tank) same with illegal weapon insta kick

I would like everybody to know that on Sunday, July 29th, I will be hosting a community gathering. The event will begin, officially, at 4:59pm, however guests are more than welcome to arrive early and mingle amongst. Services will include food, beverages, medical supplies, and live entertainment. Vehicles and vehicular escorts are permitted and can be parked in the surrounding area, respective towards residential properties. If willing, an owner can offer the use of his vehicle in the live event. Any and all guests are welcome to join the event. However, there are requirements for the guests. All guests must have upon arrival , on there personal being, at least 1 military grade firearm with matching ammunition. These may include, but are not limited to, DMR's, M14's, and AK-47's. Guests must have the ability to target appendages on humanoid figures such as the legs from a distance. Accessories such as binoculars, frag grenades, smoke grenades, etc. are not only permitted, but are encouraged to be brought and used once the live event has started. Lastly, any donations of military grade equipment prior to the event are much appreciated and can be made by contacting me. Latecomers will be welcomed, but will likely miss the start of the fun. The event will be hosted on the rooftop of the Elektro Fire Station, nearby of the grocery store, the school, and the church. Don't miss the fun!

lol, ok. I run a server US 554 Hosted by Fat-Lasagna.com. I found these vehicles on US92 TX (Steamgamers). I can assure you this is not a trap. But act accordingly.

lesson of the day kids , don't play on lame clan servers who blatantly abuse the game ie lock out the server until they hoard all the vehicles and good gear.

Why not have this, vehicles all consists of actual chassis and parts that can be 'hauled' physically into garage or fire stations where they can be fixed up? Make a lot of 'damaged' and 'unoperatable' vehicles spawn more commonly (because in reality they would), but you can't repair them on the fly as you need tools to do so. This is so when people hoard vehicles off the map, they can't get it repaired there until they DRIVE it back to a working 'repair station' area. Adding vehicle degrading would be another idea to have them respawn better, as cars are metal and parts will rust and break over time, even when a player doesn't touch it. Fire stations and warehouses can be equipped with these: Firstly, to haul them you gotta make sure they have wheels, as wheels are the easiest part to installed and can be installed without complex tools, once they have wheels, you need 2+ people: 1 in driver seat to steer. 2-3 pushing in the back to move it. Basically re-using the 'drag body' concept, you can have players stand behind the car, and choose a option to 'push car', this add a speed buff into a 'undrivable car' and it moves it forward at a dynamic speed. Btw this is for repairing a wheeled vehicle, as helicopters and aircrafts would not be possible without bigger tools (or mobile repair centers). Reasoning for this is not only do people hoard it, it's rather easy to reinstall a engine without complex tools... Do you guys even understand how friggin heavy a car engine is? A person cannot lift it alone! Adding a 'lift or drag' mechanic to parts can be a interesting idea as you need to haul a engine BACK to the repair station to install it into a car (the game would do that systematically if the car is in the station and you have a engine near it). This means you may have to put the engine on top of something flat with wheels and you pull it into the station... A wagon of some sort for heavy loads? A car engine weighs a couple hundred pounds btw so imagine carrying a fat 300 pound man. A better toolbox, in the sense that it's not for basic fixing things but real overhaul and drastic tools for vehicles would be a good idea.

They had three cars. They hadn't rounded up all the cars on the server, they probably fought, defending and tried hard, on getting those vehicles paired' up and safely away so that they could use them. You wouldn't like it if someone was doing this to you either, so why do it to them? I know its just a game, but they must have put time and effort into getting that, and you're basically rubbing it in and being a swilling barrel of Piss.

As it is now, most vehicles are hoarded by admins/clans. Many people don't ever see a car, but imagine the following: That is because of the ArmA engine, i think Rocket told us we are nothing more than mere civilians. It is an Horror Survival SIMULATOR, it isn't any Arcade game. So DayZ tries to simulate real life as near as possible - and i am trying to contribute. I'd like to hear what in particular is so bad about my idea.

95417 and 10.7.2.4 Noticed some of the choppiness people have described, but in terms of overall gameplay a big improvement. I now think twice about unloading in towns. I've almost gotten killed twice by zombies for once. Fewer desyncs and lag problems. No negative affect on tents or vehicles either (no wipes and all inventory there). We even found a ghille and swapped it between a few players. Everything works great except the FPS issues, which were minimal and happened few and far in between. Great job guys! I suppose I should mention I haven't played in heavily populated areas like cherno and elektro. We did drive an ATV into Berenzino though to get some med supplies and encountered some hostiles. again, everything was looking pretty smooth.

Yep, a guy just destroyed my camp with 7 vehicles in it with a satchel charge, but Im lucky that I was the server admin and restarted and got the bastard banned, but yes, Its really out of control, 40% of DayZ players are cheaters, is almost becoming worse than Counter-Strike!!!

Again: thanks for all your support guys. I'm not the most active admin, but I do intend to keep these servers running through the DayZ alpha + beta stages. I'll try to keep you guys more up-to-date on when there will be server downtime. Just keep in mind that we're still in alpha; shit is going to break, hackers are gunna hack, and there's always plenty of dicks around that will try to ruin your fun. I know it sucks to get killed by a hacker, or to find all your shit/camp/vehicles missing, but that just goes with the territory in this game. The DayZ dev team is more active now with notifying server admins when there are updates, etc, so I'll try to get my server up to date asap, but sometimes I like to wait for a more stable release if one is particularly fucked.

If you make something to difficult, a lot of people won't bother with it and it will push a lot of would be buyers or active players away. having to find parts + keep it fueled + find the actual vehicle is enough as it is currently is to allow players to strive for it, and once finding it. Gain from it, if you made it harder the people would probably just start blowing up vehicles they didn't have the manuals for. To ensure someone else couldn't use the vehicle against them.

You're acting like a 15 year old high school girlfriend. Stop trying to look far into something that isn't there. No, hoarders don't effect you. Because you dont' have to play on their servers. If you do, you knowingly joined and that is on you. If someone who didn't know, joined their server. They can simply avoid them, they don't have to fight every person they see. If they do, they can kill them. If they die, then oh well this is Dayz. If you're effected by their actions, it is because you willing put yourself in a situation where you will be effected. Cheaters/hackers would be the only thing that effects you. Since I wasn't refering to them, you are once again looking to far into something. Locking a server for an hour doesn't make someone a hacker/cheater. The most they could "hoard" would be vehicles. You have the ability to go look for them. Go onto any Dayz server that has been around longer than a week and you'll see how hard it is to find a vehicle. The only way you'll get one is by hijacking it from someone else. So by them hoarding vehicles, nothing changes.

I NEED A CLAN Skype : Hydrilex Name : All Ts Specialty : Stealth, Assault, Navigation. Rule on Killing : Kill on sight if has a weapon! Vehicles can fly/drive : All vehicles! How long have been playing : 2 months. Skill Level : 1/10 : 9 Maturity Level : 1/10 : 8 Age : 13 Bio : Started playing alone, later got into a group of people for the fun.. then I played with the commanding serious people. (hated them). Later managed and started my own clan. I now am looking for a new clan full of people that enjoy the game, but can be serious in situations that require it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Screenshot : http://i47.tinypic.com/2h88h7q.jpg If I can join your clan add me on skype!

Just finished a load more playtime, 5 hrs ish (95389 & 1.7.2.4) Did some normal dayz shit got killed got kitted again and drove over most of the map This was messed up tonight Loading times longer than last night, lots longer Artifacts Still couldn't fill water bottles Animals couldnt retrieve food after gutting Got shot right through a truck?? how is that even possible Lag ffs Laaaaaaggg lots of it my m8 was down to 9 frames in the countryside normally 50-60 (we play on same server all the time) zombies i have no idea what they are doing anymore Some standing stock still, some ambling about even though you stand 2 feet in front of them, some spannering without even seeing us really bad desynching in vehicles ,worst we have ever known Players sliding sideways quite a lot Its a bit fucked up guys, hopefully someone is looking into it Its definatly getting worse.