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I thought a traditional sandbox game was more like Valves Garys Mod, where you can make you own things and your own mechanics... But I may be totally wrong there. EDIT: Correction. Just googled it and a sandbox game is: An OPEN WORLD is a type of video level design where a player can roam freely through a virtual world and is given considerable freedom in choosing how or when to approach objectives. OR Sometimes, open world gaming is included as a game mode in a game that is not mainly open world (a prominent example being the Forge mode in Halo 3 and Halo Reach). These modes usually grant you access to a set of existing components such as walls and doors, as well as gameplay objects like vehicles and weapons. - So guess I was kinda right....

The player "theruss0n" that typical plays on the server US 1054 utilizes the file alteration exploit to remove flora from the client and uses it to snipe players and vehicles from ranges not possible or in locations not possible to see through. EDIT: PROOF. I Found this video on his youtube channel. You can clearly see his character name listing him as theruss0n and off in the distance, you can see he HAS NO TREES

i also would like to know how this can be done. i've had issues where the vehicles i have saved spawn somewhere else on the map. i'm hoping a vehicle reset would resolve this issue!

Admins cannot see everything or do anything besides play, kick, restart and lock a server. Admins do not have an ability to see vehicles or players on a map. It does however sound like you were playing on a server running recruit settings, where big glowing lights show up to all players that give away locations of any player or vehicle at distance. The vehicles you found and hid would have been visible via a nice big glowing light on the screen of anyone within a km or so, even in the trees. The markers are visible in the same way the little glowing markers on the rabbits etc are visible, just much bigger. Most likely they were just found this way. Try playing on a server that has veteran settings.

Date&Time: 7/29/2012. 4 pm EST Server: Forgot (sorry :( ) Location: So i was running out of elektro, i had just resupplied with blood bags, morphine, etc. Was getting ready to meet up with some friends to start our DayZ (get it?). All of a sudden i hear a helicopter coming from my north so i immediately get down to the fucking ground and hope to god ghillie suits aren't too fucking obvious on the road. I hear the machine gunner start opening fire and i was like, FUCK i'm so dead....then i hear that distinct sound of an As50 that thing must have been almost 600m out because it sounded like a pop but regardless i could tell it was an as50, i look up and the chopper starts banking super hard. Whoever was sniping was one hell of a shot because he just 1 shot the pilot. I see about 4 ppl eject out and they all survive, then through my rangefinders i see about 6 or 7 ppl on the north side of skalisty island. 3 of them were skylined pretty hard so they were obvious the other 3 or 4 were somewhere down in the trees and at the range of around 600~700m unless you're kneeling or standing you can't really see ppl in deep grass. I switch my view to the survivors and they're already amscraying out of there, most of them were actually coming towards my location and i didn't want to move because if they saw a bush suddenly start moving they would probably KoS no questions asked. When they were around 40 meters out i called out to them saying friendly. I could tell they were super nervous because one of them got super fucking spastic and started spinning around. I dropped my primary which was an as50 as well and equipped my hatchet. I did the bendy dance so they would see me and slowly crab walked towards them so they would see i wasn't hostile. 6 minutes later i had learned the entire backstory of this event. I'll be giving you guys the TL;DR version. They had 2 clan members guarding their home base location, they were apparently going to trade with this other group. They were definitely survivors, apparently they had this location so they could help out beginners going down the coast. They were lucky enough to have a heli and they were using it to go to different locations in order to organize a trade. This was apparently a decoy trade, they said when they got to the location immediately their 2 home base guards shouted out on mumble that they had been killed by a group of 7 bandits. The survivors immediately went back to their camp on their heli (which was when i heard them coming back and ripping up the hillside). After hearing the story, i decided to help them out. Their 2 snipers had been killed, 1 at home base and the other was the pilot. However i was lucky enough to find that one of the surviving survivors (lol) was a spotter. Now I've been using the as50 for a week and a half straight i'm dead accurate up to 700m. However these guys were 800m~900m out and we were in the treeline on the mountain and DEFINITELY didn't want to go any closer. I zero'd in my as50 at 900m and switched out my m107 round for the 6 12.7x99 NATO as50 mags out of my backpack. (Why? you ask because the NATO rounds have less bullet drop). Just letting you guys know these rounds are fucking hard to find, i usually ONLY use them on vehicles because they WILL 1 shot any engine on ANY vehicle. However at 900m? i needed more accurate ammo. I told the spotter to look for their snipers, i told them i had seen at least 3 guys in ghillie suits skylined back when i was down the mountain, so obviously after having run up the mountain and being at a higher altitude then they were, it wouldn't be as easy to see them anymore. However i must admit the spotter was quite good, if anyone knows anything about the as50 its that the zoom on the scope is terrible. At 900m your center dot is probably going to be bigger than your target. Knowing that i sucked up my balls and got ready to blow some heads off. The spotter found the first sniper and told me the exact location, took me about 40 seconds to actually see him and i prepared my first shot. I called out "Firing" and pressed my LMB, anddddd it hit right above the fucking guy. I immediately re-aimed and looked for movement, for some unknown stroke of luck the fool didn't move. I called out "firing" again and shot the guy right in his ass. On the bottom left side of the screen i saw the kill text "DrMagicTape has been killed". The guys on mumble were like fuck yeah, 5 seconds later that hillside just exploded in activity all of them started running to the south side of the island, i couldn't kill anyone near the top because they went behind trees and i lost LoS. However the 2 guys near the bottom of the hill weren't so lucky. I killed one of them straight off, the second guy i actually didn't one shot. I shot the 2nd fella in the leg once then re-aimed and shot him in the fucking head. That was 3 down 4 to go, all of a sudden i see a god damn boat coming out the south side of the island and heading north, i had the spotter re-range them and he's like shit man thats like 1,100 meters. Once again i zero'd in my rifle. Now i have absolutely no idea where the engine block of a boat is, but i fucking hit it on my first shot. That thing started smoking and flaming like a mother fucker. Then the spotter yells out that he saw them swimming, then i hear them say they have some vehicles around the area and we could drive to a closer location so we could get some better shots, because if anyone has tried sniping at swimming targets. Its almost impossible to get sight of them and at 1000+ meters i wasn't going to hit them. We got in the vehicles and drove to Krutov Cap, i'll put up some pics of where we traveled. As everyone who has tried swimming, its super slow. By the time we got to Krutov Cap, they had only been able to swim to that small island in between skalisty and krutov. The nice fellas, on the survivor squad hooked me up with a m4a1 cco sd before we engaged them. The instant we saw them, one of the survivors next to me with a mk 48 opened fire and shot down 2 of them instantly. (the mk 48 is a fucking beast) We saw the other 2 start doing the bendy dance and dropping their primary weapons and backpacks. I saw one of them drop an as50 and told them that he was probably the one who killed their pilot, he was immediately killed the last guy started doing a fucking chicken dance and was running around in circles. At this point i was laughing so hard i couldn't aim. For around 5 minutes we just kept shooting at him and missing on purpose. we slowly made our way towards him, we sent 1 person swimming across at a time. When we were all on the island (i was last) i heard them talking on the voice comm saying shit like GG, that was epic, etc. After around 15 min of talking i was starting to make my way back. I heard gunfire behind me, i turned around and i saw the guy with the mk 48 shooting EVERYBODY. I was like holy shit this mother fucker is crazy, i went prone and re-joined their mumble. They were all shouting and cussing i asked them what happened and they said that guy had been a fresh member about 3 days old in the clan, he was a spy for the enemy team apparently. What he didn't know was that i was still in range and i had a clear shot on him. I asked them if they wanted me to kill the fucker, and they offered me everything i could ever dream of if i killed him. So i took a shot at 500m, and like i said i'm dead accurate with anything up to 700m so i took the shot, which was a headshot and dropped the piece of shit. Bottom left side of the screen i see a "JTriot85 has been killed". At the end of the day, i made out of that whole dispute with a mk 48, m4a1 cco sd, a lot of mags. And the satisfaction of an epic dayZ. 5 minutes later my friends hop on mumble and i regale them with my tale of glory, and they're cussing because they had missed it all. :D LATERS

From what I've erad on the forums to date, it seems there is a hack that will show u the locations of all tents vehicles and players, and also allow you to teleport to them. Which would explain a lot for you really. You have my sympathy, this kind of behaviour destroys any game it happens in.

From what i've been told they don't necessarily "have the power to know where your vehicles are" but the the information is in the server logs which they do have the power to search through, it's not like a hack where it shows where every player/vehicle is at on the map.

You can be as good as you want hiding your vehicles and tents. Doesn't change the fact that there are still people that spend their time hunting for them. But it does suck to loose all that. Recently lost an entire camp/ural/motorbike/ute/bicyclesx2 after having them for about 10 days also.

I check their original spawn points too and nothing. I doubt all 4 were found in just 5 hours. Add in the fact when I left the server, there were only 3 people, and less than that for the last 2-3 hours I was on before sleeping. I'm pretty good at hiding vehicles and i've managed to keep several vehicles for 10+ days. I usually lose vehicles from bugs or being shot at while in the open.

$20 says your vehicles where found. Admins cannot see vehicles. And when you see the map indicators you ONLY see it after interacting with the vehicle. Not before hand (from my experience) Also you check their spawn points? Did you mean you checked the locations you moved them too? And it could be possible that hackers can move the vehicles. A hacker today appeared behind me (Said he'd been following me and my friends) Offered us a ride to his camp, Off we went. It had over 10 vehicles in it, A crashed huey all sorts of crap. Vehicles that appeared like they had spawned on their spawn points and not been repaired. For example an atv that had full hull but needed everything else. We proceeded to destroy all vehicles to get them back to spawn points as i'm sure people lost them due to him doing this. Maybe the hackers can find camps and take the vehicles no idea how it works. But please, Don't blame the admins! Most of us do what we can to keep it fair.

What would be the purpose? It's post apocalypse we got to go on the assumption the vehicle has had its locks broken and hot wired already, would you really go to the lengths of re-securing the vehicle? Stealing other peoples stuff is the game, it's a dog eat dog world out there we,ve had literally over a hundred vehicles by now, it's easy come easy go.

Admins can see the location of everyone on the map as well as their items. I'm sure they can also find vehicles. All in all admin abuse is just as bad as hacking. The server admins usually highly favor their group by giving them information otherwise unattainable.

Those vehicles will re-appear and everything should be fine.

Not working today, so I stayed up very late last night and found 4 vehicles. Bicycle, UAZ, Tractor, ATV. They were all in their spawn points and required fixing up. I hid them all, far from each other and logged off to sleep. When I logged off, there were only 3 people on the server. 5 hours later, I log on to 40 people on the server and ALL VEHICLES GONE. I check their spawn points and they're not there. I can understand someone finding 1 vehicle, but 4? And they were very well hidden in bushes. The ATV, UAZ and bicycle would be impossible to see unless you literally ran into them. I'm wondering if there's a hack that shows current locations of vehicles or if admins have a way to see also. It's just way too fishy to have all 4 gone in just 5 hours. The server also restarted 1-2 times when I was gone. The server has the option to see yourself and anything near you on map. yourself and vehicles (if you're within about 40m) show up blue dots, and zeds/players show up yellow dots. I'm thinking someone had a hack that allows all dots on the map to be shown.

Thanks. We found a couple vehicles, when the server finally connects back to the hive, will we still have those vehicles or will they disappear?

You should be able to find locks in industrial locations, but they're a bit rare, not too rare. You should be able to repair your car's locks, allowing you to lock the car on the way out with your Middle Mouse button scroll wheel. In order to get inside it again, you should need the key, or several lockpicks to attempt to break the lock. Eh?

If the vehicles can stay safely outside the map for whole 24 hours, then its ridicilously too much. 1 hour max should be enough for anybody even if they flew a chopper and did some circles that took them outside the map for a while.

Hoarding Vehicles outside Map is cheating Check out my form https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=true&formkey=dFZCbVFGNWdtSzJ5bzdRM1VpZU5JeHc6MQ

you can use NVGs while flying/riding in all vehicles

If you restart the server and nothing is there where you left it, restart the server again.. sometimes tent locations and vehicles don't load off the HIVE.

Cheaters? That's not the problem, the problem is hoarders gathering up tens of vehicles in debug desert. Btw, I really support this idea. There could also be like a feature that made it impossible to drive a vehicle outside the map.

Just out of curiosity, where does the Huey spawn if the server restarts or crashes during mid flight? Also same question with other vehicles

On our servers the forests on the Western and Northern edges of the map are common areas to store vehicles. Of course every now and then we find vehicles hidden in small forests in the middle of the map, but at least bigger vehicles (Ural, V3S, buses) tend to find their way to the thick forests in the edges. Running with a helicopter and looking down is kinda fun since most of the vehicles show up like sore thumbs. Finding helicopters on foot would be easy, since they have to be on a clearing with flat ground so they don't ski down the hill :-)

Any tips on where people usually hide their vehicles? We got our chopper stolen the day after we repaired it, which already sucks balls. On top of that we're having an extremely hard time finding any vehicles whatsoever on our server. I already did a tour of the outside of the map on our bike, but no luck there neither. You can PM me if you want.

So hey. I'm looking to join up with a group of guys/gals. Preferably on a US server, and preferably a group that has some kind of base /access to vehicles. Hopefully someplace safe I can throw up a tent and keep my better gear at, and maybe a bicycle so I can do what I do best that much faster. I come to you kitted out, so you won't have to take me on babby's first stary/NWAF run or anything like that. Food, drinks, weapons and ammo, I'm ready to roll. My specialty, I guess you could say, is finding heli crash sites during the night, so I can provide map coords and overwatch on the site until a pickup team can arrive to scav it. I prefer to operate during the (server) night, at least until I can find a safe/defended place to pitch a tent and store my loots. After that I can run day/night as needed. I don't have any major problems with shooting other survivors if they shoot first or whatever, but prefer to avoid getting in all-out gunfights unless it's absolutely necessary. I will shoot first, though, if somebody is being an ass and sniping noobies in cherno/electro or something like that. That's just not nice, and they deserve every set of broken legs and respawns I can give them. ~Edit~ Oh yeah, I guess it's important to note that I do have a mic/teamspeak and I'm over 18.